Qingdao Sigma Chemical Co., Ltd (International, US, EU, Canada and Australia domestic

if you are confused.

im disliking you for being a waste of a human being.

qsc owes me and bananajoe product and we are tortured with following up on this thread and having to read your messages.
I am still trying to make sense of all this, but I *think*, and I admit this at least a bit of speculation, that he is sticking it up for the little guy, that lost money when ordering from Tracy. While also speaking out against those that "got their stuff at the cost of other members" because "that's some real honorable shit there", and making clear, that only Millard can take away his right to say whatever he deems worth saying.
He also doesn't seem to believe that Tracy will make good on the outstanding orders of us, all the other members.
I am still not sure where that keeps *us* in that flowchart he keeps talking about, but apparently were at the wrong end of it. Certainly you, but apparently also me.

All in all this seems to be a like a rather complex situation, that is likely why me, and perhaps also others, have hard time following and picking up all the right nuances of this.
 
I am still trying to make sense of all this, but I *think*, and I admit this at least a bit of speculation, that he is sticking it up for the little guy, that lost money when ordering from Tracy. While also speaking out against those that "got their stuff at the cost of other members" because "that's some real honorable shit there", and making clear, that only Millard can take away his right to say whatever he deems worth saying.
He also doesn't seem to believe that Tracy will make good on the outstanding orders of us, all the other members.
I am still not sure where that keeps *us* in that flowchart he keeps talking about, but apparently were at the wrong end of it. Certainly you, but apparently also me.

All in all this seems to be a like a rather complex situation, that is likely why me, and perhaps also others, have hard time following and picking up all the right nuances of this.
Not a bad breakdown. I feel a few points are incorrect but overall, pretty well done.
 
Thanks, I do appreciate it. :)
Where do you feel like my overall assessment was incorrect, and what would you change or add to my breakdown?

The only real issue I take is the talking points/flowchart comment. Your exact words were:

"How much have you lost on those orders?" and "If you can't take that loss, which your two quite visceral posts seem to indicate, maybe you should find yourself another hobby."

These all appear to be comments to shut me up and as you've correctly stated in the breakdown of my words, it would take Millard or a mod to do that.

Outside of your breakdown. The argument that we shouldn't muddy up this thread because QSC really might start refunding people and you or dinfar may miss it is BS. If QSC really did that, it would be everywhere.

As for Dinfar, I chuckle because he keeps downvoting my posts like it changes my life in anyway. Then again, maybe I'm so fragile that a downvote on an internet forum ruins my day. Who knows?

Good talk!

Adding: I don't have any ill will or hate for you or dinfar. I try to address those that have replied to my posts. That's how you and I started our interaction at post #83,637.
 
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Imma be honest. As someone who fully kept faith of Tracey's return up until they came back. I'm now more convinced than ever he is selling his last stock and going to disappear forever. Other factories are already resuming production and he says no eta in sight. He can't even get peptides. Literally everyone has peptides. Do I think he is a scammer? No. But I do think he wants to leave the door open to potential future business one day while on his way out. He's not broke, ppl here posted the crypto transactions. He just wants to squeeze every last dollar before leaving on "good terms" with the community. JM2C
 
Imma be honest. As someone who fully kept faith of Tracey's return up until they came back. I'm now more convinced than ever he is selling his last stock and going to disappear forever. Other factories are already resuming production and he says no eta in sight. He can't even get peptides. Literally everyone has peptides. Do I think he is a scammer? No. But I do think he wants to leave the door open to potential future business one day while on his way out. He's not broke, ppl here posted the crypto transactions. He just wants to squeeze every last dollar before leaving on "good terms" with the community. JM2C
leave on good terms ?
 
Imma be honest. As someone who fully kept faith of Tracey's return up until they came back. I'm now more convinced than ever he is selling his last stock and going to disappear forever. Other factories are already resuming production and he says no eta in sight. He can't even get peptides. Literally everyone has peptides. Do I think he is a scammer? No. But I do think he wants to leave the door open to potential future business one day while on his way out. He's not broke, ppl here posted the crypto transactions. He just wants to squeeze every last dollar before leaving on "good terms" with the community. JM2C
QSC was a different beast. On Google scholar they are noted as the supplier for heaps of scientific studies:

 
The only real issue I take is the talking points/flowchart comment. Your exact words were:

"How much have you lost on those orders?" and "If you can't take that loss, which your two quite visceral posts seem to indicate, maybe you should find yourself another hobby."

These all appear to be comments to shut me up and as you've correctly stated in the breakdown of my words, it would take Millard or a mod to do that.

Outside of your breakdown. The argument that we shouldn't muddy up this thread because QSC really might start refunding people and you or dinfar may miss it is BS. If QSC really did that, it would be everywhere.

As for Dinfar, I chuckle because he keeps downvoting my posts like it changes my life in anyway. Then again, maybe I'm so fragile that a downvote on an internet forum ruins my day. Who knows?

Good talk!

Adding: I don't have any ill will or hate for you or dinfar. I try to address those that have replied to my posts. That's how you and I started our interaction at post #83,637.
While I must stress that my comment was not to shut you up, it was more meant as serious advice in case you can't afford to take the L on an anabolics order from China. Personally I always add 30% to that price in my head, as surcharge for when things go wrong and I have to get a replacement. So my far my losses thankfully weren't 30% of my total orders, but I think that is a good metric to assess how much I should be spending.

I didn't make the argument that me or @dinfar1337 would miss a reship or refund. That was him alone.

Regarding your overall relationship with @dinfar1337 , it seems like the two of you have something to work out with each other. I would offer myself as a mediator for this, but I feel like I am too close to the subject, so it might not work out for you guys.

Regarding my first post, I just posed a simple question, and then an observation. I still feel like your reaction, towards me afterwards, was unnecessarily hostile.

But I am not one who holds grudges over the internet. I feel like we had a productive discussion at the end! :)
 
While I must stress that my comment was not to shut you up, it was more meant as serious advice in case you can't afford to take the L on an anabolics order from China. Personally I always add 30% to that price in my head, as surcharge for when things go wrong and I have to get a replacement. So my far my losses thankfully weren't 30% of my total orders, but I think that is a good metric to assess how much I should be spending.

I didn't make the argument that me or @dinfar1337 would miss a reship or refund. That was him alone.

Regarding your overall relationship with @dinfar1337 , it seems like the two of you have something to work out with each other. I would offer myself as a mediator for this, but I feel like I am too close to the subject, so it might not work out for you guys.

Regarding my first post, I just posed a simple question, and then an observation. I still feel like your reaction, towards me afterwards, was unnecessarily hostile.

But I am not one who holds grudges over the internet. I feel like we had a productive discussion at the end! :)

You don't need to do anything. It's the internet. Me and Dinfar can keep being dicks to each other, truthfully, no big deal.

No grudges held and the rest of it is water under the troll bridge :)
 
Meso in a nutshell: I was the original post that people were angry with, I walk away and there are 3 pages of random arguments.

I will add, I can respect your point. You want him to pay people back now and not wait. If this was anything else besides selling drugs online, I would 100% agree. Since it's drugs online, I will 95% agree with you. He is an international drug dealer who was raided and lost a bunch. Should he just give away all the domestic stock and then give up and die? Maybe? But Tracy has always had weird policies. I can still be hopeful that Tracy's weirdness will result in him coming back.

And if I am wrong. That would suck for everyone and I will hold a pitchfork with you.
 
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