lacking shoulders - What helped you grow them when they werent?

[broschmo]

Well there’s shoulder joint where the humerus meets the scapula. You can easily get over use issues that lead to more serious shoulder problems.
Your point 2 I literally said that dipshit.
i didn’t suggest anything but if you’re training shoulders 4x a week you’re not training them hard enough. Volume is NOT the primary driver of hypertrophy. Those studies literally all show that progressive overload and effort is. Get Mike’s dick out of your mouth. I am enhanced and you doubt it because you’re to worried about an arbitrary rir of doesn’t fucking matter. Volume is needed to make up for lack of effort. Train harder. Get more out of your sets instead of wasting time and energy on more sets. There’s more than just muscles you retard there are joints. Good luck with your rotator cuff in the future.
Stop talking about anything to do with enhanced you have no experience with gear so just stop. How old are you anyway?

My rotator cuff is fine, don't worry.
I study, I do not need Mike's dick anywhere but you sure as hell have it in your fingertips, you salty cunt.

You're talking out of your ass. How many people have you met that got injured doing fucking lateral raises? Unless you're throwing your shit around, using your glutes, you're not going to fuck up your gleno-umeral joint by doing 3-4 sets of lateral raises every other day.

Speaking a lot of shit about my training when you know fuck all about how I train.
I also am not enhanced and never got overuse problems by training shoulders 3-4 times a week.

I am not interested in debating you about if volume is or isn't the primary driver of hypertrophy because I never said it was, nor have I said anything about RIR/RPE. And there are plenty of studies we both can cherry pick to justify our statements.

Using volume has a tool to stimulate more muscle growth and more chances for muscle protein synthesis does not impede progressive overload. Progressive overload can be achieved in an array of different manners, it is not only dictated by weight on bar.

Is doing 5 sets instead of 4 not a form of progressive overload? Is doing 15 reps instead of 12 not progressive overload?

Take a chill pill, brofessor.

EDIT - Just noticed you asked about my age, says a lot about your priorities. I'm 27, been studying sport's science the last 2 years and will apply for a NSCA certification this year.
Show us your enhanced physique, brah

 

[FR0Z3N_B0MB3RRR]

My rotator cuff is fine, don't worry.
I study, I do not need Mike's dick anywhere but you sure as hell have it in your fingertips, you salty cunt.

You're talking out of your ass. How many people have you met that got injured doing fucking lateral raises? Unless you're throwing your shit around, using your glutes, you're not going to fuck up your gleno-umeral joint by doing 3-4 sets of lateral raises every other day.

Speaking a lot of shit about my training when you know fuck all about how I train.
I also am not enhanced and never got overuse problems by training shoulders 3-4 times a week.

I am not interested in debating you about if volume is or isn't the primary driver of hypertrophy because I never said it was, nor have I said anything about RIR/RPE. And there are plenty of studies we both can cherry pick to justify our statements.

Using volume has a tool to stimulate more muscle growth and more chances for muscle protein synthesis does not impede progressive overload. Progressive overload can be achieved in an array of different manners, it is not only dictated by weight on bar.

Is doing 5 sets instead of 4 not a form of progressive overload? Is doing 15 reps instead of 12 not progressive overload?

Take a chill pill, brofessor.

EDIT - Just noticed you asked about my age, says a lot about your priorities. I'm 27, been studying sport's science the last 2 years and will apply for a NSCA certification this year.
Show us your enhanced physique, brah

why, if you re not enhanced, are here?

hope you re planning to get to the dark side, otherwise man… there’s something wrong… post tit pics, incentive third part tests, its not friday (its saturday) or GTFO, thanks

 

[NLM36]

My rotator cuff is fine, don't worry.
I study, I do not need Mike's dick anywhere but you sure as hell have it in your fingertips, you salty cunt.

You're talking out of your ass. How many people have you met that got injured doing fucking lateral raises? Unless you're throwing your shit around, using your glutes, you're not going to fuck up your gleno-umeral joint by doing 3-4 sets of lateral raises every other day.

Speaking a lot of shit about my training when you know fuck all about how I train.
I also am not enhanced and never got overuse problems by training shoulders 3-4 times a week.

