Unsure About HCG Dosage

[sergio mauro]

Hey, I've already open a thread about my cycle, which is this one:

Cycle:

• Week 1 to 8: 0.25 Anastrozol Every Other Day
• Week 1 to 8: 3000-5000ius of HCG every 4th week
• Week 1 to 8: 100mg of Prop Every 2 Day
• Week 1 to 8: 50mg of anavar Every day
• Week 1 to 8: 50mg of Provimed Every Day
• Week 9 - 40mg Tamoximed+ 100mgclomid Every Day
• Week 10 - 30mg Tamoximed+ 50mg clomid Every Day
• Week 11 - 20mg Tamoximed+ 50mg clomid Every Day

But, my question is, don't you guys think that 3000-5000ius of hcg in just one shot, is way too much? Should I split dosages during my 8weeks cycle?

Best regards.

 

[FuriousWO]

Yes way too much. 250ui 2x/wk. But there are more experienced guys that will chime in

 

[sergio mauro]

Alright. Thanks. I hope that these guys check this, cuz I might start this cycle by next week. Thx again

 

[bigrobbie]

How many iu of hcg you have? I like to run 250iu wk for 6-8 weeks. You can (I don't suggest it however) front load your PCT with higher doses for shorter time.

The amount you have and length of cycle will help me answer you better.

 

[sergio mauro]

10.000iu. However, I dont pretend to use it on pct. Its a 8week cycle.
Thank you.

 

[Northern Nutrition]

For 99% of recreational AAS users, 250iu of hCG twice per week is plenty to prevent testicular atrophy.

 

[sergio mauro]

Alright. So, Should I start HCG shots in the same week as I start Test P?

Thank you.

 

[Northern Nutrition]

Yes, especially with short esters.

With long esters you can easily begin hCG on wk 3. This will allow you to use up 5k of hCG @ 250iu 2/wk effectively during the course of a 12 wk cycle provided you pre load slin pins and freeze half of it.

 

[Ozzy619]

Straight from Bill Roberts, here you go

https://thinksteroids.com/steroid-profiles/hcg/

 

[Northern Nutrition]

Straight from Bill Roberts, here you go

https://thinksteroids.com/steroid-profiles/hcg/

Terrific article, Ozzy.

I think a number of folks here could benefit from the entire article, but particularly this passage;

"As a part of PCT, as already explained HCG should not be used during that period in which inhibition would result from the combination of the resulting testosterone production and the remaining levels of injected steroid."

 

[Ozzy619]

Terrific article, Ozzy.

I think a number of folks here could benefit from the entire article, but particularly this passage;

"As a part of PCT, as already explained HCG should not be used during that period in which inhibition would result from the combination of the resulting testosterone production and the remaining levels of injected steroid."

Thanks man. I really enjoy Bill Roberts articles. I know there's a lot of conflicting info on the web concerning running hcg all the way into pct. It would be nice if everyone got on the same page.

 

[sergio mauro]

Alright. I'm pretty sure that I'm good to go now!

Thank you so much for the support.

 

[sergio mauro]

Amazing Article Bro!

Thank you.

 

[Dr JIM]

Hey, I've already open a thread about my cycle, which is this one:

Cycle:

• Week 1 to 8: 0.25 Anastrozol Every Other Day
• Week 1 to 8: 3000-5000ius of HCG every 4th week
• Week 1 to 8: 100mg of Prop Every 2 Day
• Week 1 to 8: 50mg of anavar Every day
• Week 1 to 8: 50mg of Provimed Every Day
• Week 9 - 40mg Tamoximed+ 100mgclomid Every Day
• Week 10 - 30mg Tamoximed+ 50mg clomid Every Day
• Week 11 - 20mg Tamoximed+ 50mg clomid Every Day

But, my question is, don't you guys think that 3000-5000ius of hcg in just one shot, is way too much? Should I split dosages during my 8weeks cycle?

Best regards.

