Kratom

[CompoundLifts31]

So if taking 10 g for 4 days, should i still do like a 3 g taper? I am trying for minimal crappiness. If thats possible.


I know this might sound ridiculous since its such a short period of time. Being only 5 days total. But i have experience where doing 4 days of something lead to bad withdrawals.

Go 8 grams, then 6, then 4, then 2 then eitjer down to one or none.

 

[jJjburton]

Go 8 grams, then 6, then 4, then 2 then eitjer down to one or none.

Ok thanks man...will do

 

[BigDaddyV]

As far as appetite suppression I would say it still takes away the hunger pangs. I guess it takes that away and makes me focus on other things or want to do the required cardio so it’s win win.

Right that’s exactly what it does for me and works instantaneously but I can still eat just as much I just don’t experience hunger pangs. I guess if I was trying to eat less it would help but I haven’t tried

 

[BigDaddyV]

It seems to make me eat more. It gives a great energy boost, mentally, where i can review and study for my certifications and retain information quite well.
Kind of like adderall, but without the crazy sex drive i get from adderall, where i become way to hypersexual, which then i wont do work anymore and watch porn. Thus does me no good.

this is scary because when something is used to boost performance it can have some drawbacks.

It can, yes but I typically go from kratom to caffeine and that prevents the low energy. Kratom also alleviates any caffeine withdrawal symptoms so I like to alternate between the two as performance enhancers. And by performance I mean overall daily performance not necessarily pre workout

 

[BigDaddyV]

So if taking 10 g for 4 days, should i still do like a 3 g taper? I am trying for minimal crappiness. If thats possible.


I know this might sound ridiculous since its such a short period of time. Being only 5 days total. But i have experience where doing 4 days of something lead to bad withdrawals.

Yeah 4 days of hard opiate use will give you withdrawal but in my personal experience a week of kratom use doesn’t lead to withdrawal.
I have abused opiates in my past so I could have some sort of a tolerance don’t take what I say to be 100% true for you but I’ve gone as long as two weeks straight and just switched to caffeine like I previously stated and I was fine. No noticeable withdrawal symptoms

 

[BigDaddyV]

It have heard horror stories for sure but I’ve also tapered slowly to 0 and noticed minimal symptoms, only that I didn’t feel as good as I did while using kratom. My daily doses aren’t super high either (10-20g) but I have heard of people using 50 grams and day then stopping cold Turkey and having some really horrible withdrawals.

Life with kids, a career, and training is really stressful and I am a better person to everyone with Kratom. It’s sort of like AAS, you weigh the positives and negatives and make your choise

I am a responsible user just like with AAS and the past 3 years bloodwork shows no issues.
When life settles down I am confident I can just taper slowly again and be done with it.

You can. The taper method works very well. I’ve stopped and started again multiple times over the past two years. If I had experienced negative withdrawal symptoms I wouldn’t keep going back lol

 

[CompoundLifts31]

It can, yes but I typically go from kratom to caffeine and that prevents the low energy. Kratom also alleviates any caffeine withdrawal symptoms so I like to alternate between the two as performance enhancers. And by performance I mean overall daily performance not necessarily pre workout

They're from the same family so that makes perfect sense. Didn't even think of that. I still feel a little lethargy when going from caffeine to kratom, but not as bad when using caffeine.

 

[slyfox115]

Right that’s exactly what it does for me and works instantaneously but I can still eat just as much I just don’t experience hunger pangs. I guess if I was trying to eat less it would help but I haven’t tried

This is sort of "woo woo" but I am the same. No hunger pangs but if I decided to eat I could eat a large amount. I guess the motivation/energy I get from it makes me NOT want to eat if I am in a fat loss phase. I get some straight up positivity from it along with that energy. I am thinking not everyone will experience this but I must be a dark and cynical person genetically ....kratom evens that out.

 

[jJjburton]

On a very low dose tren run, 280 mg, 1-2 weeks left, however many doses i have left. Sleeping fine and working out so hard, with great results, eating good. But holy hell tren makes my restless leg syndrome so bad, i took an extremely low dose of ktom to help and it did for the day. Only 2-3 grams. Which was nice but only doing that 1-2x a week. Until the tren is over.

