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Anabolic Steroids

Endurance Cycle

Sworder said:
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Thanks for your opinion Sworder. I have the stuff, and I'm going to use it. There are other forums where recommendations are to use it. I just can't figure out their recommendation dosage as the posting were from years ago and I cannot contact them.

Pericles said:
My claim is based upon the fact that I have worked with more than 25 professional MMA/Boxing pros. I also usd to race bikes. For both, endurance is critical. The role of anabolics is to aid in recovery for these type athletes.
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Pericles, you seem to know a lot about this. Do you have an opinion on an anavar only cycle? I don't mind putting on a (very) small bit of weight as long as I burn off some fat, add a little muscle and my watts go up.
 
I love that attitude :) "I have it and I am gonna do this no matter what."

First off, if you don't know how to use it; you probably shouldn't be using it.

Manipulating your hormones isn't the simplest thing. For a 6-weeker your shutdown won't be that bad but it is a waste of time and you are disturbing your HPTA. The small gains you make will probably be lost because you have no idea what you are doing. Diet is perfect, I have heard that before. I concentrate a lot of time on my diet and it is far from perfect.

In short, save yourself the time spent and stress you are putting on your body. Don't do the cycle which is wasn't the brightest plan from the get-go.
 
Your right, I don't know what I'm doing. Which is why I'm on this thread, to find information on how to use it correctly. CleanedAndPressed used it for exactly what I'm trying to do and from what he said, got good results except for maybe taking too high of a dosage.
 
I misinterpreted your statement when you said you were a cyclist. Most of the guys on here are too, but not on a bike.

I don't really know how to convince you but lets put it like this. Ask on the (bi)cycling forums what PED they feel work the best for them. If one of them say ANAVAR I would be surprised at their answer.

Strength comes from muscle, you seem to think that the strength comes directly from the steroids. You build muscle with steroids and the muscle gives you strength. If you want more strength you are going to have to build muscle. If you don't want to build muscle you shouldn't be using steroids. For higher RBC you could try EQ as suggested. But you don't want to use needles huh :) Once again, if you can't handle a needle you shouldn't be using steroids.

"to find information on how to use it correctly" In your case you can't use it correctly because it is not intended for those purposes. In a cutting cycle you could do 500mg Test E and 40mg Anavar.

EPO is the PED which you can use correctly!

"Cleanandpressed" is probably doing a lot of CLEAN AND PRESS which isn't bicycling...
 
EPO is a mess, way too hard to manage and you're risking death. No dice.

I don't mind building "some" muscle. I figured I would put on a couple pounds of leg muscle and lose a little bit of fat weight (simply because that is what var does). Thanks for the advice. Oh, and you're right about CleanedAndPressed...not a (bi)cyclist.

Steroids do play a prominent role in cycling, and not just EPO. Just need to find the right ones, and according to you var is not the one. Thanks for the advice.
 
cycleme said:
Thanks for your opinion Sworder. I have the stuff, and I'm going to use it. There are other forums where recommendations are to use it. I just can't figure out their recommendation dosage as the posting were from years ago and I cannot contact them.



Pericles, you seem to know a lot about this. Do you have an opinion on an anavar only cycle? I don't mind putting on a (very) small bit of weight as long as I burn off some fat, add a little muscle and my watts go up.
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Others on here are also pretty knowledeable. A var only cycle is a very bad idea. Half life is 8 hours, ans it will shut you down to some degree which means that the other 18 hours in a day you will have less test than you did natty.

As mentioned, my advice is low dosage test and EQ. I had some fighters I coached, and had them take a small amount of Halo because it makes you mean. Remember, though, you will compete the way you train.
 
Also, Sworder is a pretty smart guy. His main point is that gear is only a small part of training. Yes, it will give you an edge, but it won't make you Lance Armstrong.
 
I train hard, and smart. My diet is to the point where if I change it anymore, it won't be sustainable. At least not for me. I'm not trying to be Lance. I simply wanted to use something that would help me add some strength without a lot of muscle and without killing my endurance. I was recommended Anavar. Apparently that was bad advice. Sucks because I have it and am now out the $.
 
OK.....Sworder's comments are valid because most are clueless when it comes to steroid use. Going up is the easy part. The hard part is restoring your system. If you just take var, and even though it is one of the safest steroids (of course you need at least 50mg a day) you will be shut down at the end, and like I said, you will be, hormonally speaking in a bad state for most of a day.

To use var, you need a base and the best base is test w/ a long acting ester.

So, you can't run var w/ out test. And anyway, the test will increase your performance more than the var. I recomend 200 mg of test every 5 days. More is not better. Adding EQ is what you should be doing to really increase your cardiovascular abilities.

More importantly, you will need drugs to help restore your endocrine system. Now my pct is somewhat different than the other vets on this forum. The diff is mainly over the fact that the best way to go is through tiny amounts of hcg eod during your whole cycle.

I find that the above protocol is a huge hassle for most, and don't suggest it for people I work with. The only reason I don't do it either is because my HCG is prescribed to me, and a 10kiu bottle is nearly $90. using tiny amounts would "waste" half of it. A few years ago I made quite a bit of money in real estate, but those days are long gone and I am now on a budget.

My protocol, and the one I recomend for people I work with is to use 1500iu's eod at about 2/3rds way through the cycle (and I like long cycles) and then at the end. You will need an AI for when you use the HCG, and possibly while on cycle (this is a genetic variable, some people need less). If you are a lucky type like me who never gets bitch tits then you will still need Nolvadex towards the end of your cycle and for pct along w/ Clomid to fully restore your hpta.

You can see that doing gear is not a simple matter, and many fail to understand that fact. That is why Sworders' concerns are valid. Also, you need to spend as much time off as on.....until the day comes when you cannot get your system to produce natty test and you go on hrt for good.
 
Hi, guys. I have a problem and I hope you can help me to solve it. I must to pass military PT soon, but my results are still low. I train hard, train 6 times per week including boxing and running 5 times per week, but still have problems with it. I`ve tried test (Sust then prop), EQ, but pump is so painful, so I can`t train hard. Maybe my dosage was to big? Can you adwice me something? I've already lost 20 pounds for last 6 monts because of bad recovery.
You are my last hope. I'm russian speaker and here is no info about roids for endurance and functional trainig.
P.S. Sorry for my English :)
 
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