I would like to see some progress...gotta get hooked a little bit.
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Powerlifting and muscle building
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Are you starting a blast for this or just cruising or natty currently?
I am always on TRT. Doctor prescribed 200 mg. Test C every 6 days. I started a little blast though a week ago. 400mg DHB 300 Test C. weekly
Definitely want weekly progression then. Add weight every week and really push your numbers up on this cycle. Adding 50+ pounds on lower body lifts should be easy.
That would be sweet! Have any of you guys that are powerlifting ever considered running a bodybuilding program after a while? Would the strength have carryover
I've planned to do bodybuilding stuff after meets several times. I always end up going heavy again within weeks though. I just don't enjoy that style of training much. What I have better luck with is switching my comp lifts for other stuff and strength train them instead. Like swap low bar back squat to front squat or sumo deadlift for trap bar deadlift or bench for overhead press. Stuff like that.
I'm seriously considering hiring a bodybuilding coach after this next one. If I'm paying for it and following someone else I know I'll stick with it. My body really needs the break in the off season. I got a lot of aches and pains. Not interested in doing bodybuilding shows or anything, but I like being lean and looking good.
As far as carryover I mean in theory a bigger muscle has potential to be a stronger muscle. I think for the sake of longevity you'd be better off doing bodybuilding or at least compound lifts in the higher rep ranges most of the year and just hit it hard for strength leading into a meet. Also work on weak points in the off season. You don't really lose anything when you're doing that kind of stuff in the off season. You just kinda lose the ability to demonstrate it because you become unaccustomed to heavy weight, but it comes back quick once you return to that style of training.
I've seen powerlifters that have gone to bodybuilding and cut some of the excess weight...there's a density in the muscle that I don't think you can achieve any other way. That makes sense, though. Muscle memory and CNS memory. I want to build that base. I want to lift some really heavy fucking weights
Worf
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I did a body building routine (High Reps, super sets, machines, timed rest etc). Still hit the comp lifts but was going 15-20 reps with light weight. This was for a couple months earlier in the year after 6-8 months of solid powerlifting style. I lost a few lbs and helped recover some injuries. Came back strong and ready to go. I might do it again after my blast ends in October/November
Btcowboy
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Subbed on this thread and your log if and when you start one. I am contemplating the same thing. I cant hold back at the gym and always want to push the weight up at least all but BP.
531 is a variant of conjugate. He trained at westside and worked for Dave Tate. It adds in AMRAP which we do similar, ours are lifts for time. 3 min of 80lb dumbbells is a killer on bench. I take from 531 sometimes as I find westside to beat me down sometimes overtrain and miss peaks. Just doing a 3 sets of 5 @ 80% on ME day once a month instead of just working up to a single on main lift variant saves my CNS and joints. Dave Tate uses triples a lot in his programming instead of singles. Biceps and calves do get neglected along with chest some doing powerlifting only. I do curls and flys, cable and dumbbell as feeder workouts. I do neglect my caves. Main reason being I don’t have a calf machine and don’t want to stress my shoulders any more than I have to putting heavy bar on them.
I really like using AMRAPs on my heavy days. With working up to a triple or a double I'll try to beat my last numbers and end up missing reps. With an AMRAP there's really no way to fail.
I’m lucky being in central Ohio I have the master (Louie Simmons) and 2 of his top students (Dave Tate, and Matt Wenning) all within an hour drive from me. I get to see what they are doing and don’t pay shipping on their products lol. I will never be a full timer at Westside they are on another level, but I listen to every piece of advice I get from anyone who gives it.
Worf
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how frequently you do amraps, I havent done any outside accessories in a while
I do the same on timed lifts I try to make more reps or more time. Once I get to 3 min I go up 5 lb.
I do 2 sets for time which is my version of AMRAP every max effort day. On Dynamic Effort days there is a lot of volume already so it may be hard to recover from in 24 hours.
I rotate a speed day, reps day, and heavy day for the main lifts. The AMRAP would take the place of the heavy day. So one week would be deadlift AMRAP, the next the next bench, and the third squat, then repeat. Haven't done them on bench or squat lately since I've been doing Smolov and until recently doing front squat as my main squat.
I tried that briefly with belt squat doing 60 second sets after reading a Westside article.
Yes for low body Belt Squats, and Reverse Hypers are the best choices. Zerchener squats with the rig is also a good one. Don’t do a movement that puts a bar on your shoulders it’s just too high impact and will beat down your elbows too. 3 minute ATP marches are common in westside now days.
Belt squats really helped me break through a long plateau at 600lbs on deadlift. And high rep dumbbell glute bridges against bands.
I'm finding that about keeping the bar off my shoulders when I can to be true. Keeps the low back recovered. Low bar squats I really only do near a meet. Outside of that it's mostly high bar and front squats.
I'm finding that about keeping the bar off my shoulders when I can to be true. Keeps the low back recovered. Low bar squats I really only do near a meet. Outside of that it's mostly high bar and front squats.
Yea I’m at that 600 plateau myself. Seems things really slow down on deadlift when you hit 600. On a good day 625 is doable. I hit 605 last January and have only added 20lb since.
I pulled my first 600lbs in January 2016 and was stuck there until the middle of last year. When I added belt squats, glute bridges, and really worked on form I hit 650lbs pretty fast and 675lbs a couple months later. Then had an injury setback this January and couldn't pull for a few months. I feel stronger than ever currently and feel 700lbs is definitely there.
