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FDA Poised to Ban Ephedra
By JOHN SOLOMON, AP

NEW YORK (Dec. 30) -- The Bush administration has decided to ban the herbal weight-loss supplement ephedra from the marketplace because of concerns about its effects on health, government officials said Tuesday.


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Health and Human Services Secretary Tommy Thompson and Food and Drug Administration chief Mark McClellan were to announce the ban at a midday news conference, the officials said, speaking only on condition of anonymity.

The ban is likely to be met with litigation from manufacturers who dispute the agency's assertion that ephedra, which was blamed in the death of a professional baseball player earlier this year, is a health risk.

The government ban, one of the first involving a dietary supplement, comes after Thompson this summer urged Congress to rewrite a law that rolled back dietary-supplement regulations and to require manufacturers to acknowledge potential side effects.

Ephedra has been linked to as many as 100 deaths, officials have said. And Congress gathered testimony from families of people who are believed to have died from its side effects. Among those who testified were the parents of Baltimore Orioles pitcher Steve Bechler, who died during spring training last February while trying to lose weight. Toxicology tests showed ephedra in his system.

Executives of several companies that make ephedra-based products have said that studies have proven that they are safe when used properly.

''Anyone who has read our label knows that we go to great lengths to inform our customers about the proper use of our products,'' said Russell Schreck, chief executive officer of San Diego-based nutritional supplement-maker Metabolife International. ''We make it quite clear on our label that the ephedra products are not to be sold or used by minors and that customers with certain pre-existing medical conditions should 'consult a physician before product use'.''

But several scientists said that it was impossible to prove whether ephedra was safe because studies screen out participants who have health problems - the people most likely to be hurt by the product.

The General Accounting Office, Congress' investigative arm, looked into the issue and found many people who reported problems had followed the label's instructions.

The FDA had proposed warning labels and dosage limits for dietary supplements with ephedra back in 1997, but then withdrew the proposal after complaints from the industry and members of Congress.

In 2001, the National Football League banned its players from using ephedra as a dietary supplement.


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Bigstocky said:
FDA Poised to Ban Ephedra
By JOHN SOLOMON, AP

NEW YORK (Dec. 30) -- The Bush administration has decided to ban the herbal weight-loss supplement ephedra from the marketplace because of concerns about its effects on health, government officials said Tuesday.


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Health and Human Services Secretary Tommy Thompson and Food and Drug Administration chief Mark McClellan were to announce the ban at a midday news conference, the officials said, speaking only on condition of anonymity.

The ban is likely to be met with litigation from manufacturers who dispute the agency's assertion that ephedra, which was blamed in the death of a professional baseball player earlier this year, is a health risk.

The government ban, one of the first involving a dietary supplement, comes after Thompson this summer urged Congress to rewrite a law that rolled back dietary-supplement regulations and to require manufacturers to acknowledge potential side effects.

Ephedra has been linked to as many as 100 deaths, officials have said. And Congress gathered testimony from families of people who are believed to have died from its side effects. Among those who testified were the parents of Baltimore Orioles pitcher Steve Bechler, who died during spring training last February while trying to lose weight. Toxicology tests showed ephedra in his system.

Executives of several companies that make ephedra-based products have said that studies have proven that they are safe when used properly.

''Anyone who has read our label knows that we go to great lengths to inform our customers about the proper use of our products,'' said Russell Schreck, chief executive officer of San Diego-based nutritional supplement-maker Metabolife International. ''We make it quite clear on our label that the ephedra products are not to be sold or used by minors and that customers with certain pre-existing medical conditions should 'consult a physician before product use'.''

But several scientists said that it was impossible to prove whether ephedra was safe because studies screen out participants who have health problems - the people most likely to be hurt by the product.

The General Accounting Office, Congress' investigative arm, looked into the issue and found many people who reported problems had followed the label's instructions.

The FDA had proposed warning labels and dosage limits for dietary supplements with ephedra back in 1997, but then withdrew the proposal after complaints from the industry and members of Congress.

In 2001, the National Football League banned its players from using ephedra as a dietary supplement.


