First Cycle at 23, please help sanity check my plan

[zamtrios]

Age 23
Prepared to be on for life


You really aren’t. You’re just highly insecure with how you look. At the same time, the way you look isn’t really that remarkable for a gymgoer albeit respectable enough in the eyes of the general American public. I’d give being natty and being aggressive with training, diet, bulking, and cutting a try for 1-2 more years. Frankly if you hop on right now, there’s a high chance that although you’ll look bigger, you won’t look that aesthetic, you’ll hate the side effects and won’t know how to mitigate them, you’ll get upset with the water gains lost when you hop off and hate training natty, you’ll damage your health and risk PCT side effects (which can be hell and a half for some people), and you’ll have irreversible cosmetic issues

I'm not really insecure, i'm pretty happy with my progress and random guys come up to me every other week or so at the gym - prolly because my ethnicity is not known for their looks lo.l I just have other priorities in life so I'm trying to complete my gym journey asap. I'm not even trying to look bigger though especially on 200mg of test + reta and lowering it after that "blast". I just think its obviously optimal for life in general to be on exogenous test. Natural test sucks for most modern men unless you're 100% dialed which lets be real is prolly a waste of time for most people considering for most people effort into physique has diminishing gains after a baseline

 

[zamtrios]

Post update - ended up finding some coaches to help me and comparing prices.

 

[Elektrobot]

so I'm trying to complete my gym journey asap

This isn't something you acquire and get to keep, like you completed a task that is now done.

This is a lifestyle. Not a task

It goes away the second you stop

If you think this is something that is ever "complete", don't bother starting.

Pick something else that actually has a possibility of competition.

 

[marsupial]

I'm not really insecure, i'm pretty happy with my progress and random guys come up to me every other week or so at the gym - prolly because my ethnicity is not known for their looks lo.l I just have other priorities in life so I'm trying to complete my gym journey asap. I'm not even trying to look bigger though especially on 200mg of test + reta and lowering it after that "blast". I just think its obviously optimal for life in general to be on exogenous test. Natural test sucks for most modern men unless you're 100% dialed which lets be real is prolly a waste of time for most people considering for most people effort into physique has diminishing gains after

“Obviously optimal for life in general to be on exogenous test”. Dude come on, seriously? Do you even understand all the implications of being on exogenous test? In terms of physical health, mental health, ordering the test itself, ordering the supplies, what to do when you leave home for a few days, what to do about fertility, how to hide it from friends, women, and family who visit you, how much of a burden injecting yourself is, combating side effects, potential for irreversible side effects like gyno and hair loss (and no, your genes cannot guarantee hair protection against supranormal test levels) list goes on and on. Fact that you mention reta shows that you’re probably part of Clavicular’s cult following

Stop this shit, leave this forum, and go train natty. This isn’t for you. Everyone else please stop advising this guy

 

[marsupial]

And “just trying to complete gym journey” isn’t exactly compatible with using gear considering that when you stop gear your gains also go away