Caffeine sleeping Killer

[Zazu90]

Hi Guys



After Work at 5pm i take my pre Workout with caffeine. Without Caffeine i couldn't train effektiv, because i am very fatigue from Work(construction worker). So my Problem ist that caffeine at this time is killing my sleep. I have Problems to Fall asleep. What supps can i take to eliminate the Sleepingproblems of caffeine?

 

[Bandern]

You don’t need caffeine to have an effective workout. I get it. I too work a physical job and work out in the evening. Life improved when I stopped using stims in the evening.

You can try to supplement it away with L-theanine or whatever other people recommend but most likely your sleep quality will still be ass and you’ll be caught in a cycle of poor sleep and fatigue.

 

[AlexDavis43]

Hi Guys



After Work at 5pm i take my pre Workout with caffeine. Without Caffeine i couldn't train effektiv, because i am very fatigue from Work(construction worker). So my Problem ist that caffeine at this time is killing my sleep. I have Problems to Fall asleep. What supps can i take to eliminate the Sleepingproblems of caffeine?

In short, no, caffeine is a sleep wrecker and sleeping pills are shit

You could try re-structuring your workout days: maybe train Tuesday & Thursday, but on the weekends train earlier so caffeine doesn't ruin sleep quality; this way, only two bad nights per week

If that's not enough volume for you, double up on the weekends

[just spit-balling]

 

[wp_375]

"After Work at 5pm i take my pre Workout with caffeine."

Think I found your problem, dawg. You don't need caffeine to have a decent workout, you've just convinced yourself in your head you do. Caffeine fucks your sleep long after the nice stimulating effects are gone.

 

[dontyellmepls]

I only take caffeines for aerobic exercise because the exhaustion from the workout exceeds caffeine jitters. The max dose I did without being a zombie afterward was 400mg.

Why dont you just sleep and hour and then go to workout?

 

[Zazu90]

"After Work at 5pm i take my pre Workout with caffeine."

Think I found your problem, dawg. You don't need caffeine to have a decent workout, you've just convinced yourself in your head you do. Caffeine fucks your sleep long after the nice stimulating effects are gone.

I try to train without, but i have Not enough energy and havent the Progress, with Caffeine. I really wondered that 200mg have so strong effects to me that i couldn't sleep as well.

 

[Zazu90]

I only take caffeines for aerobic exercise because the exhaustion from the workout exceeds caffeine jitters. The max dose I did without being a zombie afterward was 400mg.

Why dont you just sleep and hour and then go to workout?

I tried it, but the Problem ist, when i sleep an hour, than i more fatigue as before sleeping. I tried 2 hours, this makes to fall asleep Bad.

At the Moment i believe maybe i Had to lift before work

 

[eery]

Maybe something with a shorter halflife, different mechanism of action? theacrine, albuterol, nicotine, dmaa..

 

[dontyellmepls]

Or really strong dark chocolate?

I remember trying to make my own super dark chocolate at home with allulose. The texture was all fucked up because I am neither a seasoned chocolatier nor owned a melanger, but I ate it anyways when I was writing my masters thesis. I managed to write 86 pages and skipped sleeping for three days straight without any jitters. Theobromine is great

 

[AlexDavis43]

At the Moment i believe maybe i Had to lift before work

Wait, that's an option?!

Yes definitely do that

 

[dontyellmepls]

Wait, that's an option?!

Yes definitely do that

Wont he be tired at work and risk himself then?

 

[trtchin]

Can try caffine free pre workout. It may mentally put you in the right mindframe and you will still get a good pump.

 

[Itsthejuice]

I had a similar issue. I work late and over 4 days, so my days are long. So I work out before work. Now, I need caffeine throughout the day, but, like you, my workout isn't as good without.

What I did: I take half a scoop of pre-workout (60mg caffeine), add a scoop of caffeine free pre-workout and add a small scoop of beta-alanine and citrulline. The little bit of caffeine goes far, but doesn't give me a crashed feeling and I can space the rest of my caffeine out throughout the day.

I am lucky in that I can slam two energy drinks before bed and sleep soundly and easily.

Or start going before work.

 

[dontyellmepls]

try theobromine

 

[AlexDavis43]

try theobromine

basically the same as just using less caffeine

 

[hexagonal]

Need caffeine to lift -> have shit sleep quality -> get tired the next day -> need caffeine to lift. It's a self-reinforcing cycle.

Break that cycle and see how things go from there.