I am not interested in debating you about if volume is or isn't the primary driver of hypertrophy because I never said it was, nor have I said anything about RIR/RPE. And there are plenty of studies we both can cherry pick to justify our statements.

Using volume has a tool to stimulate more muscle growth and more chances for muscle protein synthesis does not impede progressive overload. Progressive overload can be achieved in an array of different manners, it is not only dictated by weight on bar.

Is doing 5 sets instead of 4 not a form of progressive overload? Is doing 15 reps instead of 12 not progressive overload?

Take a chill pill, brofessor.

EDIT - Just noticed you asked about my age, says a lot about your priorities. I'm 27, been studying sport's science the last 2 years and will apply for a NSCA certification this year.
Show us your enhanced physique, brah

I’m 36 been training since I was 18. Your rotator cuff is fine now, just wait. I’ve met plenty of people who have shoulder problems from overuse and strains. More volume is wasted effort.
Your degrees mean shit. Real world experience over anything in a class room.

let see yours

 

[broschmo]

I’m 36 been training since I was 18. Your rotator cuff is fine now, just wait. I’ve met plenty of people who have shoulder problems from overuse and strains. More volume is wasted effort.
Your degrees mean shit. Real world experience over anything in a class room.

let see yours

Oh yeah, sure.
Something magical will happen in the next 8 years to my shoulder joint.
I had rotator cuff issues when I did MMA/Kickboxing.
Also when I first started benching.

Never, ever, have I had shoulder pain doing lateral raises. Nor have I met anyone who does. I can't even see how doing lateral raises puts stress in your rotator cuff.

You're just blowing smoke but we can agree to disagree, no biggie.

Me after a small cut to prime myself for my first mini-blast later this month:

 

[broschmo]

why, if you re not enhanced, are here?

hope you re planning to get to the dark side, otherwise man… there’s something wrong… post tit pics, incentive third part tests, its not friday (its saturday) or GTFO, thanks

Well, you could just ask me before being an asshole or just check my post history.

I'm doing my first blast later this month, just waiting for my shit to get here as I will be home brewing.

 

[NLM36]

Oh yeah, sure.
Something magical will happen in the next 8 years to my shoulder joint.
I had rotator cuff issues when I did MMA/Kickboxing.
Also when I first started benching.

Never, ever, have I had shoulder pain doing lateral raises. Nor have I met anyone who does. I can't even see how doing lateral raises puts stress in your rotator cuff.

You're just blowing smoke but we can agree to disagree, no biggie.

Me after a small cut to prime myself for my first mini-blast later this month:

I’m not blowing smoke. It happens from overuse not from doing an exercise wrong. You’re 27 with an average physique giving advice on how to grow. You have degrees not experience. Just wait until you get older. There’s a good chance it will catch up with you.

 

[FR0Z3N_B0MB3RRR]

Well, you could just ask me before being an asshole or just check my post history.

I'm doing my first blast later this month, just waiting for my shit to get here as I will be home brewing.

asshole? Ahaha… i was kidding… i told you what its commonly used to vet and make fun of people tryng to source here… dont you think “incentive third part test” was clearly out of context ?

 

[broschmo]

I’m not blowing smoke. It happens from overuse not from doing an exercise wrong. You’re 27 with an average physique giving advice on how to grow. You have degrees not experience. Just wait until you get older. There’s a good chance it will catch up with you.

I could say the same about your physique, buddy. Especially if you are in fact enhanced.

Exercising a joint through it's correct range of motion will not cause overuse if volume and intensity is properly managed.

I refuse to adhere to the nocebo "human body frailty" narrative you're spouting as it is founded in fear, not science.

 

[broschmo]

asshole? Ahaha… i was kidding… i told you what its commonly used to vet and make fun of people tryng to source here… dont you think “incentive third part test” was clearly out of context ?

Sorry brother, couldn't find the sarcasm in your comment. Shit's hard on the internet, haha.

Stay strong.

