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Will you get the covid vaccine ?
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malfeasance
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I didn't make it past your first one, because I realized when I read it that you do not understand what you are reading.JAMA internal medicine? Who are they?
Here are some studies from people we all know-
Ivermectin for Prevention and Treatment of COVID-19 Infection: A Systematic Review, Meta-analysis, and Trial Sequential Analysis to Inform Clinical Guidelines - PMC
Repurposed medicines may have a role against the SARS-CoV-2 virus. The antiparasitic ivermectin, with antiviral and anti-inflammatory properties, has now been tested in numerous clinical trials. We assessed the efficacy of ivermectin treatment in ...www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Sorry, HDH, but there is not much use debating this with you. You don't even know what JAMA is, and the first review of available data does not support your claim.
I could waste hours going through the remainder of the links you provided, but I suspect you gave them the same superficial review without understanding what you are reading, so I just don't see the payoff for investing that kind of time when you obviously are not.
Ayylmao100
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Vaccines experts are, yes. Much like my mechanic is more knowledgeable than most people about how to fix a car.
Zerg
Member
The guy who invented the new vaccine say the risk to heathy may be greater than the benefis, but he can't say for sure because they are hiding and manipulating the data.
malfeasance
Member
"The guy who invented the new vaccine . . ."
Now there is a load of bullshit wrapped up in a short phrase.
Now there is a load of bullshit wrapped up in a short phrase.
Zerg
Member
If you can get past the overt bias and propaganda of the Atlantic this is a good read.
www.theatlantic.com
The Vaccine Scientist Spreading Vaccine Misinformation
Robert Malone claims to have invented mRNA technology. Why is he trying so hard to undermine its use?
Actually, no, that's not my issue. My issue is this little game you're playing cherry picking my post to make it look like I only had a single issue with the study and then skipping the rest.
Here is the part you didn't quote-
It was also done in a lockdown quarantine camp, nothing deepstate about that.
They didn't even use the correct protocol. They used ivermectin and standard care. That means there is nothing to stop the virus from copying itself.
This is all a clue for you.
So you just disregard all the medicines that work?
Sure you do, it destroys the whole narrative if just one of them work.
So, lets start with the correct protocol, here is a solid protocol from Dr Zelenco's website-
Treatment Protocol – Dr. Vladimir Zelenko MD
Moderate / High risk patients
- Elemental Zinc 50-100mg once a day for 7 days
- Vitamin C 1000mg 1 time a day for 7 days
- Vitamin D3 10000iu once a day for 7 days or 50000iu once a day for 1-2 days
- Azithromycin 500mg 1 time a day for 5 days or
- Doxycycline 100mg 2 times a day for 7 days
- Hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) 200mg 2 times a day for 5-7 days and/or
- Ivermectin 0.4-0.5mg/kg/day for 5-7 days Either or both HCQ and IVM can be used, and if one only, the second agent may be added after about 2 days of treatment if obvious recovery has not yet been observed etc.
In the study you posted, all they used was Ivermectin. It doesn't work by itself and they know it. It works in conjunction with other meds. Ivermectin/HCQ just transport the zinc to the cell which stops the virus from copying itself.
It's you that doesn't understand what your reading.
The remark about the worst case scenario is because there was a good chance those people would not have recovered regardless. How does it work for everyone else? Also, not my biggest talking point.
I also talked about many protocols that work but you just ignore it.
Guess what pal, there are thousands of doctors out there saving people's lives every day with these meds.
Here is a list of places you can find a doc as well as they have treated thousands each with hardly any deaths at all.
- www.AAPSOnline.org
- www.Sherwood.TV
- www.MeehanMD.com
- www.BudesonideWorks.com
- www.SynergyHealthDPC.com
- myfreedoctor.com
- vladimirzelenkomd.com
- TheMedicalRebel.com – Dr. Lee Merritt – Treating COVID-19 Patients in Nebraska and Iowa
- latitudeclinic.com
See with the kiddy games again? If you have something to say to me just quote me directly. I'm not much for the games and I prefer to look a man in the eyes when I'm talking to him.
Please, enough of the passive aggressive little baby bullshit.
You will have to explain here bro, this was on the first Ivermectin study-
Conclusions:
Moderate-certainty evidence finds that large reductions in COVID-19 deaths are possible using ivermectin. Using ivermectin early in the clinical course may reduce numbers progressing to severe disease. The apparent safety and low cost suggest that ivermectin is likely to have a significant impact on the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic globally.And this-
Since the start of the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic, both observational and randomized studies have evaluated ivermectin as a treatment for, and as prophylaxis against, COVID-19 infection. A review by the Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance summarized findings from 27 studies on the effects of ivermectin for the prevention and treatment of COVID-19 infection, concluding that ivermectin “demonstrates a strong signal of therapeutic efficacy” against COVID-19.9 Another recent review found that ivermectin reduced deaths by 75%.10 Despite these findings, the National Institutes of Health in the United States recently stated that “there are insufficient data to recommend either for or against the use of ivermectin for the treatment of COVID-19,”11 and the World Health Organization recommends against its use outside of clinical trials.12
Dude, there is shit all over the net about Dr Malone. There are many interviews with him coming out and saying don't take the shit.
