Ghoul
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And a laminar flow hood to handle open topped vials in a sterile environment. An expensive pain in the ass for the non homebrewer doing this once every few years.
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And a laminar flow hood to handle open topped vials in a sterile environment. An expensive pain in the ass for the non homebrewer doing this once every few years.
AllGoodThings
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It was when I ordered too, but let me place the order as a backorder. I did state this in my OP
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AllGoodThings
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It was $26 for 1000 of them shipped. I have a crimper and plenty of vials caps, but it isn't about that. Even with a totally perfect vial that has a stopper that's never been pierced, you're still helping to seal the stopper from the outside environment. Rubber breaks down over time, you'll see this with shoes that sit in a closet and are never worn, as they'll still crack and weaken over time. Vial stoppers are not the same rubber, obviously, but still susceptible to breaking down over time, and thus, compromising the seal and ruining the vial contents. These vial seals help limit air exposure of the stopper.
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Spaceman Spiff
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Who the fuck is lifting the stopper?
You can remove aluminums seals without lifting the stopper but you lack common sense.
Jesus Christ you are a fucking moron dude I
Spaceman Spiff
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I guess it depends on the rubber stopper quality you are using. I go back to some plumbing tools that use rubber and are fine for many years
ineffectual
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One could get into growing mushrooms. You could use a still air box but a laminar flow hood is a better option. Easier to justify the cost because you are using equipment for several hobbies!
sionnach
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Yep that's how we all got here.
AllGoodThings
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Yes sir. I used to buy the cheapest stoppers I could find, and those are likely just fine for most uses, but when I'm thinking about trying to get 5 or 10+ years of storage out of a vial, my mindset shifts from "cheapest" to "best possible" from a longevity standpoint.
Spaceman Spiff
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Respond moron.
It's like saying you cant carefully change a bandaid post op. No one is telling you to fully open the person up again.
ve79
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I agree it's definitely not worth the price and the frequency of injections. I also got knots from it . I didn't like that one but. I still yet like to try DHB
All easily gettable with Rx but just too damn expensive for what you get. I should have converted sooner. Live and learn.Sounds like you struck provider gold.
Every doc I've known to be this charitable with scrips was mid-50s, recently divorced, had a new corvette and college girlfriend.
Good joke though!!
sionnach
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Shit, if you know where to get a prescription for a divorce and a 20yo gf, you should be way more popular on this site.
Photon
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I figured this would be the place to share this. I was looking for vial seals, and stumbled upon this crazy deal. Most every place I looked, a box of 1000 20mm seals was around $130-$180, depending on brand. I found a place selling one particular brand and color for $17.08. The quantity said box of 1000, but I was convinced it had to be too good to be true. I took a screenshot of everything in case I needed to do a return, and then placed the order. It says out of stock, but allows you to place the backorder anyhow. With shipping, it came to $26.57. I did get an email after the initial order confirmation explaining it was a special order item, and asked if I wanted to wait. I said I'd wait, and a few days later I had fedex tracking. When it arrived, I was pleasantly surprised to find it was indeed a box of 1000. Even of you don't need 1000, it's cheaper to buy this than smaller quantities, so might as well. Here's the link;
ChemoPlus IVA Security Seals for Vial Tops | Protective Seals
ChemoPlus IVA Security Seals protect IV vial tops from contamination and tampering. Sterile, latex- and PVC-free, self-destruct if removed, USP 797 compliant.www.medicaleshop.com
For the options, choose 20mm, Blue, and Box.
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A simple color change to orange, and the price shoots up by over $100
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@JBird99
This is an alternative to what i previously shared, a much better deal too, imho.
Much appreciated! Yeah I’ll take a deal when I can if the quality doesn’t suffer.
Not to mention a laminar flow hood is unnecessary.
In pharmaceutical manufacture we would use an isolator; however these don't strictly use laminar flow.
However UGLs don't use an isolator, or a mini-cube (small laminar flow hood). Your product is made "sterile" by filtering and use of BA/Solvents.
