Gh general questions

[Dr JIM]

Yes, I have ordered from both sources. HK ta is about twice as long as ab source, but both products seemed to be exactly alike. Ab source International will cost you $129 a kit( I think that's the same as Hk if I remember correctly) but has a domestic option for about $199. If I'm no mistaken a well known member said his buddy's igf came back over 500 on 3iu...

However, must Chinese suppliers that I have spoken to are unaware of any "The Grey Top". But who knows, I trust both guys due to the results I've gotten.

Why is it we only seem to "hear about" these miraculous stories yet the EVIDENCE is rarely if ever posted.

The price per IU is BULLSHIT, (with only one exception IME) NONE of the generic GH I tested contained the weight it was supposed to. In fact at best (even if it is GH) these multi-vial KITs contain roughly ONE THRID of what is listed on their label.

I've never found a BARGIN GH product bc these UGLs cut the quality quantity NO EXCEPTIONS IME.

JUST BUY PHARM GRADE GUYS

 

[biggerben69]

Isn't another very good practical reason why most legit GH is Serostim is that most GH products require 2-8 degrees C?

All pens/cartridge systems, and even most vials as well, except serostim?

Serostim is to be stored at 15-30 C/59-86 F....Serono EMD has that technology/feature patented. I don't know how brands of GH are
decided to be scripted for the affliction they are.
I know for the black market the room temp thing works out perfectly for the Black Market. I have an easier time swallowing the line that the gh has been cold shipped and stored cold when it's uttered by a licensed MD instead of the guys I know selling GH who claim the gh has never left the cold air after it was diverted when it was snatched up at a "comimg out" party when it was discovered while looking for more tp to wipe the urine off the seat before he sat to pee.
Some guys say its not a big deal as far as keeping the other brands cold. Guys say they are gonna store their serostim in the fridge. I'll look again but it doesn't say to store at the temps I gave OR in the Ice Box!!
The same guys say that the gh won't degrade in steril water when not using the entire 18iu vial at once. Well Serostim comes in a 4mg 84iu kit for multi inj. and the sterile water is replaced with bacteriostatic water? I'll listen to the good people turning out that sweet serostim, thanks!

 

[heady muscle]

Yes, the sellers are usually HIV/AIDS patients. The average price in the bodybuilding world is $500 atm. $4 per IU. This price was the price my former coaches told me not to exceed. Some people think $500 is a great price. And yes there are pharmacies out there, but the product will have a name and not be categorized by a colored top.

for real Serostim your paying 500?

 

[naturalkon]

for real Serostim your paying 500?

Only if your getting it straight from the junkies hands.

 

[mojuice87]

for real Serostim your paying 500?

Yes and yes I am getting it directly from the hiv patient. I actually pay less. And I'm certain it is real because I've taken him to the pharmacy to pick it up in the.

 

[mojuice87]

I would never pay more than $500 for the stuff.

 

[musclehead320]

I get them for 500 myself also. Its totally worth it.there is no GH like Sero .saizen is the only other GH I would run besides seros these days.

 

[DREADS]

Can't you get GH from anti aging clinics etc in the USA

In Australia there are several where they give you a blood test, test your igf and then give you a script for pharm grade GH from the chemist

 

[lunk666]

If the GH isn't US FDA approved GH stay away. There are no real Chinese generics right now and getting your hands on Chinese pharma is harder than getting US pharma. Your best bet is to find US FDA approved pharmaceutical HGH! Everything else is a waste of your money.

There are lots of test out there on the grey tops? ANd on this site many WKM use and like the greys... DO you think they are fake and why?

 

[lunk666]

Damn Pharmaceutical uni or bi dosing vials of GH, with multicolored tops, sold as "kits", fella this guy is unequivocally feeding you a line of SHIT.

Hey can I pick the color cap I want, lol!

So do you also think that the testing results on TPs black tops is just a total scam? I mean if what your saying is true it wouldnt even be possible for the black tops to produce such labs in a person. Thank you Doc for any input.

 

[Dr JIM]

You can't judge a book by its color and you can't judge GH by the color of its CAP.

 

[DaGooner]

Well this is an age old argument. I have always looked as generic being the wrong term here. I like counterfeit better and there are always different levels of counterfeits there are the really close to the original and the really bad ones that are way off. In the end they are not the real thing this makes it counterfeit not generic. Color caps = Knock offs.

 

[lunk666]

Well this is an age old argument. I have always looked as generic being the wrong term here. I like counterfeit better and there are always different levels of counterfeits there are the really close to the original and the really bad ones that are way off. In the end they are not the real thing this makes it counterfeit not generic. Color caps = Knock offs.

