Can you tell me anything about brojobs?

[MairUnderwood(Researcher)]

He made it sound like it was very common. It's not in the states, well, not in professional circles.

I had an American woman in the audience when I presented at a conference on zyzz, she said she nearly fainted when I said cunt so often. It doesn't have the same impact here in oz

 

[Millard]

I did a recent one on steroid harm reduction which is based on the paper I reference millard in (it's very long though so either listen while you are doing something or read the description and just skip to the bits you are interested in).

That is very cool - thanks!

I've really enjoyed your field of research ever since I read Alan Klein's ethnography about bodybuilders and Samuel Wilson Fussell's Muscle (although not academic) in the 1990s.

I don't remember if those works addressed the "brojob" phenomena. But what was addressed, and did seem somewhat "common", was the sex between men that involved at least one self-identifying straight.

Those experiences, often g4p and/or muscle worship, are all over the place when it comes to pro bodybuilding and even non-competitive bodybuilding.

I remember Dan Duchaine would review gay porn featuring competitive bodybuilders and identify the straight bbers from the gay ones.

 

[Millard]

This is a good, quick video where Mair introduces herself, explains what she is attempting to do throughout the body building community and why.

Where did the video go?

 

[MairUnderwood(Researcher)]

Where did the video go?

They suspended my YouTube stil trying to find out why

 

[MairUnderwood(Researcher)]

That is very cool - thanks!

I've really enjoyed your field of research ever since I read Alan Klein's ethnography about bodybuilders and Samuel Wilson Fussell's Muscle (although not academic) in the 1990s.

I don't remember if those works addressed the "brojob" phenomena. But what was addressed, and did seem somewhat "common", was the sex between men that involved at least one self-identifying straight.

Those experiences, often g4p and/or muscle worship, are all over the place when it comes to pro bodybuilding and even non-competitive bodybuilding.

I remember Dan Duchaine would review gay porn featuring competitive bodybuilders and identify the straight bbers from the gay ones.

I wasn't so keen on the judgemental nature of Klein's stuff. I'm not sure it's as simplistic as he made out. I also enjoyed Fussell. Got more insight from that then from most academic works.
Might have to look back at some of this old stuff about the homoeroticism of bodybuilding, hustling etc. Brojobs are probably just a recent manifestation of the same old tension that results when men look at each other. What do you think?

 

[Millard]

I wasn't so keen on the judgemental nature of Klein's stuff. I'm not sure it's as simplistic as he made out. I also enjoyed Fussell. Got more insight from that then from most academic works.
Might have to look back at some of this old stuff about the homoeroticism of bodybuilding, hustling etc.

I need to read more on those topics. I find the drugs and sex in bodybuilding very interesting in real life but nothing beats the academic treatment of the topic in an attempt to explain it all.

Brojobs are probably just a recent manifestation of the same old tension that results when men look at each other. What do you think?

It's bodybuilding. The admiration of the male physique inspires awe and respect but also conflict and confusion that requires the 'no homo' disclaimer. But then apparently all is good.

 

[Millard]

They suspended my YouTube stil trying to find out why

Now I really want to know what I missed on that video

 

[legendary]

Don’t make eye contact, don’t talk about it after, oh and if any bros go camping and wake up with a used rubber in your ass would you tell anyone?

 

[MairUnderwood(Researcher)]

Now I really want to know what I missed on that video

They still haven't told me. Just that I had repeatedly violated the community guidelines. I think it would have been copyright infringement. I did some research on Zyzz in the past and made a video about it which used clips from other Zyzz videos. I always credited the original video but maybe that wasn't enough. Unless they thought my stuff on steroid harm reduction was encouraging use or something. Who knows. I wish they would bloody hurry up and tell me.
P.S. the video that was posted here was just me talking about how I want to support bodybuilders to reduce the harms of their use. No nudity, violence or anything exciting. Probably some swearing (I am Australian after all) but I think you can swear in Youtube videos

 

[ickyrica]

Lol at no homo. I've said that to my wife when showing her progress pics of some of these meso fellas.

 

[SteroidsBro]

You can't give another man a blowjob if you're straight unless you're being paid. Then it's ok. You're fine as long as nobody knows.

 

[Sworder]

It's funny because this lady is taking the jokes about brojobs literally. She actually thinks we are gay. Listen to her interview and they way she talks about brojobs, she already knows what it is but plays clueless.

 

[MairUnderwood(Researcher)]

It's funny because this lady is taking the jokes about brojobs literally. She actually thinks we are gay. Listen to her interview and they way she talks about brojobs, she already knows what it is but plays clueless.

There are some who do practice this, for most it's a joke, but I'm keen to understand both the humor and the practice. Anything you can add?

