Test and deca without mast/primo?

[LeeroyMatinta]

Did anyone run test and deca/npp without mast/primo?

I see some people saying that the side effects are too bad if not paired with either mast or primo.

 

[Nidus]

Did anyone run test and deca/npp without mast/primo?

I see some people saying that the side effects are too bad if not paired with either mast or primo.

Test + Deca and Proviron works very good. Oral DHT, makes you feel good, no liver or lipid issues from Proviron either.

 

[lukiss96]

Good idea to avoid what's not necessary.

 

[xrayphoton13]

Did anyone run test and deca/npp without mast/primo?

I see some people saying that the side effects are too bad if not paired with either mast or primo.

I'm doing it now but just trt test plus 100mg/week deca from my doc. No side effects but doses are low. I do it for my right knee. It feels so much better and I look a little fuller too as a bonus.

I've run low test (50mg) and very high deca (1.2g) before and didn't have gyno or prolactin sides but it does effect my mind. It just changes the way I feel. I'm very relaxed, tired, and lazy. But full as a house and strength goes up every week. I don't get the sides like paranoia or anxiety but feeling different from normal just isn't for me anymore. It's like I'm permanently on antidepressants or something. I'm very mellow and relaxed and just don't want to move. I think it's a great muscle builder for sure but in the future I'll just do high test and low to mid deca and hopefully keep that energy I have from test solo. I did add masteron at 400mg to that cycle to see if I would notice a difference in my mind and I did not. The deca dominated over everything

Just remember that we are all different. I spent weeks to months reading the hundreds of user reviews over on the steroids Reddit of different compounds. My experience on deca/NPP and tren has been drastically different than all the reviews I've read. I've never had roid rage or jealousy issues or thought my wife is cheating or felt like I'm becoming gay. Unfortunately you won't know how you feel on different compounds unless you try them. That's why I've been doing a lot of mini cycles to figure out what I do and don't like so I don't waste 16-20 weeks feeling miserable

 

[whispersauce]

I do 750 test and add 150 deca just to relieve joint pain

 

[muragost]

I do 750 test and add 150 deca just to relieve joint pain

i wanted to run test:eq:npp but i have been on dutasteride. What should ratios look like? i was thiking of 300:300:150

 

[xrayphoton13]

i wanted to run test:eq:npp but i have been on dutasteride. What should ratios look like? i was thiking of 300:300:150

Type IIx had a great post on this. I want to say if the test is higher than the nand it's generally okay. I'll edit this post with the link if I find it

EDIT: Post in thread 'Fina and NPP' Fina and NPP

 

[Jabroni_Meathead]

Im on my 6th cycle of NPP on top of my TRT but i increased my TRT to 300mg/week. I also run primo but only after NPP so i can lean out after growing size/strength on NPP.

 

[DraxTheDestroyer]

i wanted to run test:eq:npp but i have been on dutasteride. What should ratios look like? i was thiking of 300:300:150

I’ve found that keeping test higher than eq and deca/npp has been the key there. So 400-500test:300eq:150deca would be much better. Just my 2cents.

 

[Sickxlost]

Did anyone run test and deca/npp without mast/primo?

I see some people saying that the side effects are too bad if not paired with either mast or primo.

Lots of people run this. Primo or mast are not required lol. Everyone reacts to deca differently, never know until you try. But that’s a pretty common pair

 

[Ouch]

I ran a test / deca (not npp) cycle along w/ bpc 157. The goal was to heal a bad MCL. The cycle was successful for that goal. BUT…. I fucking hated how I felt and I wish I would’ve never added the Deca.

Worst PCT experience ever and tbh I don’t think I really ever fully recovered my natural production afterwards. Didn’t enjoy the cycle at all - physically or mentally.

 

[bigboy9]

I've always used test and deca together without a dht derivative, give it a go see how you get on, me personally I like test at 1g and deca at 450mg.
Best cycle I've ran was 1g test, 450mg deca and 600mg eq, was big lean and grainy.

 

[Ateam2023]

i was taking test/npp/hgh, and just had that npp blues , the gloomy mood etc, I added some Mast and those blues just went away, It was well worth the addition,,

 

[hexagonal]

Type IIx had a great post on this. I want to say if the test is higher than the nand it's generally okay. I'll edit this post with the link if I find it

EDIT: Post in thread 'Fina and NPP' Fina and NPP

Just wanted to say thanks for referencing this. I'd searched through the forums a few times because I was curious about ratios and fin/dut here and never managed to find a post - guess my search fu failed. And of course it was Type IIx that had written it.

Great info.

 

[accidentaljedi173]

Just did a cycle of 750 test 500 EQ 400 deca. Recently swapped the deca for 25 ment eod. I've put on a lot of size with this.

 

[xrayphoton13]

Just did a cycle of 750 test 500 EQ 400 deca. Recently swapped the deca for 25 ment eod. I've put on a lot of size with this.

Ment didn't screw with your bp worse than the deca? Deca and dbol already Jack up my bp enough that I haven't even considered ment

 

[Zeus45]

Just did a cycle of 750 test 500 EQ 400 deca. Recently swapped the deca for 25 ment eod. I've put on a lot of size with this.

MENT is the king of PEDS. Makes Deca Look like child play.

 

[DugPrime]

Oral DHT, makes you feel good

Time to give that Anavar a good try. Can’t wait for my order to arrive.

 

[DugPrime]

MENT is the king of PEDS. Makes Deca Look like child play.

After using it for over a year (from 1 to 25mg a day), all I can say is that MENT is overrated as fuck.

 

[Zeus45]

After using it for over a year (from 1 to 25mg a day), all I can say is that MENT is overrated as fuck.

If MENT is overrated than so is every other AAS, no steroid put on more size. Not Deca, Test, Dbol, Anadrol, EQ.