What is your age bc excluding the added Var your "cycle" approximates that of higher end TRT.
So unless your in the 40 year and above bracket, the HCG and the TWO drug SERM PCT is unwarranted, as is the Arimidex and Proviron

Actually bc your entire "cycle" doesn't make sense, who is providing you with this cycle suggestion?

 

[sergio mauro]

I'm 25. So, this cycle might end in a TRT for life?

By the way, Taking Var out of this cycle would be more beneficial then?
I made this cycle and my thoughts were that, anavar would give me a lower BF and Test P lean mass.

 

[Dr JIM]

The primary benefit achieved by using intra-cycle HCG is the maintenance of fertility, period. Consequently whether someone OPTS to use HCG during a cycle is a matter of personal preference. Thats because high end doses of AAS used during cycling nullify any real Leydig cell recovery.

HCG however is very effective at restoring Leydig cell function in the post cycle recovery period and that is when it's use becomes critical.

So HCG during a cycle = optional, yet HCG after a cycle = mandatory, IMO

 

[Dr JIM]

Hey, I've already open a thread about my cycle, which is this one:

Cycle:

• Week 1 to 8: 0.25 Anastrozol Every Other Day
• Week 1 to 8: 3000-5000ius of HCG every 4th week
• Week 1 to 8: 100mg of Prop Every 2 Day
• Week 1 to 8: 50mg of anavar Every day
• Week 1 to 8: 50mg of Provimed Every Day
• Week 9 - 40mg Tamoximed+ 100mgclomid Every Day
• Week 10 - 30mg Tamoximed+ 50mg clomid Every Day
• Week 11 - 20mg Tamoximed+ 50mg clomid Every Day

But, my question is, don't you guys think that 3000-5000ius of hcg in just one shot, is way too much? Should I split dosages during my 8weeks cycle?

Best regards.

(FIRST and foremost obtain BASELINE LH and TT levels) do not start a cycle wo them!

Your cycle revised

WEEKS 1-10 T-p @ 100mg QOD
WEEKS 8 - 12 Var 25mg BID

WEEK 12 & 13 HCG 2500 IU EVERY THREE DAYS (four doses total)
WEEK 12 & 13 Adex 0.5mg OOD
(Obtain LH and TT level) if at precycle baseline start Clomid below if NOT continue HCG

WEEK 14 CLOMID 100MG QD x two doses
then 50mg QD for 1-2 weeks

This is fine for anyones first cycle and the PCT is actually quite aggressive considering your age and the AAS being cycled
JIM

 

[sergio mauro]

Will be obtaining BASELINE LH and TT levels this week then.

HCG 2500 IU each shot?

So discard tamoxifen totally?

Ya ikr, this revised cycle was really out of my mind, for me my cycle was OK hahahaha.
Thank you so much.

 

[sergio mauro]

Also, if I choose to take 250ui twice a

(FIRST and foremost obtain BASELINE LH and TT levels) do not start a cycle wo them!

Your cycle revised

WEEKS 1-10 T-p @ 100mg QOD
WEEKS 8 - 12 Var 25mg BID

WEEK 12 & 13 HCG 2500 IU EVERY THREE DAYS (four doses total)
WEEK 12 & 13 Adex 0.5mg OOD
(Obtain LH and TT level) if at precycle baseline start Clomid below if NOT continue HCG

WEEK 14 CLOMID 100MG QD x two doses
then 50mg QD for 1-2 weeks

This is fine for anyones first cycle and the PCT is actually quite aggressive considering your age and the AAS being cycled
JIM

Also, If I choose to take 250ui twice a week of hcg during the cycle, the 2500IU shots still stay at 2500UI after the cycle ends?

 

[Dr JIM]

250IU of HCG twice a week is for high end cycles you just don't need it or the Tamoxifen.

You know how many mates recover their HTPA with nothing after the cycle I just provided U with THE OVERWHELMING majority, IME.

So although PCT won't hurt it's benefit when cycling TRT doses of TT and twice the recommended dose of the DHT analog Anavar, is limited IMO, especially for those younger than 30 years

Oh I suspect it's fair to mention there are some who believe PCT should be a part of EVERY cycle, and in that instance we shall agree to disagree