Quitting meat ?

I love meat!! The food that is haha
But been reading alot about the great health gains from cutting it out of our diet. Anyone care to share they experience going vegan? Engery levels, muscle loss or gains etc. Cheers Cdnguy


7 Things That Happen When You Stop Eating Meat
Never went vegan but ever hear of the hodge twins?? There on YouTube they went vegan for 60 and lost a shit ton of muscle haha maybe it was cause of being vegan or just came off
 
I love meat!! The food that is haha
But been reading alot about the great health gains from cutting it out of our diet. Anyone care to share they experience going vegan? Engery levels, muscle loss or gains etc. Cheers Cdnguy


7 Things That Happen When You Stop Eating Meat

Come on, I know you're Canadian, but even you can't fall for that blather.

Especially the save the planet rubbish - meat is by far the most nutrient dense - as opposed to shipping fluffy veggies from far flung places to liberal city dwellers thinking they're so f-ing green. Huge carbon footprint - to use your words.

Quality meat can't be beat - no dirty pun intended in that one.

Look at your teeth - look at the single stomach - at our eyes - we're predators. Apex at that.

But sure, if you want to lose bulk and look like crap - go vegan - the sickliest of all diets, a mental affliction to be precise.

Do you know ANY vegan/vegetarian that looks healthy? That doesn't have bad skin, or even smells funny? Do a Google search for vegan or vegetarian and bad skin as well as bad smell.

Do you want me to tell you what I REALLY think about vegetarians and vegans? :-)
 
Turkey, chicken, pork and fish are the best meats and red meats such as beef should be in moderation (with fat trimmed)
 
I think @Devika is vegetarian? And we all know she looks phenomenal. But she seems to be a rare exception, most vegetarian/vegans to me look frail and not healthy, or happy. I think a balanced diet is ones best bet, quality meat with plenty of vegetables to compliment it. Being to far on either side of the spectrum just seems like a bad idea. Not knocking it since i have never tried it. Shit give it a shot though, if it isnt to your liking you can always go back.
 
Do you know ANY vegan/vegetarian that looks healthy? That doesn't have bad skin, or even smells funny? Do a Google search for vegan or vegetarian and bad skin as well as bad smell.

Hmm yes.
I am a vegetarian and I look fucking phenomenal.
I've never had any skin issue nor do I smell bad. Where the hell do you get your information from?
This is silly.


@CdnGuy, if this is something you want to try, you should totally do it.
Personally, it's not that I dislike the taste of meat, I became a vegetarian for moral reasons.
Yes, it's get a bit trickier when you're a bodybuilder eating a plant based diet, but totally doable.
I do eat eggs and milk products. They are a huge source of protein in my diet.
You can get protein from all kinds of beans, chickpeas, lentils, peas, quinoa, brown rice, oatmeal, seeds, nuts, nut butters, tofu, Greek yogurt, cottage cheese (any kind of cheese really) and vegetables. I do rely a lot on protein shakes, I usually have 2-3 per day.

Your macros may be a little different than what your used to eating meat. In order to meet my protein requirements my carbs tend to be high. However, they are all complex carbs. It would be nearly impossible to have a Keto or low carb diet. It has it's plus sides though, energy is always through the roof and all that natural fiber is excellent to lower bad cholesterol.

I commend you for wanting give it a try. Don't listen to all the haters. They have no idea what they're talking about. You can totally be a vegetarian/vegan juicer.
It requires discipline and may take a while to get used it. You'll body will love it though. I haven't looked back!

If you have any questions or need ideas for recipes, I'll be more than happy to help you :)

Bonne chance!
 
Hmm yes.
I am a vegetarian and I look fucking phenomenal.
I've never had any skin issue nor do I smell bad. Where the hell do you get your information from?
This is silly.


@CdnGuy, if this is something you want to try, you should totally do it.
Personally, it's not that I dislike the taste of meat, I became a vegetarian for moral reasons.
Yes, it's get a bit trickier when you're a bodybuilder eating a plant based diet, but totally doable.
I do eat eggs and milk products. They are a huge source of protein in my diet.
You can get protein from all kinds of beans, chickpeas, lentils, peas, quinoa, brown rice, oatmeal, seeds, nuts, nut butters, tofu, Greek yogurt, cottage cheese (any kind of cheese really) and vegetables. I do rely a lot on protein shakes, I usually have 2-3 per day.

Your macros may be a little different than what your used to eating meat. In order to meet my protein requirements my carbs tend to be high. However, they are all complex carbs. It would be nearly impossible to have a Keto or low carb diet. It has it's plus sides though, energy is always through the roof and all that natural fiber is excellent to lower bad cholesterol.

I commend you for wanting give it a try. Don't listen to all the haters. They have no idea what they're talking about. You can totally be a vegetarian/vegan juicer.
It requires discipline and may take a while to get used it. You'll body will love it though. I haven't looked back!

If you have any questions or need ideas for recipes, I'll be more than happy to help you :)

Bonne chance!
No I don't hate on the vegetarian/vegans but with all the stereotypes floating around with the likes of Vegan Gains yes haters will be hating even if they never tried the vegan diet.
 
I think if you don't have to, as in it is vital to your existence that you stop any and all meat, why would you do it? Eat fish I guess
 
Hmm yes.
I am a vegetarian and I look fucking phenomenal.
I've never had any skin issue nor do I smell bad. Where the hell do you get your information from?
This is silly.


