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[darkdays]

So what is the consensus on primal primo?

no clue never taken his primo or primo in general, wasnt here for that drama show. apparently he made a fuck up and ended up owning it after being called out was my understanding?. ive only ordered recently tested batches, i mean 250 mg cyp tested at $25 thats 2018-2019 pricing. i havent used any of the gear yet. traveling, so i only travel with whats legally prescribed to me. id say at the price it is (primo) currently at compared to other beloved vendors, if you're not strapped for cash grabbing a few vials and sending a test or two off couldn't hurt, it'll either prove changes were made and the price was a steal. or it could potentially show changes weren't made and the criticism is still justifiable. side note, seeing that i recently inquired to send a fda approved cyp vial out to jano after bloods that came out weak/low i wont be surprised that the trt company im going thru is selling underdosed cyp, and if they are, it just shows nobody is infallible. not much of a direct answer for ya, ill get what i ordered for myself tested, if its good orbad ill post it to the board. if its as advertised ill run it, p simple.

 

[rtrnofbesoge]

no clue never taken his primo or primo in general, wasnt here for that drama show. apparently he made a fuck up and ended up owning it after being called out was my understanding?. ive only ordered recently tested batches, i mean 250 mg cyp tested at $25 thats 2018-2019 pricing. i havent used any of the gear yet. traveling, so i only travel with whats legally prescribed to me. id say at the price it is (primo) currently at compared to other beloved vendors, if you're not strapped for cash grabbing a few vials and sending a test or two off couldn't hurt, it'll either prove changes were made and the price was a steal. or it could potentially show changes weren't made and the criticism is still justifiable. side note, seeing that i recently inquired to send a fda approved cyp vial out to jano after bloods that came out weak/low i wont be surprised that the trt company im going thru is selling underdosed cyp, and if they are, it just shows nobody is infallible. not much of a direct answer for ya, ill get what i ordered for myself tested, if its good orbad ill post it to the board. if its as advertised ill run it, p simple.

Sending to Jano seems like a complicated process, potential legal issues? I'm more concerned about the latter than the former. What has your experience been with it?

 

[AlexDavis43]

I hear you, but let’s be real here. The issue wasn’t games or bait-and-switch. we tried to keep up with demand and resold a batch of primo that we refiltered while waiting for raws to land. I take responsibility for not doing enough research before making that call, but acting like that’s on the same level as sources cutting products, mislabeling compounds, or using EO without disclosure isn’t accurate.

Trust takes time, and I’m not expecting anyone to flip a switch overnight. All I can do is own what happened, tighten things up, and move forward the right way.

Merry Christmas to you brother. And Happy Holidays ya filthy animal

I take responsibility for not doing enough research before making that call, but acting like that’s on the same level as sources cutting products, mislabeling compounds, or using EO without disclosure isn’t accurate.

Just curious: what would 'doing more research before making that call' have accomplished in this case, specifically?

What research?

and merry Christmas

 

[ZaddyZonar]

I’m currently using their aromasin. Pulled bloods on Thursday just awaiting results. I’ll post em up when I get it

Using 12.5mg Aromasin x2 a week on 250mg test (different source) and 140mg Tren E a week (different source) Guess we can stop doing that lol.

 

[darkdays]

Sending to Jano seems like a complicated process, potential legal issues? I'm more concerned about the latter than the former. What has your experience been with it?

There’s a reason Janos been the main trusted testing source since before I even was on this forum.

 

[rtrnofbesoge]

Using 12.5mg Aromasin x2 a week on 250mg test (different source) and 140mg Tren E a week (different source) Guess we can stop doing that lol.

How are you feeling with E2 that low?

 

[ZaddyZonar]

How are you feeling with E2 that low?

Not bad tbh. Was more or less taking the aromasin as precaution until I did my first bloodwork since starting the tren to ensure E2 and prolactin were in check. All is good so we’ll drop the AI and see what’s happening on next bloods

 

[AllbrandNew]

Not bad tbh. Was more or less taking the aromasin as precaution until I did my first bloodwork since starting the tren to ensure E2 and prolactin were in check. All is good so we’ll drop the AI and see what’s happening on next bloods

FWIW, my E2 natty was 6.7 and I felt fine. Def feel better with higher E2, but if you don't notice, it's not surprising.

