thinking about insulin!

[Sworder]

There's more to that then just androgen receptors n

Like what?

A person can actively takes steps in their training to prioritize a specific body part ala frequency, volume, intensity, TUT, etc

That's not what the question was, for me example. Why do my traps & shoulders grow so fast but not my arms.
slow-fast twitch comes into this too just curious to see what you were referring to.

It does answer the question but it's not the only answer.

I don't feel it does answer the question, the problem is some muscles are not responding as others. Your answer is"

A person can actively takes steps in their training to prioritize a specific body part ala frequency, volume, intensity, TUT, etc

Which when I re-read doesn't even answer the question, rather it suggests steps one can take to compensate for the lagging body part.

Am just giving you a hard time buddy.

 

[Docd187123]

I don't feel it does answer the question, the problem is some muscles are not responding as others. Your answer is"

Which when I re-read doesn't even answer the question, rather it suggests steps one can take to compensate for the lagging body part.

Am just giving you a hard time buddy.

Or imagine they have already taken those steps and that is the reason that certain muscles are responding better. Another reason is genetics like muscle length, bone length,insertion points, etc. Take 2 ppl, 1 with a 1m forearm (I know it's out there bear with me) and another with a 1.5m forearm. They both do barbell curls with 100lbs same reps and sets. The person with the longer forearm is mechanically doing more work bc of a longer moment arm from the fulcrum, in this case the elbow. A longer clavicle will help give you wider shoulders which makes it easier to get the v look or make the lats look more pronounced.

 

[Sworder]

Or imagine they have already taken those steps and that is the reason that certain muscles are responding better. Another reason is genetics like muscle length, bone length,insertion points, etc. Take 2 ppl, 1 with a 1m forearm (I know it's out there bear with me) and another with a 1.5m forearm. They both do barbell curls with 100lbs same reps and sets. The person with the longer forearm is mechanically doing more work bc of a longer moment arm from the fulcrum, in this case the elbow. A longer clavicle will help give you wider shoulders which makes it easier to get the v look or make the lats look more pronounced.

We are altering our "genetics" with AAS though keep that in mind. In regards to your example that is more about strength and muscle work. Which falls more into PL than BB where we isolate. I know muscle/bone length is crucial there. Anyway, I will come back to this subject at another time.

Have a good night.

 

[Docd187123]

We are altering our "genetics" with AAS though keep that in mind. In regards to your example that is more about strength and muscle work. Which falls more into PL than BB where we isolate. I know muscle/bone length is crucial there. Anyway, I will come back to this subject at another time.

Have a good night.

AAS changes hormonal profile not insertion points and muscle lengths. And it is t just about BB and PL, mechanical tension is a primary driver of the hypertrophic response to training and in my example above, 1 person can have a lot more mechanical tension while lifting the same weight and reps/sets.

Same to you, good night.

 

[Sworder]

AAS changes hormonal profile not insertion points and muscle lengths. And it is t just about BB and PL, mechanical tension is a primary driver of the hypertrophic response to training and in my example above, 1 person can have a lot more mechanical tension while lifting the same weight and reps/sets.

Same to you, good night.

Last one, so you are stating to stimulate growth you need to apply as much stimuli to the muscle as possible versus mechanical work? And the reason why some body parts don't grow as much is because of mechanical work takes over too much and the muscle isn't doing the work..?

 

[Docd187123]

Last one, so you are stating to stimulate growth you need to apply as much stimuli to the muscle as possible versus mechanical work? And the reason why some body parts don't grow as much is because of mechanical work takes over too much and the muscle isn't doing the work..?

It's a reason not the only. Just like the amount of androgen receptors in an area can influence what grows quicker than something else, so too do these reasons.

Edit* you're trying to box me into a single reason/answer so you can tell me it's wrong but I'm not saying there's only one reason. There are a multitude of reasons for it.

 

[Sworder]

It's a reason not the only. Just like the amount of androgen receptors in an area can influence what grows quicker than something else, so too do these reasons.

Edit* you're trying to box me into a single reason/answer so you can tell me it's wrong but I'm not saying there's only one reason. There are a multitude of reasons for it.

Not trying to box ya in ;D

Your point is valid to an extent. It's not about who is right or wrong, it's about throwing out as much info available. Getting google ninja style tomorrow.

 

[MisterBiggins]

A person can actively takes steps in their training to prioritize a specific body part ala frequency, volume, intensity, TUT, etc

Louie Simmons puts out some great info on this topic of special assistance work to bring up weak areas, ie.( Reverse hypers, GHD,ect.) When it comes to building the legs a strong posterior chain is a must. Doc you always have great info to offer.

 

[jacked44]

Great discussion.

 

[musclenerd25]

Post this any of the articles from the "research you have done" bc what the research indicates is like GH, insulin is much more involved in preventing SKM breakdown (AKA anti catabolic) rather than an ANABOLIC HORMONE, unless perhaps supraphysiologic doses are used!

???

I was under the impression insulin is the most anabolic hormone in the body. driving nutrients and sugar from the blood stream into the muscle tissue.

also , is insulin responsible for muscle gut on bodybuilders ? like GH gut. I've heard differing opinions on whether insulin causes that

 

[naturalkon]

???

I was under the impression insulin is the most anabolic hormone in the body. driving nutrients and sugar from the blood stream into the muscle tissue.

also , is insulin responsible for muscle gut on bodybuilders ? like GH gut. I've heard differing opinions on whether insulin causes that

The amount of food they have to eat mixed with gh and slin causes that. Wanna get big. All the pros use slin. Not giving a protocol but there's a reason they do.

 

[Sworder]

The amount of food they have to eat mixed with gh and slin causes that. Wanna get big. All the pros use slin. Not giving a protocol but there's a reason they do.

Arnold had to eat a lot as well and the BB back then didn't have that gut. Personally I find slin to increase adipose tissue under the ab muscles. I don't like slin.

 

[naturalkon]

Arnold had to eat a lot as well and the BB back then didn't have that gut. Personally I find slin to increase adipose tissue under the ab muscles. I don't like slin.

Yeah but Arnold is tiny compared to some of the guys today. I mean look at his legs. They're chicken legs in today's standards. He was all chest and biceps.

 

[naturalkon]

Not saying I'm a fan of the new look. Just saying to get that big there is a price to pay.

 

[Sworder]

Not saying I'm a fan of the new look. Just saying to get that big there is a price to pay.

Yeah, his legs were tiny, but his stomach was tiny too. He didn't have the teenage mutant ninja turtle belly, to each his own!

 

[musclenerd25]

if it were the result of excessive food intake then I'd imagine you'd see it on natural bodybuilders , which you don't. even obese people after losing lots of weight have excess skin but the waist line hasn't changed underneath

 

[evarthecaveman]

If you don't make a living off of your physique I wouldn't use insulin.