Kratom

[Gymjitsu]

Green thai

I think I started some kind of kratom for pre-workout discussion a year ago when I was a junior member and got ripped on lmao.
Kratom definitely makes me take way longer to cum and I usually won't take it before sex for these reasons, these effects only last for me for a few hours usually.
I have been taking it on and off for years, I enjoy it way more than a traditional stimulant pre-workout, it's a completely different vibe of energy.

 

[BigDaddyV]

I think I started some kind of kratom for pre-workout discussion a year ago when I was a junior member and got ripped on lmao.
Kratom definitely makes me take way longer to cum and I usually won't take it before sex for these reasons, these effects only last for me for a few hours usually.
I have been taking it on and off for years, I enjoy it way more than a traditional stimulant pre-workout, it's a completely different vibe of energy.

Same, I think pwo powders can be too much on the stimulant side, the smooth energy along with the other nice side effects makes it an efficient pwo IMO

 

[jJjburton]

Same, I think pwo powders can be too much on the stimulant side, the smooth energy along with the other nice side effects makes it an efficient pwo IMO

I think I started some kind of kratom for pre-workout discussion a year ago when I was a junior member and got ripped on lmao.
Kratom definitely makes me take way longer to cum and I usually won't take it before sex for these reasons, these effects only last for me for a few hours usually.
I have been taking it on and off for years, I enjoy it way more than a traditional stimulant pre-workout, it's a completely different vibe of energy.

Its definitly a way different energy, like an overall mood energy that can allow you to lift hard.



how long before sex would you not take it? Is 24 hours good.

it is not something i wish to use after this tren run. But it is working so well on the pent up aggression and insomnia and night sweats. I have no sides now, when taking it along side. I also take 2 days on and 2 days off, this week.

 

[Gymjitsu]

Its definitly a way different energy, like an overall mood energy that can allow you to lift hard.



how long before sex would you not take it? Is 24 hours good.

it is not something i wish to use after this tren run. But it is working so well on the pent up aggression and insomnia and night sweats. I have no sides now, when taking it along side. I also take 2 days on and 2 days off, this week.

If I took it in the morning/around noon, I'd be fine by night. Just my personal experience.

 

[BigDaddyV]

If I took it in the morning/around noon, I'd be fine by night. Just my personal experience.

Same I can dose probably 4 hours prior to sex and won’t have trouble cumming.

 

[MegaDaveMustang]

I'm thinking the Kratom I purchased must be low quality, I've experimented with various doses & the only thing I've noticed is a VERY mild "body buzz" type effect at doses of 12-15mg. Anything less gives me nothing at all.

That feeling didn't provide anything positive as far as pwo energy, nothing to speak of. I get no feelings of relaxation or any kind of "high" experience...nothing like what many members here describe.

It's Red Bali, by the way. Wonderland Gardens or Wondergreen, I can't remember without it front of me. But I'm still very curious about it, I may just have to seek out a different brand. We'll see.

 

[jJjburton]

I'm thinking the Kratom I purchased must be low quality, I've experimented with various doses & the only thing I've noticed is a VERY mild "body buzz" type effect at doses of 12-15mg. Anything less gives me nothing at all.

That feeling didn't provide anything positive as far as pwo energy, nothing to speak of. I get no feelings of relaxation or any kind of "high" experience...nothing like what many members here describe.

It's Red Bali, by the way. Wonderland Gardens or Wondergreen, I can't remember without it front of me. But I'm still very curious about it, I may just have to seek out a different brand. We'll see.

I am new to it, anything that is red strain sucks for energy. Yes it really does make a difference.

i get green strains for energy.

i thought the strain thing was BS. Its so true. Totally different.

green thai is a strong preworkout one. 5-6 grams and you will workout hard.

 

[jJjburton]

I'm thinking the Kratom I purchased must be low quality, I've experimented with various doses & the only thing I've noticed is a VERY mild "body buzz" type effect at doses of 12-15mg. Anything less gives me nothing at all.

That feeling didn't provide anything positive as far as pwo energy, nothing to speak of. I get no feelings of relaxation or any kind of "high" experience...nothing like what many members here describe.

