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[hellogre2]

But you can add EQ and keep your E2 in check without an AI and have added benefit and it's cheap

eq seems to be hit or miss for some people.
But yeah thats a better cycle for sure.

The point I wanted to make is that test covers 95% of what a non pro/competitive aas user need (aas wise, everyone needs GH and reta (or at least something that keeps you insulin sensitive).

Plus, you can't do a 1g EQ cycle just like you can't do a 1g primo or mast cycle alone or whatever 1 comp cycle. The difference between a guy using 2g of test and an AI and 1g of test + 1g mast/primo/EQ/anything relatively clean isn't massive imo. Probably you would gain more, but nothing heavy. At this point, the guy on only test could easily build more muscle if he trains/rest/eat well.

 

[Sampei]

eq seems to be hit or miss for some people.
But yeah thats a better cycle for sure.

The point I wanted to make is that test covers 95% of what a non pro/competitive aas user need (aas wise, everyone needs GH and reta (or at least something that keeps you insulin sensitive).

Plus, you can't do a 1g EQ cycle just like you can't do a 1g primo or mast cycle alone or whatever 1 comp cycle. The difference between a guy using 2g of test and an AI and 1g of test + 1g mast/primo/EQ/anything relatively clean isn't massive imo. Probably you would gain more, but nothing heavy. At this point, the guy on only test could easily build more muscle if he trains/rest/eat well.

Agree except some ppl don't react too well to high dosage of testosterone, so 2G is not something all can achieve, using medium dosages of different substances allow many to get similar or better results with less sides.

But I do agree with you, most of us me included don't even need more than 1G of test reta and HGH

 

[narta]

Test, still dirt, cheap

Wait fro it.....

 

[hellogre2]

Wait fro it.....

You can still buy a kg of raw for 600+. We went from 6$, 1 year later 10$. So what, next year, 20$. Thats still cheap af. Test is everywhere, cost dirt cheap, easy to make. No one will stop gear because they cant source test.

 

[IndividualMan]

Test, still dirt, cheap

it is around 70cents-1.1$ for basic esters and up to 3$/gram for fun oddball esters, depending where you look, wouldn't call that dirt cheap. (the price per vial is pretty dang high now, considering we had prices as low as 25c per gram before all of this, it feels expensive man

 

[Ghoul]

You can still buy a kg of raw for 600+. We went from 6$, 1 year later 10$. So what, next year, 20$. Thats still cheap af. Test is everywhere, cost dirt cheap, easy to make. No one will stop gear because they cant source test.

Test is dirt cheap not only because supply is plentiful, which probably won't change, but also easy availability. Some bitcoin, and a few weeks later you've got it. If the feds ever decide to make some examples, with a few dozen arrests instead of love letters when they find packs, who's going to risk ordering from China any more?

That's when it's back to buying $60+ vials of low quality crap behind the gym.

 

[pipo]

I bought recently at 0,98$/g(sustanon).With shipping,transfer commission and testing it will end at 1,3$. Compared to finish oil from China 4$/g it's still a good deal.
For personal use it's cheap.
Test should be available fairly easy compared to more fancy substance from now onwards as it's easy to produce and has a place in medical field

 

[IndividualMan]

That's when it's back to buying $60+ vials of low quality crap behind the gym.

dont say that about big billys muscle juice, it is the best sustanon 250 (dosed at 130mg/ml) you can get this side of the hudson, and it only uses the highest quality cooking oil as a carrier

 

[narta]

You can still buy a kg of raw for 600+. We went from 6$, 1 year later 10$. So what, next year, 20$. Thats still cheap af. Test is everywhere, cost dirt cheap, easy to make. No one will stop gear because they cant source test.

Wait till buying requires a legit pharma license and failure to produce one for a sale you did end you up in jail. No china middleman will play dice with their head for you kg of test. Peptides are semi legal and more money to be made

 

[Sampei]

Wait till buying requires a legit pharma license and failure to produce one for a sale you did end you up in jail. No china middleman will play dice with their head for you kg of test. Peptides are semi legal and more money to be made

You saying I better buy few KGs of test? Ahahha

 

[narta]

You saying I better buy few KGs of test? Ahahha

 

[malfeasance]

If the feds ever decide to make some examples, with a few dozen arrests instead of love letters when they find packs, who's going to risk ordering from China any more?

Everybody.

Posts about the arrest will be met with all sorts of excuses for why it does not apply generally and steroids are zero risk and the cops basically want to give you a high five and ask about your "cycle"

It won't change anybody's mind about the risks.

 

[Ghoul]

Everybody.

Posts about the arrest will be met with all sorts of excuses for why it does not apply generally and steroids are zero risk and the cops basically want to give you a high five and ask about your "cycle"

It won't change anybody's mind about the risks.

Hopefully that'll never be put to the test.

We already have folks who only pay the elevated prices of domestic because of the fear of international orders being seized and the relatively benign "brush with the law" that might occur via a letter. I'd think even the slight chance (from near zero now) of a knock at the door would scare some proportion off.

And who knows if it would be slight risk. As anyone who's gotten a love
letter before knows, they make it clear that future violations could result in a large (5 figure) fine (if not outright prosecution). They may not send a door breaching team, but I'm surprised they haven't used the fining authority they have as a deterrent, tbh.

 

[IndividualMan]

Hopefully that'll never be put to the test.

We already have folks who only pay the elevated prices of domestic because of the fear of international orders being seized and the relatively benign "brush with the law" that might occur via a letter. I'd think even the slight chance (from near zero now) of a knock at the door would scare some proportion off.

And who knows if it would be slight risk. As anyone who's gotten a love
letter before knows, they make it clear that future violations could result in a large (5 figure) fine (if not outright prosecution). They may not send a door breaching team, but I'm surprised they haven't used the fining authority they have as a deterrent, tbh.

stop saying these things ghoul, you keep saying/predicting things that happen over in the US. No, they should not use their fining authority as a deterrent. bad.

 

[Oswizzle]

Bro I’ve lost hundreds of pounds in the mail at customs in Memphis and FedEx main hub … never even got a letter in the mail and this was all going to the UK from SoCal …. Nobody gives 2 shits about steroids

 

[FR384]

I had a pack a few months ago, small cut in, cut inner pack, took sample, then sticky tape over outside and sent on. Its been a minute, but any other packages tested had a "opened by customs" on it.

Nothing illegal in this one though

 

[AlexDavis43]

I had a recent pack from overseas to USA and all the tape was obviously cut to open to it, but no Customs tape or sticker

it was only ancillaries but still... who tf opened my pack ?

 

[FR384]

Wait till buying requires a legit pharma license and failure to produce one for a sale you did end you up in jail. No china middleman will play dice with their head for you kg of test. Peptides are semi legal and more money to be made

Then, India will step in with Chinese middlemen based in India....

 

[DonLigero]

Trump just announced a 25% tariff on India starting 8/1/2025 for buying oil from Russia.

 

[Ghoul]

Trump just announced a 25% tariff on India starting 8/1/2025 for buying oil from Russia.

Still have the de minimus exemption for anything under $800 though. OFC, if they open your box of India pharma it's almost certainly a seizure at that point anyway.