Photon
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I've only ever experienced sleep paralysis with Day, never with Quv. Quv is probably much safer, especially if you drive in the morning.
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I've only ever experienced sleep paralysis with Day, never with Quv. Quv is probably much safer, especially if you drive in the morning.
LOL, there's no sleep on earth like taking the Ambien and Cyclobenzaprine combo the medics hand out before sacking out on the cold ass floor of a C17 on the 14hr flight to Afghanistan. God help you if you got to wake up to piss
On the opposite end of the spectrum, some Dexadrine when you've been up for 24 hours taking contact at some shit hole OP is a godsend. Better living through chemistry!
jung
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Took it for 6 months myself; unfortunately, Quviviq didn't work for me at all. Like I wasn't taking anything at 50mg.
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This guy gets itLOL, there's no sleep on earth like taking the Ambien and Cyclobenzaprine combo the medics hand out before sacking out on the cold ass floor of a C17 on the 14hr flight to Afghanistan. God help you if you got to wake up to piss
On the opposite end of the spectrum, some Dexadrine when you've been up for 24 hours taking contact at some shit hole OP is a godsend. Better living through chemistry!
Worked immediately. I'm a little tired in the morning, but it goes away within an hour of getting up.
That is what I read about it, but it seems to work for some.
BamaCrazy
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Looks like I’m going to have the opportunity to try Dayvigo and Quviviq. I ordered Dayvigo from India Pharma. Went to see my Doc this morning and my PA for Quviviq was immediately approved by Express Scripts.
jung
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Man, please keep me posted on your experience.
I really want to try Dayvigo.
Hope you find a good solution between the two. Sleep is king.
Same here. They're okay. It's definitely a different vibe from Ambien. Z drugs drop the anvil on you but it's not like feeling sleepy. It's like getting roofied. For me, the DORAs feel like actually being tired and sleepy. You just have to plan ahead and have an empty stomach, and then it takes 30-60min to kick in. I definitely have to take a double dose, though.
I can push through the Ambien haze if my brain is feeling stubborn, though that is universally a bad idea. I either snack, or buy something on Amazon I don't need, or say some incredibly stupid shit, or all 3. It seems a bit harder to shrug off the DORA sleepiness. I never felt hung over next day from Ambien, so I can't say they're better in that regard. But they're not worse.
Let us know how they work for you!
ineffectual
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I have a friend who takes promethazine daily for dizziness. Thank you for this info.
ineffectual
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What are are the long term outcomes? with light use or like an everyday use?
Trazodone, Mirtazapine, not a drug but L-Theanine works well for me and lots of other people I know.
BamaCrazy
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The Doc prescribed 25mg. The first night 25mg actually kept me from falling asleep. After 2.5 hours I took a second pill and that did the trick. 8.5 hours sleep according to my sleep tracking device. Second night (last night) I took 50mg and I got 7.5 hours. From what I’ve read it takes about 1 week for it to start working and 3 weeks for it to shine.
What I like most about it so far is it isn’t like Ambien or Zopi. Those two turn me off like a machine and turn me back on in 8 hours. Which is kind of freaky. Quviviq just keeps me sleepy throughout the night for 7-8 hours. So if I wake to pee I’m back to sleep fast.
Ambien was super effective for going to sleep, but not so great at sleep maintenance. I think Zopi/Eszopy/Lunesta did a bit better at that. But, yeah, nothing like natural sleep.
I had missed that the DORAs get more effective over time — thanks for mentioning that. I’ll give them a longer runway. I’d been trying them out here and there one or two nights a week.
I’m glad you’re responding so well to Quviviq. When sleep sucks, everything sucks.
I was on an antidepressant a year or two ago that was a life changer. It was like being as energized as you can be without freaking people out, mind working fast but not racing, boundless energy, without being all the way into mania. Cocaine without the crash and general assholery. Laser focus at work without being over focused like Ritalin or Adderall. The fucking Limitless pill. But I couldn’t sleep, ever. 50mg Ambien - nope. Triple Dayvigo dose - nope. Trazodone, second third fourth fifth line sleep aids - nope. Eventually it just burned me out and I had to drop it. Saddest day of my life.
That’s my Flowers for Algernon one man show, thank you for coming.
Tdeck81
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I saw gabapentin listed earlier in the thread. I used it long term for nerve pain and it works, but I developed some short term cognitive issues. Could have been due to a high dose, 1800mg if I recall correctly? Worth a try though
Ghoul
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Instinctively I'd think anything that you "feel" so potently like a sleep med is inherently riskier because it's such an unnatural effect, but that's just a gut feeling and I haven't done any work to back it up.
On the other hand, when used properly ("proper",in my opinion), sleep meds are a last resort and taken sparingly. For me if it's 2-3 a month it's unusual.
Gabapentin otoh seems like it's normally used daily by many, so even if risk is lower, exposure is far higher; making potential for damage much more significant.
Finally, I'd say of the Z meds, Zaleplon does seem to have the best safety record, and its short acting, non-lingering effects are probably a clue as to why.
Photon
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BamaCrazy
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No. I dropped the Tren when my lab results came back and my liver enzymes were high.
If Dayvigo is that much stronger I’ll have to try it on a weekend. On Quviviq I wake up feeling drowsy but feel fully alert after breakfast and coffee.
If you don't like this I wouldn't try Dayvigo. It has a longer half life so it will probably be worse. It takes me about an hour to get over the morning drowsiness from Dayvigo. Totally worth it to me, though, for the great sleep.