When i stop tren and the restless leg syndrome goes away, in 3 days.

 

[jJjburton]

Came off ktom very easily 1 week at 10 gs, then took one 5 gram day, felt fine the next day. Maybe some tiredness but was fine.

 

[BigDaddyV]

Came off ktom very easily 1 week at 10 gs, then took one 5 gram day, felt fine the next day. Maybe some tiredness but was fine.

See you gotta learn how you react to it. As long as you aren’t dosing multiple times a day for a month or so you’ll be good in my opinion

 

[jJjburton]

10 g is too much too. That is not needed, 4-5 g a dose felt perfect with no headaches.

See you gotta learn how you react to it. As long as you aren’t dosing multiple times a day for a month or so you’ll be good in my opinion

 

[jJjburton]

See you gotta learn how you react to it. As long as you aren’t dosing multiple times a day for a month or so you’ll be good in my opinion

I hate using another substance to counteract sides from the first substance, but i only have a little bit left of tren and the results are so good.

 

[jJjburton]

See you gotta learn how you react to it. As long as you aren’t dosing multiple times a day for a month or so you’ll be good in my opinion

I have to be very weery due to my addictive nature, soon 1 week turns into 2 months and then i am screwed. So i never buy in bulk.

 

[BigDaddyV]

I have to be very weery due to my addictive nature, soon 1 week turns into 2 months and then i am screwed. So i never buy in bulk.

You’re a smart man. I’ve always been capable of doing a few days on a few days off but if I lost that and caught myself going a month or two straight I’d have to cut it off.
I’d say my daily dose is somewhere around 7-8 grams now I started around 2.5-5 but over a couple years of on and off use it’s increased. I have a couple friends that take either 10grams at once or around 12 spread out in 4 gram doses I guess it’s really a person to person thing

 

[jJjburton]

So kratom definitly makes it harder to cum. It also affected my erection when taking very close to sex. I could not get hard. But when taking 8 hours prior i was hard but could not cum.

How long from a dose do these side effects last?

if i take it this morning 4 grams. Would i be good by tomorrow night?
What about tonight?

I litterally could not cum and just stayed hard. Which is ok.

 

[jJjburton]

You’re a smart man. I’ve always been capable of doing a few days on a few days off but if I lost that and caught myself going a month or two straight I’d have to cut it off.
I’d say my daily dose is somewhere around 7-8 grams now I started around 2.5-5 but over a couple years of on and off use it’s increased. I have a couple friends that take either 10grams at once or around 12 spread out in 4 gram doses I guess it’s really a person to person thing

I have done both 10 g dose and 4 g. But 10 g was just a instant headache. 4 g seems to give energy but not to much, where you talk too much.

 

[BigDaddyV]

So kratom definitly makes it harder to cum. It also affected my erection when taking very close to sex. I could not get hard. But when taking 8 hours prior i was hard but could not cum.

How long from a dose do these side effects last?

if i take it this morning 4 grams. Would i be good by tomorrow night?
What about tonight?

I litterally could not cum and just stayed hard. Which is ok.

I don’t have this issue and I’m on tren and been taking kratom. I’d say it probably goes away with experience. An extreme example is opiates. An opiate naive person won’t be able to cum while on opiates but someone with experience in these drugs typically can.

also, cialis helps I think lol

 

[BigDaddyV]

I have done both 10 g dose and 4 g. But 10 g was just a instant headache. 4 g seems to give energy but not to much, where you talk too much.

What strains have you been using?
I got some red in today that’s pretty nice and very relaxing. I typically go for the more energetic ones but I’m enjoying this one I dosed probably two hours ago and it’s had a steady buzz since about 30 minutes in

 

[jJjburton]

What strains have you been using?
I got some red in today that’s pretty nice and very relaxing. I typically go for the more energetic ones but I’m enjoying this one I dosed probably two hours ago and it’s had a steady buzz since about 30 minutes in

Green thai