Cloudy/Lumpy HGH

[canes]

AOD requires a slightly acidic reconstitution buffer or (as I've found) you can max out the BAC water dilution

Never had gelling with 3 mL BAC

It sometimes requires a slightly acidic reconstitution. Went through 7-8 group tests of aod across 5-6 vendors. Some of which were full nmr. There were 2 vendors whose AOD never required acetic acid. I have some in my freezer now I'll probably throw out since Ive been using GH instead.

But yes, I always had acetic acid/sodium bicarbonate on hand when needed for ph projects.

 

[AlexDavis43]

And assuming you use hospira BAC. Recon correctly and its still cloudy whos fault is it?

In that case it could be the sources issue to resolve. But how often has that happened to you?

What are they going to resolve? No one knows why one rogue vial in 100 kits is cloudy while the others are crystal clear.

No one even knows if it's harmful other than some pharma CYA pdfs with a warning in all caps but no explanation as to why. I'm open to this just saying we don't have much to go on at this point other than ChatGPT theories etc

 

[Middus]

Yes, I think that exactly about sterility too.

Last time the "5 in 20 peptide vials fail sterility tests" was cited I tried to calculate how many vials I use and how many infections I haven't gotten.

GH alone accounts for 1 per day, so maybe 10 per week?

Over 500 vials should've given me 25 infections in one year. I think I might've noticed at least one of them.

Multiply that by all peptide-using Meso members and we're talking tens of thousands of infections that haven't happened.

Using the Jano statistic on peptide sterility to support filtering is the definition of fear mongering.

Basic principle in healthcare: common things occur commonly, uncommon things, uncommonly. It's relatively safe to measure safety index of a widely used substance using anecdotes, where proper studies/clinical trials are lacking

 

[Ateam2023]

Qsc 15 iu red top has been the only "cloudy/floaties" I've gotten and that was after about 10 kits , the remaing kit i have i just haven't gotten around to even caring about filtering , I'll probably end up tossing it because im just a lazy pos about filtering, i just hate throwing hgh away,,

 

[AlexDavis43]

Basic principle in healthcare: common things occur commonly, uncommon things, uncommonly. It's relatively safe to measure safety index of a widely used substance using anecdotes, where proper studies/clinical trials are lacking

I wouldn't argue against that

We have the full spectrum from bubble boys to knuckle draggers

I don't view unfiltered GH as a harm so filtering it isn't harm reduction imo

I got nothing against people having their own personal risk tolerance, but I don't like fear mongering or calling someone a low IQ retard just because their risk tolerance doesn't match yours

 

[paulbras]

AOD requires a slightly acidic reconstitution buffer or (as I've found) you can max out the BAC water dilution

Never had gelling with 3 mL BAC

I just ordered some HGH FRAG 10mg vials.... Should i treat it same way as AOD?

 

[AlexDavis43]

I just ordered some HGH FRAG 10mg vials.... Should i treat it same way as AOD?

I don't know if it's necessary but I would

 

[Kaching]

I've only had cloudy vials the very first time I ordered HGH in my life and it was from SRY and I learned that it was my fault for just shooting the BAC water straight down into the vial and then shaking it to mix it up. LOL. After learning that you need to be gentle with these guys never had a cloudy vial again, including from that same kit from SRY.

i am adding the BAC first against the Vial wall. BUT i am maybe "mix" to strong ( Lobster and Iron Lion are clear with the same method.)

WIll try now very very looovly. Just rolling the vial.