@CdnGuy, if this is something you want to try, you should totally do it.
Personally, it's not that I dislike the taste of meat, I became a vegetarian for moral reasons.
Yes, it's get a bit trickier when you're a bodybuilder eating a plant based diet, but totally doable.
I do eat eggs and milk products. They are a huge source of protein in my diet.
You can get protein from all kinds of beans, chickpeas, lentils, peas, quinoa, brown rice, oatmeal, seeds, nuts, nut butters, tofu, Greek yogurt, cottage cheese (any kind of cheese really) and vegetables. I do rely a lot on protein shakes, I usually have 2-3 per day.

Your macros may be a little different than what your used to eating meat. In order to meet my protein requirements my carbs tend to be high. However, they are all complex carbs. It would be nearly impossible to have a Keto or low carb diet. It has it's plus sides though, energy is always through the roof and all that natural fiber is excellent to lower bad cholesterol.

I commend you for wanting give it a try. Don't listen to all the haters. They have no idea what they're talking about. You can totally be a vegetarian/vegan juicer.
It requires discipline and may take a while to get used it. You'll body will love it though. I haven't looked back!

If you have any questions or need ideas for recipes, I'll be more than happy to help you :)

Bonne chance!

It's fundamentally a flawed diet. Without at least fish, you're screwed.

Pure vegan and vegetarian diets aren't healthy, fact.

Google skin and other health issues - not just my experience.

Do what you like, it's your body.
 
It's called being open minded to new ideas or things tenpound. To call it rubbish is simply ignorant. Thats why I'm asking members who have actually made the transition and can share legit experiences good or bad

Being open minded is one thing but that article truly is a waste of server space. If you wish to try it go for it but make the choice based on correct reasoning and not the BS found in that article.
 
Clin Nutr Res. 2016 Apr;5(2):102-11.
Effects of 12-week Vegetarian Dieton the Nutritional Status, Stress Status and Bowel Habits in Middle School Students and Teachers.
Lee BR1, Ko YM1, Cho MH2, Yoon YR2, Kye SH3, Park YK4.

Abstract
This study investigated the effect of switching normal diet to vegetarian diet rich in vegetables and fruits for school foodservice and home meal on the nutritional status, bowel habit improvement and stress reduction of teachers and adolescents. A total of 40 research subjects (26 students, 14 teachers) from one middle school voluntarily participated in the research. Questionnaire surveys and blood analysis were conducted before and after a 12-week vegetarian diet period. The participants were asked on their dietary habit, bowel habit and stress measurement. After 12 weeks, reduction of BMI (kg/m(2)) in the students (p < 0.05) and reduction of TC (mg/dL) in both teachers and students (p < 0.05) were observed. Also reduction of LDL-C (mg/dL) was observed in the teachers (p < 0.05) whereas serum calcium and Vitamin B12 was increased in the students and teachers (p < 0.005). The teacher's stress level was reduced (p < 0.05) after the 12-week vegetarian diet. As for the changes in bowel habit, the number of the students and teachers classified as experiencing functional constipation was decreased respectively from 10 to 7, from 7 to 5. Based on the result, it is considered that thevegetarian diet rich in fruits and vegetables improved general health status of study subjects suggesting that such a dietary habit would substantially contribute to improving nutritional status and bowel habit.


Rocz Panstw Zakl Hig. 2014;65(1):9-14.
Health benefits and risk associated with adopting a vegetarian diet.
Pilis W, Stec K, Zych M, Pilis A.

Abstract
A vegetarian diet may be adopted for various reasons that can include ecological, economic, religious, ethical and health considerations. In the latter case they arise from the desire to lose weight, in tackling obesity, improving physical fitness and/or in reducing the risk of acquiring certain diseases. It has been shown that properly applied vegetarian diet is the most effective way of reducing body mass (expressed as BMI), improving the plasma lipid profile and in decreasing the incidence of high arterial blood pressure, cardiovascular disease, stroke, metabolic syndrome and arteriosclerosis. In addition, improved insulin sensitivity together with lower rates of diabetes and cancer has been observed. Some studies have however found that avegetarian diet may result in changes adversely affecting the body. These could include; hyperhomocysteinaemia, protein deficiency, anaemia, decreased creatinine content in muscles and menstrual disruption in women who undertake increased physical activity. Some of these changes may decrease the ability for performing activities that require physical effort. Nevertheless, on balance it can be reasonably concluded that the beneficial effects of a vegetarian dietsignificantly, by far, outweigh the adverse ones. It should also be noted that the term 'vegetarian diet' is not always clearly defined in the literature and it may include many dietary variations.


[Below is a link to the full text of The AHA:]

“Fleshing Out” the Benefits of Adopting a Vegetarian Diet

JAHA: Journal of the American Heart Association
 
Pure vegan and vegetarian diets aren't healthy, fact.

Got literature to support this? This really seems like an antiquated statement to me.

I know several vegans and vegetarians and they are extremely healthy individuals.

@CdnGuy you should give it a try for a little while and see how it goes. I tried it for about a week and a half once as a test of will more than anything. It was exhausting coming up with meatless dishes but the ingredients Devika laid out are great staples. After a few days go by you start to feel fantastic, wonderful energy and wellbeing. The leanest I've ever been actually now that I think about it. The experiment ended with a grilled organic grass fed steak from a local butcher and that was fantastic-er < it's a word.
 
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