Generic causing red lumps at injection site?

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Ok meso does anyone know why generic growth causes a slightlfuly painful red lump around the injection area? I find that around my core the lumps take a bit longer to go away as opposed to my triceps or thighs. I'm currently running taitropin an have been for a while now. I'm getting great results so don't plan on stopping anytime soon.
 
Probably a reaction to one of the excipients being unstable in heat. It gets broken down when shipped. Some people never get it. Try intramuscular if u have not already
 
Does it have anything to do with the amino acid chain being 192 instead of 191 ? I'm just starting to read up
 
It has happened to me with all of the gh I've ran. Including genotropin. Some were worse then others....
 
just a reaction to a foreign material then? im very interested in the blk tops ur running.. how did you stumble along ur source pmac? if you dont want to talk about it here PM me.. thanks bro
 
Ok meso does anyone know why generic growth causes a slightlfuly painful red lump around the injection area? I find that around my core the lumps take a bit longer to go away as opposed to my triceps or thighs. I'm currently running taitropin an have been for a while now. I'm getting great results so don't plan on stopping anytime soon.

Ok there are just a few thingS that may help .
FIRST what are the likely possibilities?
1) An infection
2) An "allergic" reaction
3) Early signs of an unrelated illness


INFECTIONS

1) Infections like many things in medicine are dependent upon the type of bacteria, their number and the hosts ability to kill the bug BEFORE obvious signs of infection begin.

2) Are often associated with a palpable temperature increase at the site of redness.

3) May be painful IF enough tissue is involved (So an IM deltoid shot that hurts with deltoid motion is strongly suggestive of an infection.

4) The onset of "redness" typically occurs within 24 hours of pinning

5) Are classically associated with a fever

6) The redness has a tendency to dissipate from the middle outward (referred to as a centrifugal pattern)

7) The redness and swelling follows the lymphatic course as infections worsen

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ALLERGIES

Understand many allergies are the result of a specific PROTEINS being viewed by the immune system as foreign! So what type of PEDS have a protein based structure?
All PEPTIDES, IGF analogs, INSULIN, and rHGH

1) If you have ever been tested for TB the injection given is actually a protein called Purified Protein Derivitive. Other examples are RAST tests used as screening tools to evaluate patients w "allergies". When the site is innoculated with a suspected allergen, if the patient is "allergic" the that compound swelling occurs WITH OR WITHOUT REDNESS!

2) Generally the reaction maintains the SAME DENSITY of redness from the middle outward

3) Changing the depth of the injection (from Sub-Q to IM) does NOT effect the immune response itself, but rather hides it.

4) Most allergic reactions are very self limiting. Meaning the "reaction" may last a day or two and only rarely does it extend beyond 72 hours without other signs of "serum sickness" developing.

5) As I mentioned above many "allergic" reactions occur WITHOUT the development of redness!

6) Many allergic conditions are associated with itching

7) Skin temperature changes are generally NOT noted in an allergic RX

7) So chances are IF your pinning a protein derivative PED and develop swelling, redness within roughly 24 hours the likelihood is quite high your "allergic" to some of the proteins peptides or their fragments contained within that vail!

JIM
 
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Ok there are just a few thingS that may help .
FIRST what are the likely possibilities?
1) An infection
2) An "allergic" reaction
3) Early signs of an unrelated illness


INFECTIONS

1) Infections like many things in medicine are dependent upon the type of bacteria, their number and the hosts ability to kill the bug BEFORE obvious signs of infection begin.

2) Are often associated with a palpable temperature increase at the site of redness.

3) May be painful IF enough tissue is involved (So an IM deltoid shot that hurts with deltoid motion is strongly suggestive of an infection.

4) The onset of "redness" typically occurs within 24 hours of pinning

5) Are classically associated with a fever

6) The redness has a tendency to dissipate from the middle outward (referred to as a centrifugal pattern)

7) The redness and swelling follows the lymphatic course as infections worsen

============================================================

ALLERGIES

Understand many allergies are the result of a specific PROTEINS being viewed by the immune system as foreign! So what type of PEDS have a protein based structure?
All PEPTIDES, IGF analogs, INSULIN, and rHGH

1) If you have ever been tested for TB the injection given is actually a protein called Purified Protein Derivitive. Other examples are RAST tests used as screening tools to evaluate patients w "allergies". When the site is innoculated with a suspected allergen, if the patient is "allergic" the that compound swelling occurs WITH OR WITHOUT REDNESS!