 

[Sworder]

There are some who do practice this, for most it's a joke, but I'm keen to understand both the humor and the practice. Anything you can add?

This cannot be science...

I already told you about the [homo]sexuality. I am not going to be pestering you excessively. It is extremely painful reading your posts and how people are responding however. Why don't you go full disclosure instead of this stupid game of acting like you know nothing?

Post your rough draft and people will write the paper for you. Without this stupid cat and mouse game that you are playing.. Zyzz had that big of an impact in AUS huh?

 

[MairUnderwood(Researcher)]

That's because they are GAY! You are painting our whole community with this homosexuality which is incorrect.

I already told you about the [homo]sexuality. I am not going to be pestering you excessively. It is extremely painful reading your posts and how people are responding however. Why don't you go full disclosure instead of this stupid game of acting like you know nothing?

Post your rough draft and people will write the paper for you. Without this stupid cat and mouse game that you are playing.. Zyzz had that big of an impact in AUS huh?

I never said everyone did it, I think it's probably a tiny minority.
Zyzz had a huge impact and not just in Australia but all over the world, he's particularly popular in Brazil and India.
I'm not sure I understand what you mean by cat and mouse? I'm trying to learn, I don't do that by telling people what I'm thinking may be the case as I could be wrong and/ or it could color their responses.
If it is so painful why do you keep reading them? Are you a masochist?

 

[Sworder]

I never said everyone did it, I think it's probably a tiny minority.

No please stop, at least not on this forum. Brojobs must be a very elaborate thing on whatever forum you heard it on. But I will speak for all of us when I say. We have never seen or heard of BROJOBS before!!!

I'm not sure I understand what you mean by cat and mouse? I'm trying to learn, I don't do that by telling people what I'm thinking may be the case as I could be wrong and/ or it could color their responses.
If it is so painful why do you keep reading them? Are you a masochist?

I am not sure you really want to get into an argument with me regarding logic?
BUT if you want to play that game. Why don't you fill out the form to the best of your ability and we will let you know as a group what is correct and what isn't correct?
It is painful but I can't stop myself. I mean, I did listen to your whole interview, I am a pretty meticulous guy.

P.S. I actually do like your personality and understand your perspective as a researcher and all that you know

Also, I really love that forward projecting logic in your response, you predicted my best argument correctly. Sexy...

 

[MairUnderwood(Researcher)]

No please stop, at least not on this forum. Brojobs must be a very elaborate thing on whatever forum you heard it on. But I will speak for all of us when I say. We have never seen or heard of BROJOBS before!!!

I am not sure you really want to get into an argument with me regarding logic?
BUT if you want to play that game. Why don't you fill out the form to the best of your ability and we will let you know as a group what is correct and what isn't correct?
It is painful but I can't stop myself. I mean, I did listen to your whole interview, I am a pretty meticulous guy.

P.S. I actually do like your personality and understand your perspective as a researcher and all that you know

I'm not getting far with the brojob topic anyway so I'm probably going to have to let it go.
I actually do what you suggest. I observe and talk to people, get my ideas together and circulate drafts of my parties or videos and get feedback from the community.
If you like my personality and my research why do you talk to me in the way you do? Upped the tren?

 

[MairUnderwood(Researcher)]

I'm not getting far with the brojob topic anyway so I'm probably going to have to let it go.
I actually do what you suggest. I observe and talk to people, get my ideas together and circulate drafts of my parties or videos and get feedback from the community.
If you like my personality and my research why do you talk to me in the way you do? Upped the tren?

Papers not parties. Fuckin auto correct

 

[Sworder]

I'm trying to learn, I don't do that by telling people what I'm thinking may be the case as I could be wrong and/ or it could color their responses.

I dare to comment again on that response! This was so brilliant of you, I really feel like I have met my match

Papers not parties. Fuckin auto correct

I didn't go so far to say that I liked your research! I would say that is very unfair to say that. No, no tren for me. To be honest I can think a lot clearly off tren than on.

But yeah, I will leave you be.

But lurking HAHA

 

[LeoTC]

I'm not getting far with the brojob topic anyway so I'm probably going to have to let it go.
I actually do what you suggest. I observe and talk to people, get my ideas together and circulate drafts of my parties or videos and get feedback from the community.
If you like my personality and my research why do you talk to me in the way you do? Upped the tren?

Two things:

1. We make gay jokes because we're boys, and boys are stupid. But I sincerely doubt any of the guys here would publicize sucking dick or having been blown by another guy.

Keeping appearances and all. Though I know there's definitely some pic swapping going on. So take that as you will.

2: Upping the Tren doesnt cause aggression or irritability. It's been well established that it's only acceptable to use Tren as an excuse for watching Trans porn.

Again, because appearances.

You're welcome.