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Mishka
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a good MMA stack would be:
250mg test
400mg dhb
1g masteron
30mg Cadarine
40mg Rad 140
4iu HGH
250mg test
400mg dhb
1g masteron
30mg Cadarine
40mg Rad 140
4iu HGH
UncleBuns
Member
What? Where did you come up with this? Far too high dosages. Cardarine is controversial, personally I wouldn't take it. He said he DOES NOT want to gain size.
OP, I'm not into combat sports but don't follow this. Likely something like 150 - 300 test, 2 - 300 mast, primo, eq, or nand depending on your preference, and 3 - 4 IU GH is good. Maybe an oral like var during a training period. There are some MMA and BJJ guys here with lots of experience. I'd listen to them. Individual response to each compound varies.
JC Grifter
Member
Tbol. Mild strength gain with increased endurance. I only used it once, but damn I wanted to train forever. I had to pull myself away from the gym.
Mishka
Member
an MMA fighter told me that this is his exact stack.
more moderate and endurance / regeneration focused stack could be:
250 mg test
10-20 mcg clen per day
4 IU GH
20 mg GW-501516
15 mg SR9009
Seems a little excessive for what I need
I agree with you on the cardarine, high cancer risk is not something I want to fuck with.
I'll definitely be running a test base of 150-300 or so.
What's the reasoning behind running mast, primo, eq or and?
What would be better for training period var or tbol?
Definitely thinking about running tbol pre-training
How long is he running clen for?
Cardarine is a bit too stretchy for me to run, cancer risk seems to be high.
BlazinDayz
New Member
Best Stack for Strength and Endurance imo.
300mg Test
300mg EQ
100 NPP
50mg TBol
20mg Cardarine
300mg Test
300mg EQ
100 NPP
50mg TBol
20mg Cardarine
This stack would be way too high dose for the endurance part. I mean This is a 1g+/week cycle man...for endurance? Just the pump from this makes almost impossible to do any sort of indurance work BJJ practicioners need. Maybe there are outliers. You will gain a ton of strength from this tho compared to TRT.
I assume you don't get tested.I assume you are 25+.Otherwise forget these.
1st of all, 150-170mg of Test as TRT. Thats best for endurance and can be used for decades. Sometimes high intensity training smashes test levels because of overtraining. Other factor is you can easily get head traumas which could tank natural test levels for a while. Or got your balls kneed or kicked by accident. You get the point: TRT will give you an almost constant level of test in a sport where you have lot of uncertainity.
If endurance is important and I assume you are already on TRT.
12-14 weeks. Cardarine for max 5 weeks.
150g test
200g EQ
100 NPP
20mg Tbol
20mg Cardarine
2IU GH
its still 600mg of steroids weekly but gh will be a bit synergestic even at low doses. Also makes soft tissues more resilient and thats one of the most important part in BJJ and wrestling: staying in the game without injuries.
Edit: also you don't want to compete with this much gear.So its off competition cycle.
for competition something like. You ended this cycle 6 weeks before competition except GH. Then you hop on.
-TRT test
-maybe bit of halo but only couple days before or even at fight night. Just test it out how you react, don't experiment on your competition.
- cardarine on fight week 30mg, and on fight night 50mg.
- lower the dose of HGH to 1 IU 1 week before comp. Don't lower to 0 because you might not recover your natural production in a week. But also don't want to have any water retention so thats why not even 2 is needed.
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Keep it simple. Something like:
200mg Test
200mg Nand
200mg Bold
2-4iu GH, CTS permitting
Hell, you can do half of that and still benefit. Cardarine in and out around competitions is great, individual risk tolerance permitting. Oral AAS are probably not worth touching.
But basically anything resembling this - low doses, test/bold/nand, little to no orals, GH/peptides are great. Goal is better recovery for more mat time.
200mg Test
200mg Nand
200mg Bold
2-4iu GH, CTS permitting
Hell, you can do half of that and still benefit. Cardarine in and out around competitions is great, individual risk tolerance permitting. Oral AAS are probably not worth touching.
But basically anything resembling this - low doses, test/bold/nand, little to no orals, GH/peptides are great. Goal is better recovery for more mat time.
Pretty much what Gracie said.
Test, EQ and HGH. Used Tbol for the first time this year and it was a nice addition. Not as good as anavar but not getting cramps were a plus.
Test, EQ and HGH. Used Tbol for the first time this year and it was a nice addition. Not as good as anavar but not getting cramps were a plus.
lukiss96
Member
Most orals give bad pumps. I think you don't want your calves/shins pumped up while fighting...
if you play in the gi its the forearm pumps that are just merciless on most orals
Stop saying this bs, with this cycle your estrogen is tanked like nothing else, and you cant do shit, you will break your bones at the first submission.
Dont listen to this random on a random forum about cycle for fighting
zangetsu13
New Member
Depends entirely if you're looking for a cycle or something more year round.
Year round:
150mg test
125mg deca, come off every 3 months for 2, deca brain is a real thing. Or cycle npp.
2-4 iu hgh p/d, 6 months on then switch to secretagogues and the likes for few months.
Bpc & tb500 when injuries arise.
More of a big show coming up and need added strength and endurance, say a 12 week camp.
200/250mg test
500mg primo for endurance and strength or 600 EQ for the endurance
125mg deca/ npp
2 -4 iu hgh
20mg halo for 2 weeks at the end
50mg dbol on hand if you're not a high aromatiser and prone to crashed e2 from primo or EQ.
No hardening specific drugs like mast or Winnie ideally. Just not a fun time in a sport about joint manipulation. Mast is ok at low doses if you're a high aromatiser and add deca and hgh.
Year round:
150mg test
125mg deca, come off every 3 months for 2, deca brain is a real thing. Or cycle npp.
2-4 iu hgh p/d, 6 months on then switch to secretagogues and the likes for few months.
Bpc & tb500 when injuries arise.
More of a big show coming up and need added strength and endurance, say a 12 week camp.
200/250mg test
500mg primo for endurance and strength or 600 EQ for the endurance
125mg deca/ npp
2 -4 iu hgh
20mg halo for 2 weeks at the end
50mg dbol on hand if you're not a high aromatiser and prone to crashed e2 from primo or EQ.
No hardening specific drugs like mast or Winnie ideally. Just not a fun time in a sport about joint manipulation. Mast is ok at low doses if you're a high aromatiser and add deca and hgh.
zangetsu13
New Member
Couple issues with this dude.
1. That's not how growth works if you take a shot in the morning you'll produce your natural pulse when you go to sleep that night.
2. EQ at that dose has no benefit and would be better replaced by primo.
3. Being someone who does BB cycles and trains bjj any oral will give him a pump which will negatively effect his ability to compete or roll. Jiu-jitsu be it gi or no gi involves an incredible amount of pushing, pulling and static strength.
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