Either way if the test results come back the same then wouldnt it just be a product built at a different plant? There are people out there paying for gh serum and later igf-1 testing on these, furthermore enough to say wait a minute. And if a test comes back good again and again how could you put the "fake" title on it without calling the test fake? So for shits and giggles if I get baselines on myself without any hgh in my system and then I use 10 ius and go at the right time and get the test and the numbers come out as if it where the same as a certain US band name and I then go back in 4-6 weeks for igf-1 numbers and also get great numbers there ,then how could the said generic be fake? PLease explain this to me with science and help me (if your willing to understand your reasoning behind your though of all generics being fake. To me real is in the test results and like any med if it test to be the said med than sure enough that is what it is. I believe the proof is in the testing and that there are many out there you have a vested interest in the generics being fake because they are in fact moving name brand US HGH and if the generics are out there at a third of the price and test positive at higher quality then why would any one want the US brand. And yes I now there are lots of fakes out there also and being burned could leave a sour enough taste for anyone to say anything. Thank you

 

[DaGooner]

Not saying they can't produce positive Bloodwork data. There have been quite a few tested on this forum showing different molecular weight or when close in weight they are under dosed. There is also a thing called side effects that differ from generic to pharm. Those rips had my hands all jacked up and I swelled up like a balloon. A generic drug will have the exact molecular structure as the original. I can get a handmade Rolex knock off from Switzerland that cost close to a grand it will fool most pawn shops and even experts. The average guy would be completely fooled. So do I have a Rolex or a knock off. i am not saying not to do generics I have. I definitely hands down wil take Seros over any colored top I can get the same results with 2 ius then the 6 I need to take of the generics. That is the test one should do check your numbers with2 ius Pharm vs 2 ius of favorite generic. I can almost guarantee what the results would be.

 

[lunk666]

Not saying they can't produce positive Bloodwork data. There have been quite a few tested on this forum showing different molecular weight or when close in weight they are under dosed. There is also a thing called side effects that differ from generic to pharm. Those rips had my hands all jacked up and I swelled up like a balloon. A generic drug will have the exact molecular structure as the original. I can get a handmade Rolex knock off from Switzerland that cost close to a grand it will fool most pawn shops and even experts. The average guy would be completely fooled. So do I have a Rolex or a knock off. i am not saying not to do generics I have. I definitely hands down wil take Seros over any colored top I can get the same results with 2 ius then the 6 I need to take of the generics. That is the test one should do check your numbers with2 ius Pharm vs 2 ius of favorite generic. I can almost guarantee what the results would be.

Very good thank you

 

[naturalkon]

Either way if the test results come back the same then wouldnt it just be a product built at a different plant? There are people out there paying for gh serum and later igf-1 testing on these, furthermore enough to say wait a minute. And if a test comes back good again and again how could you put the "fake" title on it without calling the test fake? So for shits and giggles if I get baselines on myself without any hgh in my system and then I use 10 ius and go at the right time and get the test and the numbers come out as if it where the same as a certain US band name and I then go back in 4-6 weeks for igf-1 numbers and also get great numbers there ,then how could the said generic be fake? PLease explain this to me with science and help me (if your willing to understand your reasoning behind your though of all generics being fake. To me real is in the test results and like any med if it test to be the said med than sure enough that is what it is. I believe the proof is in the testing and that there are many out there you have a vested interest in the generics being fake because they are in fact moving name brand US HGH and if the generics are out there at a third of the price and test positive at higher quality then why would any one want the US brand. And yes I now there are lots of fakes out there also and being burned could leave a sour enough taste for anyone to say anything. Thank you

Why don't you quit all the mental masturbation and just buy some. You have clearly made up your mind.

 

[lunk666]

Why don't you quit all the mental masturbation and just buy some. You have clearly made up your mind.

I did belive it or not I have it now and Im thankful for all the info I got from here to make my desision. I mean I know the pharma grade is better but right now I have to go with the generics. I won't be blabbering about it anymore. I'm impatient I know. A work in progress I am.

 

[LuckyMan]

If the GH isn't US FDA approved GH stay away. There are no real Chinese generics right now and getting your hands on Chinese pharma is harder than getting US pharma. Your best bet is to find US FDA approved pharmaceutical HGH! Everything else is a waste of your money.

Come on, man. We are on underground market. It's miracle if you have real FDA licensed growth hormone source.

 

[LuckyMan]

Only if your getting it straight from the junkies hands.

500 is normal price for real Serostim. Actually my limit is $500 too. Right now I'm on Novotrop it cost me 300$ per kit and they are GTG

 

[lunk666]

OK I have a good question about Gh. I've never tried this but some say that spot injections with gh will make the muscle grow? Is this for real and has anyone tried this with success?