 

[Forthewin1123]

Like alot of guys habe said here already volume volume volume.. mine were lagging as well.. I was running ppl.. inwoukd have 2 push days a week and 2 pull days a week.. .. 1push day I start with chest end with shoulders.. 2nd I'd start shoulders end with chest.. I would do 4 shoulder exercises 3-4 sets each.. presses.. heavy 6-10 rep range .. delts high reps. 20-30.. 4 sets.. on pull days and leg days at the end.of work out I would do side delts on cables 3 set high reps.. 20-30.. I was hitting shoulders all week.. after about a month I had really grew them.. there so many ways to do.them.. volume seems to be the trick though.. good. Luck

 

[broschmo]

Like alot of guys habe said here already volume volume volume.. mine were lagging as well.. I was running ppl.. inwoukd have 2 push days a week and 2 pull days a week.. .. 1push day I start with chest end with shoulders.. 2nd I'd start shoulders end with chest.. I would do 4 shoulder exercises 3-4 sets each.. presses.. heavy 6-10 rep range .. delts high reps. 20-30.. 4 sets.. on pull days and leg days at the end.of work out I would do side delts on cables 3 set high reps.. 20-30.. I was hitting shoulders all week.. after about a month I had really grew them.. there so many ways to do.them.. volume seems to be the trick though.. good. Luck

Beware, bro, @NLM36 says you can lose an arm doing that.

You will be fighting for your life, brother, lifting weights is a very high risk endeavour!

 

[FR0Z3N_B0MB3RRR]

I could say the same about your physique, buddy. Especially if you are in fact enhanced.

Exercising a joint through it's correct range of motion will not cause overuse if volume and intensity is properly managed.

I refuse to adhere to the nocebo "human body frailty" narrative you're spouting as it is founded in fear, not science.

well lot of times people get injured doing side lateral because they intra rotate their shoulders… something that happens in dumbbells press too if arms are forming a 90 or more degrees angle.. and in other excercise too

 

[NLM36]

Beware, bro, @NLM36 says you can lose an arm doing that.

You will be fighting for your life, brother, lifting weights is a very high risk endeavour!

I didn’t say you could lose your arm. I said training your shoulders 4x a week over time will fuck your shoulders up. Now stop giving advice on how to grow when you can’t even apply it to yourself. Where are you shoulders or any muscle?

 

[broschmo]

well lot of times people get injured doing side lateral because they intra rotate their shoulders… something that happens in dumbbells press too if arms are forming a 90 or more degrees angle.. and in other excercise too

I agree but, as I said, the problem there is not training frequency but technique.

 

[FR0Z3N_B0MB3RRR]

Very worth watching it


View: https://youtu.be/biKT7pTWVKI

 

[NLM36]

I agree but, as I said, the problem there is not training frequency but technique.

God you’re retarded. It’s always the guys who don’t even have a physique trying to tell others how to build one.

 

[broschmo]

I didn’t say you could lose your arm. I said training your shoulders 4x a week over time will fuck your shoulders up. Now stop giving advice on how to grow when you can’t even apply it to yourself.

Sure, bro, don't tell anyone you've been training for 18 years. Shit's embaracing.

Doing lateral raises 4 times a week is definitely a dangerous practice.
Very high risk.

If you're not happy with the results of training with max effort twice a week, I guess just fuck trying other stuff, right, brother? You just don't have the "gEnEtIcS".

 

[broschmo]

God you’re retarded. It’s always the guys who don’t even have a physique trying to tell others how to build one.

Keep at it with the ad hominem.
It's not my fault you're a scared little bitch.

My body is not a piece of porcelain, sorry if you're not impressed by my physique. Feeling is mutual.

If I don't get a better physique than yours by the end of the year please tell me to stop.

 

[NLM36]

Keep at it with the ad hominem.
It's not my fault you're a scared little bitch.

My body is not a piece of porcelain, sorry if you're not impressed by my physique. Feeling is mutual.

If I don't get a better physique than yours by the end of the year please tell me to stop.

you have no development. Stop saying you have a physique

 

[NLM36]

Sure, bro, don't tell anyone you've been training for 18 years. Shit's embaracing.

Doing lateral raises 4 times a week is definitely a dangerous practice.
Very high risk.

If you're not happy with the results of training with max effort twice a week, I guess just fuck trying other stuff, right, brother? You just don't have the "gEnEtIcS".

You haven’t tried anything consistently enough to know if it works or not