2) Generally the reaction maintains the SAME DENSITY of redness from the middle outward

3) Changing the depth of the injection (from Sub-Q to IM) does NOT effect the immune response itself, but rather hides it.

4) Most allergic reactions are very self limiting. Meaning the "reaction" may last a day or two and only rarely does it extend beyond 72 hours without other signs of "serum sickness" developing.

5) As I mentioned above many "allergic" reactions occur WITHOUT the development of redness!

6) Many allergic conditions are associated with itching

7) Skin temperature changes are generally NOT noted in an allergic RX

7) So chances are IF your pinning a protein derivative PED and develop swelling, redness within roughly 24 hours the likelihood is quite high your "allergic" to some of the proteins peptides or their fragments contained within that vail!

JIM
Thank you dr Jim! The redness does occur within 24 hours and can sometimes last for up to 5 days. I find that when pinning in the core area the redness is worse then when pinning the triceps and quads. There is sometimes a sharp pain associated with the lump which has lasted the full 5 days. I have been too that 192 may also be the culprit. Thanks

Pmac
 
Thank you dr Jim! The redness does occur within 24 hours and can sometimes last for up to 5 days. I find that when pinning in the core area the redness is worse then when pinning the triceps and quads. There is sometimes a sharp pain associated with the lump which has lasted the full 5 days. I have been too that 192 may also be the culprit. Thanks

Pmac

It's really difficult to say what is responsible bc generic GH is rarely ultra-filtrated to remove peptides, isolated Amino Acids, rGHG aggregates or dimers. The fact is most of the time "generic Gh" has no GH in it at all!

Send me a vial and I'll have a colleague test it.

WARNING WARNING WARNING
You may not appreciate the results, but I promise they will be legit!

PM me if interested!
 
It's really difficult to say what is responsible bc generic GH is rarely ultra-filtrated to remove peptides, isolated Amino Acids, rGHG aggregates or dimers. The fact is most of the time "generic Gh" has no GH in it at all!

Send me a vial and I'll have a colleague test it.

WARNING WARNING WARNING
You may not appreciate the results, but I promise they will be legit!

PM me if interested!


Do it @pmac928 !!
 
Good shit Dr.Jim that could save someone a lot of money Hgh is not cheap.I would hate to find out I got a few thousand worth of take hgh!
 
Good shit Dr.Jim that could save someone a lot of money Hgh is not cheap.I would hate to find out I got a few thousand worth of take hgh!

While I don't know of any. ONE PERSON who has been scammed out a few thousand for BUNK GH, I do know of 3 "group buys" that netted the scammers close to 5K on each occasion.
 
Ok meso does anyone know why generic growth causes a slightlfuly painful red lump around the injection area? I find that around my core the lumps take a bit longer to go away as opposed to my triceps or thighs. I'm currently running taitropin an have been for a while now. I'm getting great results so don't plan on stopping anytime soon.

Started running Hygetropin 12days ago at 2iu per day to get started. After a week, I started getting the lump around injection site. Lump appears approximately 18 hours after injection and lasts for another 24-36 hours. While researching HGH, a few people pointed out that 10% of users have this reaction. Many folks said the reaction will end after a month or so. Just my $0.02.
 
I'm still running generics and I think my las kit may have been broken down by the heat during shipping cause I have no issues at all this month. So far anyway
 
  1. Started running Hygetropin 12days ago at 2iu per day to get started. After a week, I started getting the lump around injection site. Lump appears approximately 18 hours after injection and lasts for another 24-36 hours. While researching HGH, a few people pointed out that 10% of users have this reaction. Many folks said the reaction will end after a month or so. Just my $0.02.

Sounds like a typical "allergy" to one or more contents in the HGH your pinning fella.

These allergies are usually from "foreign proteins" which are the consequence of an uncontrolled and inconsistent production process, IME.

Proof of that lies in MS testing on GH generics that reveal multiple non-GH peptide peaks
 
You know what that's one generic I've never tested, on second thought send me a vial. PM me your email, if interested!
Jim
 
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