END OF 2025 BEST CYCLE THREAD!

[RocketSurge0n]

Give you insomnia and night sweats? It's a tool used exclusively for contest bodybuilders

You are severely limiting yourself with this mindset. My coach utilizes it often. I haven’t competed yet but I will be at some point.

 

[IndividualMan]

You are severely limiting yourself with this mindset. My coach utilizes it often. I haven’t competed yet but I will be at some point.

most coaches like tren. makes your clients feel like they are progressing/getting better, but often times it is unneeded/unwise to use it.
A coach in france whom I know is really fond of tren, to the point where he tells clients to do full offseasons + multiple shows while continously on Tren.
In his words "It makes them (the clients) see results and makes my part of the job easier. I dont have tto do much when they take tren."

Definitely works, but they probably could have gotten similar/better results if they had been more conservative with the tren. I would always be weary of coaches who are telling everyone that they like using tren/ recommend tren more than the normal amount needed in BBing.

 

[explodingHeart]

You are severely limiting yourself with this mindset. My coach utilizes it often. I haven’t competed yet but I will be at some point.

Or it's just a shitty drug

RockyP made an insane panic thread on how var was insidious and not safe at all, then he's running var + drol + tren, none of which are going to add fuck all mass unless you intend to somehow run them for months.

 

[RocketSurge0n]

most coaches like tren. makes your clients feel like they are progressing/getting better, but often times it is unneeded/unwise to use it.
A coach in france whom I know is really fond of tren, to the point where he tells clients to do full offseasons + multiple shows while continously on Tren.
In his words "It makes them (the clients) see results and makes my part of the job easier. I dont have tto do much when they take tren."

Definitely works, but they probably could have gotten similar/better results if they had been more conservative with the tren. I would always be weary of coaches who are telling everyone that they like using tren/ recommend tren more than the normal amount needed in BBing.

I get where you’re coming from. Your buddy sounds like a shit coach. Luckily my coach is fantastic and we subscribe to minimum effective dose. I’ve never utilized it in a bulk and think nobody needs to go over 100mg IMO. At the end of the day if you’re on the road to a pro card you’ll do whatever it takes. To each their own.

 

[IndividualMan]

I get where you’re coming from. Your buddy sounds like a shit coach. Luckily my coach is fantastic and we subscribe to minimum effective dose. I’ve never utilized it in a bulk and think nobody needs to go over 100mg IMO. At the end of the day if you’re on the road to a pro card you’ll do whatever it takes. To each their own.

Not my buddy. I simply have the misfortune of knowing him.
Minimum effectiv edose is a viable approach, especially when it comes to tren/19-nors in general