Test and deca without mast/primo?

[accidentaljedi173]

Ment didn't screw with your bp worse than the deca? Deca and dbol already Jack up my bp enough that I haven't even considered ment

Hasn't really effected it. Highest I've seen is 130's/70. I would like it lower but nothing to be concerned about.

 

[accidentaljedi173]

MENT is the king of PEDS. Makes Deca Look like child play.

Been enjoying it. Has my strength through the roof right now. Leg day has been a different animal for me lately.

 

[DugPrime]

If MENT is overrated than so is every other AAS, no steroid put on more size. Not Deca, Test, Dbol, Anadrol, EQ.

Yep. None of them will really add much more mass than testosterone alone, they're all fancy drugs with different side-effects, not worth it if your goal is hypertrophy.

 

[xrayphoton13]

Yep. None of them will really add much more mass than testosterone alone, they're all fancy drugs with different side-effects, not worth it if your goal is hypertrophy.

This is where I'm guessing an individual's genes can come into play. We have one person saying nothing puts on size like MENT and another saying they're all pretty close but with different side effect profiles. I've never tried MENT so I can't say how it is for me but the more I've played around with different compounds I do think you find the one (or a few) with the least side effects for you if you want to grow long term and just keep plugging away at it. Consistency over time will get you there. I would ask Type-IIx but if you've seen his ment unique effects article you already know he thinks it has no place in bodybuilding

 

[Zeus45]

This is where I'm guessing an individual's genes can come into play. We have one person saying nothing puts on size like MENT and another saying they're all pretty close but with different side effect profiles. I've never tried MENT so I can't say how it is for me but the more I've played around with different compounds I do think you find the one (or a few) with the least side effects for you if you want to grow long term and just keep plugging away at it. Consistency over time will get you there. I would ask Type-IIx but if you've seen his ment unique effects article you already know he thinks it has no place in bodybuilding

TYPE 2 doesn’t even lift bro

 

[DugPrime]

TYPE 2 doesn’t even lift bro

He and all of his few clients look like they barely train, so yeah — not exactly the best guy to ask.

 

[DugPrime]

This is where I'm guessing an individual's genes can come into play. We have one person saying nothing puts on size like MENT and another saying they're all pretty close but with different side effect profiles. I've never tried MENT so I can't say how it is for me but the more I've played around with different compounds I do think you find the one (or a few) with the least side effects for you if you want to grow long term and just keep plugging away at it. Consistency over time will get you there. I would ask Type-IIx but if you've seen his ment unique effects article you already know he thinks it has no place in bodybuilding

These drugs are way more anabolic — in my experience, you'll put on more mass with MENT or Tren than with Test alone. That’s just basic logic; they’re simply more powerful. But if someone wants a hardcore cycle, they could just run high doses of Test (2–3g) and still deal with milder sides and health risks compared to those compounds.

Plus, I can barely sleep on either of them, so for me, they’re not worth it — especially when you weigh the reward-to-risk ratio.

 

[null88]

Test + deca is very common, only in the past 5 years have I seen people talk a lot about primo.