Morning vs Night HGH pin

It is incorrect to say that somatotropin and insulin act on the same receptor.
You are right, I said it wrong. It's not that they "compete". They can "cross-react".

The simultaneous presence of insulin and (exogenous) somatotropin does not reduce the effect of either hormone at their respective receptors.
HGH impairs glucose handling and blocks insulin signaling in muscle tissue reducing glucose uptake.

If the primary goal is maximal muscle growth, the combination of somatotropin and insulin can be useful.
Muscle tissue can still be anabolic in the presence of GH and insulin because gh only impairs glucose handling. Amino acid uptake is not affected.
 
Many seem to say/think nighttime is best for preserving insulin sensitivity…but who the f knows at this point.
 
I get where you’re coming from and I’m not disagreeing with you. I just didn’t notice anything truly dramatic from GH personally, and that’s coming from someone who is actually very responsive to it. At 2iu my IGF was around 455, and at 4iu it went up to 760+, so it’s definitely doing something on paper.

Maybe it’s just a matter of time. My first run was about 8 months, then I took a 3 month break and now I’m back on it again. If you’re seeing that kind of transformation from GH, honestly that’s awesome.
Maybe its cuz you only ran 4iu. Ive gone up to 10iu and im on 10iu right now and it really makes a difference then. Just my overall look is completely different, very full muscles, also allows me to be able to eat some junk and not get fat. Keeps everything nice and tight.
 
Maybe its cuz you only ran 4iu. Ive gone up to 10iu and im on 10iu right now and it really makes a difference then. Just my overall look is completely different, very full muscles, also allows me to be able to eat some junk and not get fat. Keeps everything nice and tight.
I honestly can’t even imagine what 10iu would do to me. My IGF doesn’t seem to scale linearly with dose, so if I’m already hitting around 760 on just 4iu, then 10iu would probably push me north of 1000 real quick. At that point I’m not sure if I’d just look fuller… or start growing bonus features.

My nose is already big enough that when I walk into a room people notice it first, and only then do I show up. So I’m kind of weighing the risk vs reward here, especially being a lightweight.

That said, I get what you’re saying. The fullness and the food flexibility sound tempting. I’m just not sure I’m ready to unlock the acromegaly DLC yet.
 
I honestly can’t even imagine what 10iu would do to me. My IGF doesn’t seem to scale linearly with dose, so if I’m already hitting around 760 on just 4iu, then 10iu would probably push me north of 1000 real quick. At that point I’m not sure if I’d just look fuller… or start growing bonus features.

My nose is already big enough that when I walk into a room people notice it first, and only then do I show up. So I’m kind of weighing the risk vs reward here, especially being a lightweight.

That said, I get what you’re saying. The fullness and the food flexibility sound tempting. I’m just not sure I’m ready to unlock the acromegaly DLC yet.
Beware!
 

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Yeah, honestly I look way more like your gorilla avatar and I mean visually, not strength-wise. As for acromegaly, that’s more like something you earn after living at stupid-high IGF levels for a year or more, and even then it’s not guaranteed. One blood test doesn’t magically turn you into Shrek overnight.
 
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