Kratom For Pre-work out?

[Sworder]

I'm sure all the research chemicals in pre-work out is so much better for you @Sworder

No, they are not "better!" Are you suggesting that since there is already so much crap in pre-workouts you might as well add more crap?

It isn't very wise to use pre-workouts in my opinion. Basically you are stifling yourself by "needing" a pre-workout. You are creating a mental dependency.

 

[movingiron88]

What do you want?

I dont need to clarify myself. I asked you simple questions.

 

[Sworder]

You pass judgement on every post you make, are you aware of this and proud of your judgemental attitude?

Yes, proud is a poor term to use. There is no pride nor shame.

You are not religious are you?

No.

I dont need to quote the good book fo i?

If you want to quote "the good book" to present your values go ahead. Me and you don't have the same values which is why I don't bother to explain myself to you most the time.

It's like passing a square through a triangle.

 

[Gymjitsu]

No, they are not "better!" Are you suggesting that since there is already so much crap in pre-workouts you might as well add more crap?

It isn't very wise to use pre-workouts in my opinion. Basically you are stifling yourself by "needing" a pre-workout. You are creating a mental dependency.

I agree you shouldn't develop mental dependency. I don't take pre-workout and I take kratom every now and then. Literally everything we are doing in this forum has risk for mental dependency so you can't use that argument.

 

[Oldschool]

It's like passing a square through a triangle.

Guessing you are looking for help with the circle? Square looking squared away?

 

[B Ware]

Wow, another interesting thread that started out intriguing and than got trolled/spammed to death by Sworder.

 

[Oldschool]

Wow, another interesting thread that started out intriguing and than got trolled/spammed to death by Sworder.

Oh no. There is no pattern. Lol

 

[Sworder]

Guessing you are looking for help with the circle? Square looking squared away?

Circles are easy, it's all about the pi.

 

[Sworder]

I agree you shouldn't develop mental dependency. I don't take pre-workout and I take kratom every now and then. Literally everything we are doing in this forum has risk for mental dependency so you can't use that argument.

Yes, I can use that argument because there are beneficial mental dependencies you can develop. For example, after each workout without a substance or pre-WO. Give yourself a compliment and smile.

 

[Sworder]

Wow, another interesting thread that started out intriguing and than got trolled/spammed to death by Sworder.

Oh no. There is no pattern. Lol

Use the ignore function and maybe your vaginas will stop hurting?

 

[Oldschool]

Use the ignore function and maybe your vaginas will stop hurting?

What would you know about vaginas?

 

[Sworder]

What would you know about vaginas?

Current concepts of female pelvic anatomy and physiology.
Current concepts of female pelvic anatomy and physiology. - Abstract - Europe PMC
Abstract
The female urinary bladder and urethra are situated on the intrapelvic surface of the anterior vaginal wall, firmly anchored to the distal vagina by the urogenital diaphragm and to the superior vagina at the vesicocervicouterine junction. The anterior surface of the proximal urethra is firmly anchored to the posterior aspect of the symphysis pubis by the pubourethral ligaments and to the remaining distal vagina by the lower two thirds of the urogenital diaphragm. The lateral bladder wall derives its support from the anterior vaginal wall attachments to the pelvic sidewall. The anterior vaginal wall is strongly supported by pubococcygeus muscle fibers inserting on the vaginal wall and the genital hiatus and by the cardinal and uterosacral ligaments. Vaginal detachment from the lateral pelvic sidewall can result in herniation, with accompanying secondary posterior bladder descent. Levator ani weakness or injury may be a contributing etiologic factor in the genesis of vaginal wall detachment and the development of stress incontinence.

 

[WolfGain]

You might find this interesting about the raised prolactin and lower test, there's probably a few variables that might differ from your stats but it might help answer someone else's questions too
Case Report Reveals Another Possible Side Effect of Kratom - MPR

 

[Sworder]

You might find this interesting about the raised prolactin and lower test, there's probably a few variables that might differ from your stats but it might help answer someone else's questions too
Case Report Reveals Another Possible Side Effect of Kratom - MPR

Those are typically crap studies. Garbage science to push an agenda.

 

[WolfGain]

Those are typically crap studies. Garbage science to push an agenda.

Probably so

 

[Sworder]

Probably so

Yeah I read through it really quick. I mean there could have been so many different things wrong that lead to his prolactin being elevated. There are no details on logs because they didn't account for crap really.


Okay so that study is crap I will see that. However I do think there is support for kratom causing hyperprolactinemia. But here is the thing, it isn't really the kratom that causes it. It is the decline in testosterone that is then leading to hormonal imbalances between e2 and prl.

 

[kriskringle]

I’m not entirely sure what happened in this thread but Kratom is cool. It’s nothing like prescription opiates. The weakest one... codeine? At 5mg is stronger than any Kratom dose I’ve done.

2-3 capsules is reasonable, and doing 6-8 capsules or more is really a way of getting high, but the withdrawal is as bad as coffee withdrawal. Which is to say it’s pretty addictive. Everyone is different.

 

[Dead]

My head hurts

 

[Sworder]

2-3 capsules is reasonable, and doing 6-8 capsules or more is really a way of getting high, but the withdrawal is as bad as coffee withdrawal. Which is to say it’s pretty addictive. Everyone is different.

I wouldn't even touch kratom for 2-3 capsules. Are you talking about 00 capsules with about 0.5 gram in each?

You don't understand kratom. It is a plant from Indonesia, it is a raw plant. The main alkaloid is at about 1%, so the powder has a very low concentration.
The therapeutic range for kratom is at the 3-6gram range, depending on alkaloid content.

My mom has fibromyalgia and the 3-5 gram range helped her a lot with her chronic pain.

 

[TAKESHI]

The like to smoke a little Durban Poison/Blue god pre workout.

Waiting for someone that doesn’t smoke weed to tell me it’s a bad idea.