Assuming you have a clean environment, you are clean and follow basic hygiene procedures you could replace the stopper, if required, reasonably at home. A mini-cube would not add any tangible margin of safety.
Qualification - 23 years as a healthcare engineer, chartered by IHEEM and working in aseptic suites for production of various medications.
Ghoul just likes to flex his theoretical knowledge with no real practical experience to determine what is actually practicable and reasonable.
Ghoul
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You would’ve done better letting your “qualifications” and advice stand on its own merits instead of making an unprovoked ad hominem attack.
For someone with your supposed qualifications, so relevant to MESO’s harm reduction mission, it’s quite odd your contribution over the last 4 years here has been so, uh, “thin” on practicality and long on insults. I’m happy to stack my contributions against yours.
Unfortunately for you, having lived in that sad monument to terminal decline of a country, the UK, for a few years I’m immune to the deference you’re accustomed to because I’m well acquainted with your type, with two things not apparent to most Americans;
1. “Engineer” doesn’t carry the same meaning it does in the US. The guy who unclogs your sewage pipes, installs used tires from a run down shop in a slum, or sweeps up around a pharma plant are all “engineers” in British parlance.
2. There’s no bottom to the barely restrained bitterness of many middle aged British men. It’s the result of decades of quiet desperation, seeing a steady stream of foreigners moving in and out of their country invariably doing better financially and with their women, and finally the demoralizing influence of the NHS, that thinly rationed and long waiting list ridden health care system, stocked with 3rd world medics willing to work for peanuts and permanent residency, routinely reminding them of how little their lives are actually worth.
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My contributions on harm reduction are "thin" because I am aware pharmacology is not my area of expertise; I don't need to try to position myself as an expert in an area is am not. There may be some reflection for you in there.
As for your frankly childish attacks on the UK (btw are you one of the childish types that hangs out on quota trying to stir discontent between British and Americans with ridiculous claims/questions?) - you will observe I stayed I am a chartered engineer. This is equivalent to PE status in the US, and as of last year in many cases CEng accreditation can now exempt you from the FE and PE exams when applying for PE licence in the US. My education is to post-graduate level.
The rest of your waffling jibberish was just US alt-right media nonsense. Just as it would be possible for me to perceive the US is full of gender confused swamp donkeys and overweight racists - I use my own interaction's and travel to form my opinions. It may benefit you to do the same.
PS. To the "normal" Americans out there that don't feel the desire to turn everything into some sort of weird politics debate. I love you guys.
I don’t remember if you had a preference for vials. I’m not opposed to spending the money if needed on more expensive vials but the best budget option since I have some stuff I want to store long term.
Photon
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Either works fine.
If you're ok with expired use this
20mm, 10ml and 30ml Non-Sterile, Empty, Clear Glass Vials with FluroTec™ barrier film, EXPIRED
Non-sterile 20mm, 10ml and 30ml FluroTec™vials are expired and are no longer considered sterile. These are for use with procedures that do not require the vial to be sterile.
www.farrislabs.com
Else use this
Ultra Spec 10ML Clear Sealed Sterile Glass Vials, Qty 1
Ultra Spec Sterile Clear Sealed Glass Vials - 10ML (20mm Neck) made of SCHOTT FIOLAX® glass tubing. In order to receive vials in sealed shrink wrap boxes, please order in multiples of 25.
www.medical-and-lab-supplies.com
the Expired should be able to withstand a 10 year storage right? That first one was the one I was looking for.Either works fine.
If you're ok with expired use this
20mm, 10ml and 30ml Non-Sterile, Empty, Clear Glass Vials with FluroTec™ barrier film, EXPIRED
Non-sterile 20mm, 10ml and 30ml FluroTec™vials are expired and are no longer considered sterile. These are for use with procedures that do not require the vial to be sterile.www.farrislabs.com
Else use this
Ultra Spec 10ML Clear Sealed Sterile Glass Vials, Qty 1
Ultra Spec Sterile Clear Sealed Glass Vials - 10ML (20mm Neck) made of SCHOTT FIOLAX® glass tubing. In order to receive vials in sealed shrink wrap boxes, please order in multiples of 25.
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