 

[Middus]

I wouldn't argue against that

We have the full spectrum from bubble boys to knuckle draggers

I don't view unfiltered GH as a harm so filtering it isn't harm reduction imo

I got nothing against people having their own personal risk tolerance, but I don't like fear mongering or calling someone a low IQ retard just because their risk tolerance doesn't match yours

Yeah. I'm in agreement. Was trying to say before people panic, they should simply look around and look back at reports.
Same reason I will never argue against filtering and all, but you are probably going to win a local lottery before you develop necrotizing fasciitis due to unfiltered HGH

 

[Kaching]

I've only had cloudy vials the very first time I ordered HGH in my life and it was from SRY and I learned that it was my fault for just shooting the BAC water straight down into the vial and then shaking it to mix it up. LOL. After learning that you need to be gentle with these guys never had a cloudy vial again, including from that same kit from SRY.

Nope... have tried with 2 different kids from SSA (10iu vials), both kits got light cloudy.
Will let sit overnight and make pictures tomorrow.

 

[paulbras]

Nope... have tried with 2 different kids from SSA (10iu vials), both kits got light cloudy.
Will let sit overnight and make pictures tomorrow.

With all due respect, you should really limit yourself to trying this stuff with adults and leave the kids out of it.

 

[Kaching]

With all due respect, you should really limit yourself to trying this stuff with adults and leave the kids out of it.

But they are small and need the HGH.
I will build the first Chinese NBA team, powered by SSA.

 

[canes]

With all due respect, you should really limit yourself to trying this stuff with adults and leave the kids out of it.

It took me way to long to get this. Bravo sir

 

[songsofpyramids]

probably going to win a local lottery before you develop necrotizing fasciitis due to unfiltered HGH

I think people pushing this idea are silly. If it were true we’d have some awesome medical cases of it by now given how many people are using peptides. The ven diagram of peptide users and total idiots which, from years of following this stuff, seems like a bigger overlap than I like to admit would just mean even higher odds of people loosing chunks of their belly. Just a bunch of people overdosing peptides and freezing their stomachs and shit.

I do think the argument peptide aggregates or manufacturing processes could impact inflammation and inflammatory conditions holds water. I think the danger of that varies very greatly by the individual though. If you’ve got auto immune issues or a weak heart that might be very serious, if you don’t have anything wrong it probably wouldn’t register.

 

[BamaCrazy]

I think people pushing this idea are silly. If it were true we’d have some awesome medical cases of it by now given how many people are using peptides. The ven diagram of peptide users and total idiots which, from years of following this stuff, seems like a bigger overlap than I like to admit would just mean even higher odds of people loosing chunks of their belly. Just a bunch of people overdosing peptides and freezing their stomachs and shit.

I do think the argument peptide aggregates or manufacturing processes could impact inflammation and inflammatory conditions holds water. I think the danger of that varies very greatly by the individual though. If you’ve got auto immune issues or a weak heart that might be very serious, if you don’t have anything wrong it probably wouldn’t register.

On this forum alone I think there are more people causing themselves inflammation from Primo, EO and Mig840 than from any peptide. Then there are the risks of injecting IM compared to subq. To me peds are extremely more risky than HGH and peptides.

 

[songsofpyramids]

To me peds are extremely more risky than HGH and peptides.

I absolutely agree. Not even a contest.

 

[StoopidGoat]

On this forum alone I think there are more people causing themselves inflammation from Primo, EO and Mig840 than from any peptide. Then there are the risks of injecting IM compared to subq. To me peds are extremely more risky than HGH and peptides.

Steroids are inherently more risky due to I.M. Sub Q infections are almost a non-issue, even with grotty peptides.

Problem isn't sterility, it's stability.

 

[TheScholarOfBrew]

Steroids are inherently more risky due to I.M. Sub Q infections are almost a non-issue, even with grotty peptides.

Problem isn't sterility, it's stability.

Sub Q actually is highly recommended anyways to reduce immune response to drugs.

 

[Sampei]

Sub Q actually is highly recommended anyways to reduce immune response to drugs.

It's the opposite idiot. IM reduce immune response to drug

 

[Spaceman Spiff]

Same. But then again, I’ve purchased GH from 4-5 sources and never had a cloudy vial.

I have had a few cloudy QSC HGH 1.5+ years ago.