It's Red Bali, by the way. Wonderland Gardens or Wondergreen, I can't remember without it front of me. But I'm still very curious about it, I may just have to seek out a different brand. We'll see.

I just get opms which is no where near as good as others online . But it works. Its just being used these last days of tren. Then i am done

 

[jJjburton]

I'm thinking the Kratom I purchased must be low quality, I've experimented with various doses & the only thing I've noticed is a VERY mild "body buzz" type effect at doses of 12-15mg. Anything less gives me nothing at all.

That feeling didn't provide anything positive as far as pwo energy, nothing to speak of. I get no feelings of relaxation or any kind of "high" experience...nothing like what many members here describe.

It's Red Bali, by the way. Wonderland Gardens or Wondergreen, I can't remember without it front of me. But I'm still very curious about it, I may just have to seek out a different brand. We'll see.

Red bali is has no energy.

 

[BigDaddyV]

I'm thinking the Kratom I purchased must be low quality, I've experimented with various doses & the only thing I've noticed is a VERY mild "body buzz" type effect at doses of 12-15mg. Anything less gives me nothing at all.

That feeling didn't provide anything positive as far as pwo energy, nothing to speak of. I get no feelings of relaxation or any kind of "high" experience...nothing like what many members here describe.

It's Red Bali, by the way. Wonderland Gardens or Wondergreen, I can't remember without it front of me. But I'm still very curious about it, I may just have to seek out a different brand. We'll see.

What strain is it? As @jJjburton said the reds aren’t good for energy unless you dose it low. Then it’s okay. If it’s a white green or yellow then it’s probably low quality. Some low quality kratom is cut with O-Desmethyltramadol. A tramadol analogue, and it really fucks the whole energy vibe.

 

[MegaDaveMustang]

I am new to it, anything that is red strain sucks for energy. Yes it really does make a difference.

i get green strains for energy.

i thought the strain thing was BS. Its so true. Totally different.

green thai is a strong preworkout one. 5-6 grams and you will workout hard.

Ah ok. I've just read & heard so much that seems to contradict everything I've either read/heard about before & then after...I get confused.

What I'm really looking for is a strain for a true relaxation/rest/sleep/pain aid. Like I said though it seems I will research and/or hear first hand about a specific strain that works for that then it all gets turned upside down in the next article or person I talk to about it.

Like anything else really, I guess I have to experiment for myself with trial & error to see what works & if it actually does. It just gets frustrating when it feels like I'm throwing money away in that process but of course, that's the way she always goes.

 

[MegaDaveMustang]

What strain is it? As @jJjburton said the reds aren’t good for energy unless you dose it low. Then it’s okay. If it’s a white green or yellow then it’s probably low quality. Some low quality kratom is cut with O-Desmethyltramadol. A tramadol analogue, and it really fucks the whole energy vibe.

It's Red Bali. But in my post I was explaining & comparing what I've read about & heard from others either here or those I know personally. I'm actually looking for something to help with pain & sleep more than anything.

I'm good in the energy department, I ended up getting Red Bali based on what I've researched for pain/sleep but again like I said, it all just gets contradicted with every other report or first-hand experience I get from the the next person or article.

Maybe I'm just getting old, senile & easily confused. But seriously I just don't know what to believe with all the crisscrossed information I've been seeing

 

[BigDaddyV]

Ah ok. I've just read & heard so much that seems to contradict everything I've either read/heard about before & then after...I get confused.

What I'm really looking for is a strain for a true relaxation/rest/sleep/pain aid. Like I said though it seems I will research and/or hear first hand about a specific strain that works for that then it all gets turned upside down in the next article or person I talk to about it.

Like anything else really, I guess I have to experiment for myself with trial & error to see what works & if it actually does. It just gets frustrating when it feels like I'm throwing money away in that process but of course, that's the way she always goes.