 

[Photon]

Just curious: what would 'doing more research before making that call' have accomplished in this case, specifically?

What research?

and merry Christmas

He trusted the CN vendor in that there was no EO in it. If he did more research prior he would have found out it's in all their crap and that's what they always lie about to get people to buy.

The lack of proper research resulted in him getting caught with his lies about receiving raws, brewing and then selling when he was just reselling CN gear.

Someone GCMS that primo 100 and see if it's from CN. The fact that it tested spot on whilst the primo 200 was largely underdosed is just weird.

Testing of his products shows underdosing, 3rd party testing that don't match vendor testing, mislabeled vials and vials of EO CN primo were sold without disclosure. I don't see how it's different from the "other" vendors he's trying to claim superiority about.

Nothing a few rounds of sales can't fixed tho.

Oh and Merry Christmas too

 

[newguy2]

He trusted the CN vendor in that there was no EO in it. If he did more research prior he would have found out it's in all their crap and that's what they always lie about to get people to buy.

The lack of proper research resulted in him getting caught with his lies about receiving raws, brewing and then selling when he was just reselling CN gear.

Someone GCMS that primo 100 and see if it's from CN. The fact that it tested spot on whilst the primo 200 was largely underdosed is just weird.

Testing of his products shows underdosing, 3rd party testing that don't match vendor testing, mislabeled vials and vials of EO CN primo were sold without disclosure. I don't see how it's different from the "other" vendors he's trying to claim superiority about.

Nothing a few rounds of sales can't fixed tho.

Oh and Merry Christmas too

Yup got me with the sale lol. I have my critiques but I'm broke and need a restock.

 

[bigstepper]

It would be helpful for @Primal_Pharma to state an official position on the Primo100 before someone GCMS’s it. While the 200 seems to be on the up and up, considering the recent drama, why not remove all doubt?

He trusted the CN vendor in that there was no EO in it. If he did more research prior he would have found out it's in all their crap and that's what they always lie about to get people to buy.

The lack of proper research resulted in him getting caught with his lies about receiving raws, brewing and then selling when he was just reselling CN gear.

Someone GCMS that primo 100 and see if it's from CN. The fact that it tested spot on whilst the primo 200 was largely underdosed is just weird.

Testing of his products shows underdosing, 3rd party testing that don't match vendor testing, mislabeled vials and vials of EO CN primo were sold without disclosure. I don't see how it's different from the "other" vendors he's trying to claim superiority about.

Nothing a few rounds of sales can't fixed tho.

Oh and Merry Christmas too

 

[Photon]

It would be helpful for @Primal_Pharma to state an official position on the Primo100 before someone GCMS’s it. While the 200 seems to be on the up and up, considering the recent drama, why not remove all doubt?

He already did.
Showed a raw purity result and a hplc test.

 

[darkdays]

He already did.
Showed a raw purity result and a hplc test.

Dumb question but what does GCMS mean

 

[Photon]

Dumb question but what does GCMS mean

Name of a test that Jano can perform.

Gas chromatography–mass spectrometry - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[bigstepper]

He already did.
Showed a raw purity result and a hplc test.

Right, but if your concern is the 100 being CN based on the hplc variances and only posting the 200 gcms, a definitive statement would leave no room to wiggle room.

Not primal related, but I have seen other sources outside of meso with recent batches of primo that have posted raw and finished oil tests where the finished oil in the lab photo very clearly looks like the cheap black top CN vials. I’m suspicious they tested a tiny amount of legit primo raw, and are selling CN diluted down to 125.

 

[The Answ3r]

Couldn’t resist and grabbed a bit of Primo 100 with mig812 Black Edition as a little Christmas gift to myself. Officially my last purchase of the year.

In hand, the Black Edition actually looks pretty decent, but I’ll be honest, the vial label still feels a bit cheap. Yeah yeah, I know it has nothing to do with the quality, just a personal nitpick and my inner aesthetics nerd talking.

One thing you can’t take away though, Primal has a great sense of humor over email. Ordering from him is always a chill and entertaining experience.

Last time I ran Primo was probably 7-8 years ago and I honestly didn’t really get the hype back then. This time I’m planning to cruise for a while and maybe run Primo in the background at around 200mg a week. We’ll see how it goes.