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Way ahead of you allready stocked up but it wasnt just Pres Bush(Republican)It was also every single Dem and All the Reps except think 2.I live in NY Senator Clinton and Schumer have been pushing a ban on ephedrine for a long time like every politician.
Its the in vogue "fight".ofcourse trying to lower insurance rates or utility rates that they wont do.Thats not in vogue and requires real work.
Darter
 
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Steve Bechler died because he was an idiot.It had nothing to do withe ephedra just stupidity.The government should be more concerned with terrorists or something right now.The people to blame though is not the government.Its the "grieving families"saying oh god my poor kid shouldn't have died even though he was overweight,had serious heart problems,and then wrapped himself up in plastic with no water for three days and ran 10 miles in 102 degree weather.But it was def. the ephedra that killed him.Even though there is NOT ONE SHRED of proof.WTF.
 
Just to clarify, the herb Ephedra is being banned. NOT, the pharmaceutical Ephedrine HCL, which is better anyway. So, no worries... ;)
 
01dragonslayer said:
Not familiar with Ephedrine HCL???

EpHedrine HCL is pure energy it blows ephedra away but you cant buy it over the counter.Not in my state anyway.I have bought it from www.dnepharm.com
.If you opt for this dont buy he one with gualf it makes your mouth dry and overall just constand thirsty during your workout get the plain ephedrine hcl.
The drawback in my opinion is that its "hypes"you up more than ephedra maybe overkill for some and some lose temper on it seems to me women more so than men.The Guy I sometimes workout with his wife and sister take it to workout they seem to lose their temper on it according to him.
If ephedra works for you its safer to.You also need to send the co a copy of your drivers liscence they want to make sure your over 21.A few other places sell ephedrine HCL without proof but Ihave only usedthis co and it is real-real powerful to.
I stocked up on ephedra though .If you workout at night dont take ephedrine youll be up for hours.I workout before work heehee going to the gym now so for me it gave me the only 3 productive days I have every week at work heeheee kidding.
Darter
 
ripped fuel

Is Ripped Fuel considered to have Ephedra or Ephedrine HCL? I don't understand the difference...I have used Ripped Fuel and Xenadrine in the past and loved both.
 
Pablo34 said:
Is Ripped Fuel considered to have Ephedra or Ephedrine HCL? I don't understand the difference...I have used Ripped Fuel and Xenadrine in the past and loved both.

The old ripped fuel had ephedrine in it than I think ephedra than it became ephedra free and to me it became expensive coffee and garbage.Some still love it they get a good kick from the caffeine.God Bless them.
I wish I was one of them.
Darter
 
Pablo34 said:
Is Ripped Fuel considered to have Ephedra or Ephedrine HCL? I don't understand the difference...I have used Ripped Fuel and Xenadrine in the past and loved both.

If you look on the package it says that the ephedra is standardized for such and such a percentage of ephedrine...I think. As far as I understand this, ephedra is the herb and ephedrine is the active ingredient. It's like Tylenol. You eat a couple of those that have A, B, C, D and Acetominophine in it. You get all of that, but all you really want is the Acetominiphine.
 
Where do you guys get your ephedrine hcl? I really need my ephedra/ephedrine again with this new (and stressful) job I have.
 
Pablo34 said:
Where do you guys get your ephedrine hcl? I really need my ephedra/ephedrine again with this new (and stressful) job I have.

Like Grizzly posted www.dnepharm.com 1 800 221-1833 .Real ephedrine HCL not fake garbage or watered down garbage like some others sell.
If your used to ephedra go light on ephedrine its stronger.
Darter
 
why use ephedra when there are methamphetamines.lol. I can't stand to use ephedra, it makes me jittery and makes my heart feel like it's coming out of my chest.
 
betterthanu said:
why use ephedra when there are methamphetamines.lol. I can't stand to use ephedra, it makes me jittery and makes my heart feel like it's coming out of my chest.

Yeah, isn't it GREAT!! I used Ephedrine HCL(25mg)with the Guafesin and Caffeine(200mg)before I worked out. Man, that stuff smokes Ephedra!! It hits the system in 10-15 minutes.
 
Thanks

Grizz, Darter, thanks for the info. Ephedra/Ephedrine has been the best supplement I've ever taken IMO. Working stressful jobs and long days makes it hard to work out, and this stuff gets me on an 'even playing field' with the college asshole kids who mosey on into the gym midway throughout their day of doing nothing. Damn I miss those days!
 
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