Yeah I feel you, everyone contradicts each other, a lot of people think strains don’t make any difference and that’s not true in my experience. Like AAS you gotta experiment and see what works for you but I personally like reds for pain relief and relaxation. Greens seem to help me with pain relief as well but not so much on the relaxation side. I used them for pain relief when I had a leg injury. I also get migraines every so often not as much as I used to but they last days and kratom always makes them go away. Reds and greens cure my migraines every time

 

[jJjburton]

Red bal

It's Red Bali. But in my post I was explaining & comparing what I've read about & heard from others either here or those I know personally. I'm actually looking for something to help with pain & sleep more than anything.

I'm good in the energy department, I ended up getting Red Bali based on what I've researched for pain/sleep but again like I said, it all just gets contradicted with every other report or first-hand experience I get from the the next person or article.

Maybe I'm just getting old, senile & easily confused. But seriously I just don't know what to believe with all the crisscrossed information I've been seeing

O i thought you wanted energy.

red bali is good for relax and sleep.

But its not anything like other drugs, its not super intense.

 

[jJjburton]

I'm thinking the Kratom I purchased must be low quality, I've experimented with various doses & the only thing I've noticed is a VERY mild "body buzz" type effect at doses of 12-15mg. Anything less gives me nothing at all.

That feeling didn't provide anything positive as far as pwo energy, nothing to speak of. I get no feelings of relaxation or any kind of "high" experience...nothing like what many members here describe.

It's Red Bali, by the way. Wonderland Gardens or Wondergreen, I can't remember without it front of me. But I'm still very curious about it, I may just have to seek out a different brand. We'll see.

Scale for 1-10 for relaxing and sleep.
If a beer is a 2 and a benzo is a 8 for relaxing and sleep, painkillers is a 10

kratom is like a 4.

 

[jJjburton]

See and this is why I never try any if this stuff. Going to take only 2-3 grams today because i have a stuff i have to do. Its been 10 days straight of use pretty much, at 6-10 g. It really does take away the tren sides. I am just super productive in my work if i take a little of this stuff. Coming up on a big work week.


However i am taking a break or else ill be screwed. But dam my addictive personality. It can be used in all aspects of life. Pushing it on the positive is ideal.

 

[Gymjitsu]

See and this is why I never try any if this stuff. Going to take only 2-3 grams today because i have a stuff i have to do. Its been 10 days straight of use pretty much, at 6-10 g. It really does take away the tren sides. I am just super productive in my work if i take a little of this stuff. Coming up on a big work week.


However i am taking a break or else ill be screwed. But dam my addictive personality. It can be used in all aspects of life. Pushing it on the positive is ideal.

I can't speak for your addictive nature, but me personally I have spells where I take it all the time and then other times I go weeks without it. I've never had a withdrawal I noticed, and never titrated.
Worst part about taking it too much is it stops working after a while and you will have to stop taking it for a while.

 

[jJjburton]

I can't speak for your addictive nature, but me personally I have spells where I take it all the time and then other times I go weeks without it. I've never had a withdrawal I noticed, and never titrated.
Worst part about taking it too much is it stops working after a while and you will have to stop taking it for a while.

So when you stop you just stop, no tapering?

how long do you go in one of you spells?

it gives a good energy boost i get alot done. Being i am so busy with stuff at the moment, i get so much done.

 

[Gymjitsu]

So when you stop you just stop, no tapering?

how long do you go in one of you spells?

it gives a good energy boost i get alot done. Being i am so busy with stuff at the moment, i get so much done.

Usually it goes like this, I buy a big bottle of caps, 120 count or something, then I'll take it for a while until I finish it and I just don't buy anymore for a while to let my tolerance come back.
Maybe this would cause withdrawal in some but I've never personally had any withdrawal. I've had REAL withdrawal from pain pills when I was younger, 10/10 don't reccomend

 

[Gymjitsu]

So when you stop you just stop, no tapering?

how long do you go in one of you spells?

it gives a good energy boost i get alot done. Being i am so busy with stuff at the moment, i get so much done.

I agree with the energy boost. You stop getting it after taking it for so long tho, hence why I come off.
I really enjoy it to get my day started at work, I work construction and it really puts me in the zone.
Glad to see other people get benefits from it