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The Answ3r said:
It’s been about 6 days without GH since I left for vacation and I’m already 2 lbs lighter, probably just extra water dropping off. My head even feels lighter somehow, hard to explain. Sleep is surprisingly better, heart rate is down, and so far I don’t feel any crash at all… not sure if I ever will. Thinking I might take a full month off and then jump back on, maybe. Who knew taking a break could feel this good… almost suspicious.
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Funny you mention that. I've been reading that rHGH increases spinal fluid volume; and in some people, can interfere with drainage (almost CTS of sorts in the skull). This can lead to intracranial pressure increase.

It's rare at <2iu clinical doses. but obviously the higher you go. the bigger the risk if you're predisposed to it. Among other things can cause blindness if it isn't treated quickly.
 
Alvinq said:
Here's another data point.
Late 30's.

Pre TRT:
8/4/22 - 189

TRT only:
11/24/23 - 295
11/30/24 - 264
6/24/25 - 294

There were cycles in between those dates but the only other compounds were primo, mast, or anavar. All blood work was taken 8-12 weeks after returning to my normal TRT dose of 180mg a week.
Never used gh but was planning on it. I have 2 kits of 24iu sitting in my fridge that I was itching to start but I guess I should hold off after my last results were high too.
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Ok well I didn't hold off starting GH because it was just looking at me every time I opened the fridge. I mean how could I say no?

On 4iu of GH from SSA my IGF is 457. This is their 24iu kits if that matters to anyone.
I started at 2.5iu and worked up to 4iu quickly because I could handle the sides ok.
Sleep was instantly amazing on 2.5 and now seems harder to fall asleep and more disturbed on 4.
I'll have to drop back down and work my way back up properly to see if my sleep is still affected.
 
Ateam2023 said:
i was wondering what " taking a break" from hgh would do or "feel like"? Anyone else with experience "coming off hgh" for a little while can please let us know your experience, Tia,,
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It’s my first time running GH so I’m just as curious. Hard to say much after such a short break but maybe IGF doesn’t drop off that fast, especially since mine was pushing close to 800. The funny part is I actually feel better every day without it, drier and lighter, even sleep is nicer. Too early to draw any big conclusions but once I hop back on 2 to 4iu I’ll see what changes and report back.
 
Ghoul said:
Funny you mention that. I've been reading that rHGH increases spinal fluid volume; and in some people, can interfere with drainage (almost CTS of sorts in the skull). This can lead to intracranial pressure increase.

It's rare at <2iu clinical doses. but obviously the higher you go. the bigger the risk if you're predisposed to it. Among other things can cause blindness if it isn't treated quickly.
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Thanks for the info. I actually ran into some pressure issues when I pushed up to 4iu, and it got especially noticeable while I was on Test, EQ, and Mast E. I always pointed the finger at EQ, but maybe I was blaming the wrong guy. This time I’ll start a cycle without GH and track it properly to see if the culprit is EQ or GH. Either way, at least I’ll know who’s guilty before I throw them under the bus again.
 
Alvinq said:
Ok well I didn't hold off starting GH because it was just looking at me every time I opened the fridge. I mean how could I say no?

On 4iu of GH from SSA my IGF is 457. This is their 24iu kits if that matters to anyone.
I started at 2.5iu and worked up to 4iu quickly because I could handle the sides ok.
Sleep was instantly amazing on 2.5 and now seems harder to fall asleep and more disturbed on 4.
I'll have to drop back down and work my way back up properly to see if my sleep is still affected.
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How quickly did you work up?

About to add in GH first time, looking to run 6-8IU/day

Want to avoid sides but also want to get to 6 at least as fast as possible
 
blessed said:
How quickly did you work up?

About to add in GH first time, looking to run 6-8IU/day

Want to avoid sides but also want to get to 6 at least as fast as possible
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Started 7/3 at 2iu.
7/18 moved to 2.5iu.
7/27 moved to 3iu.
7/31 moved to 3.5iu.
8/2 moved to 4iu.

So I accelerated really quickly from 3iu up.
Random note: I started skipping injections on Saturday nights so I would only do it 6 days a week. I felt that it helped with some early carpal tunnel feelings I had. They seemed to go away shortly after or my body adjusted at that time.

I typically track everything on cycle but for some reason I haven't been tracking sleep quality so I can't say 100% at what point the sleep flipped for me. I just know that the first week felt amazing and so easy to sleep. I thought I finally found a fix for my sleep issues.
 
Alvinq said:
Correct. Sleep became broken and hard to fall back asleep each time I woke up. I'm going to try out 2iu again for a little before I decide what I'm going to do.
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i had to switch to a.m. injections because nightl6 bolus really affected my sleep, even more than it already is
 
The Answ3r said:
It’s my first time running GH so I’m just as curious. Hard to say much after such a short break but maybe IGF doesn’t drop off that fast, especially since mine was pushing close to 800. The funny part is I actually feel better every day without it, drier and lighter, even sleep is nicer. Too early to draw any big conclusions but once I hop back on 2 to 4iu I’ll see what changes and report back.
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800 with how many IU? With pharma or generic? And how was your baseline igf-1?
 
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Ateam2023 said:
i had to switch to a.m. injections because nightl6 bolus really affected my sleep, even more than it already is
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I only tried a.m. once and it was on a day I was traveling before a flight. I did the rest of a vial I had which was like 4.5ish iu at around 6am. I felt fine for a few hours but by like 11am I was lethargic and it stayed that way the rest of the day.
I didn't sleep much and I flew that day so it could easily have been those things. Maybe I'll give a.m. another shot.
 
The Answ3r said:
It’s my first time running GH so I’m just as curious. Hard to say much after such a short break but maybe IGF doesn’t drop off that fast, especially since mine was pushing close to 800. The funny part is I actually feel better every day without it, drier and lighter, even sleep is nicer. Too early to draw any big conclusions but once I hop back on 2 to 4iu I’ll see what changes and report back.
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ShutUpAndPump said:
800 with how many IU? With pharma or generic? And how was your baseline igf-1?
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Answ3r has one of the highest IGF1 responses of all Meso users

Measurement error? confirmed by testing with different labs? Or just freakish
 
ShutUpAndPump said:
800 with how many IU? With pharma or generic? And how was your baseline igf-1?
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Generic HGH at 4iu, I’ve written about it before. I’ll drop my own quote from another thread:
The Answ3r said:
It was always around 100 naturally. Right before starting GH on cycle, I checked and it was 185.

Started with 2iu, then bumped to 3.2iu and it climbed to 425.

A little over a month ago I increased to 4iu, and my latest labs came back at 762.
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