I guess you want me to look that up for you too...
Where did you go bro?
I'll bet you opened up some of my links and saw one of the Ivermectin studies.
Here is a video just for you. It's only 4mins long, tell me what you think about what this doctor has to say about many studies and hands on use of this medicine.
"""Pierre Kory, M.D., Associate Professor of Medicine at St. Luke's Aurora Medical Center, delivers passionate testimony during the Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs Committee hearing on "Early Outpatient Treatment: An Essential Part of a COVID-19 Solution, Part II." """
2 years ago you would have had my instant respect with the DR title on a bodybuilding forum. Unfortunately, your title has the opposite effect when you talk and have deep state on your breath. Lots of people will listen to you but you have the wrong info.
No, I'm not saying you are aligned with a deep state conspiracy but I am saying you fall right in line like many others that spread this false information.
There is plenty of time to redeem yourself man. Being a DR, you should be able to reference and understand what's being said here.
Here are some more Doctors that you may want to take the time to listen to. Their credentials are all listed at the beginnings. They cover everything from masks to lockdowns to vaccines and murders-
Dr. McCullough - The Never Needed To Be Lockdowns, The Covid Myth
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Dr. Zelenko - Forget Class Action Lawsuits There Will Be Tribunals, What If Cures Already Exist?
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Dr. Zelenko - [DS]/Big Pharma Hid The Cures From We The People,Choice Has Been Made, Collapse
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Dr. Zelenko - The [DS] Did Not Reach Their Goal, There Is Hope For Those Who Received The Death Jab
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https://brandnewtube.com/watch/dr-shankara-chetty-how-longterm-c-19-vaxx-fatalities-will-play-out_Dndb9nkxtFjToaF.html?fbclid=IwAR30XNi0LbGYFGdB-RtPGs-8hYqmXJeSvFaLl_qHM7zWOyPl0d7Bj_uct-0
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Rido
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But what do a majority of the healthcare workers say? Idk man. This always gets whack. citing websites vs studies. Conspiracy theories. Shit makes me sad but we are overpopulated anyway
Hightower
Member
This means that the vaccine will create natural selection according to Darwin. We will be much smaller.
I'll tell you what healthcare workers say. They said fuk no I am not taking that NEW vaccine because I am not CRAZY - but they were forced to and went ahead with it trusting the establishment. I know enough people in the medical field to know they are the LAST ONES to take a new vaccine. They usually dont want to touch em for at least 3-4 years. I know PLENTY of medical folks that still have not taken the vax.
No - people getting sick and some living and some dying would be NATURAL SELECTION. Hint the word is "Natural"... Now, What it MAY create is an entire multi-generational evolution of fukked up people and not a single living person remaining with normal DNA.. Maybe.. Maybe not. And IT COULD BE that the folks that don't have a bad reaction to the vaccine are folks who the vaccine dose does not work on due to application error, temp unk general conditions, or even conditions specific to a particular individual. But then again, that would mean that the vaccine was never required in those cases anyway right... At least not as for the sold purpose of Covid mitigation. I digress..
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Based upon CDC data 75% of HCP are fully vaccinated. Those that are not work in low risk clinics rather than hospitals bc the latter require vaccination w few exceptions.
And IME the majority of hospital based HCP taking care of COVID patients were anything but reluctant to be vaccinated prior to FDA approval.
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I would again like to refer to the Mexico City Swine Flu (Spanish Flu) outbreak back in 2009. You know that resurgence of one of the most deadly contagions in modern times occurring back in 1918 or whatever. The one that killed 250K people per day around the world when it peaked way back when. And in a world of only 2 Billion total population that's a considerable figure. It just strikes me funny that when they developed that H1N1 vaccine there were NO IMPERIAL ORDERS to take your jabb or else.. They were more like come and get it if ya wanna take yer chances whatever as they just added to the annual flu vaccine. While I would like to speculate that OPTION TO TAKE was because they never get a flu vaccine even close each year anyway, but actually, this was a first in a while chance to addend that current flu technology to a specific absolutely known strain... So its not like they were even going to miss the vax target..
It should also be noted that over the years since the early 1900's Spanish Flu outbreak there have been many instances other than the 2009 Mexico City occurrence. Consider there was a Spanish Flu outbreak in the U.S. in 1975 and I know this because I survived that one after getting dragged thru the toy isle in the drug store to get my consolation GI Joe toy kicking and screaming all the in for a week in the hospital.... Shit I don't think they had ANY flu vaccines back then. Funny cause no one else in my house went to the hospital that week. Must have been all the cigarette smoke in the air protecting them..
And what does that say about "Transmissibility".
But really in 2010, they didn't ask and didn't need to because it was shortly after the Mexico City incident that the more docile H1N1 just started showing up in major cities around the world. Involuntary vaccination perhaps.? Does that ring a bell (Omicron anyone)... But why the long wait this time?? Too much bickering up at the ET high council these days??
SO CAN SOMEONE AGAIN TELL ME WHY THE COVID VAX WAS SO PRESSING...? THAT THIS VACCINE IS SO GAWD AWEFUL IMPORTANT TO TAKE.? ANYONE? BUELLER?
Did they just want to take an opportunity to take a stabb at the incredible, edible COMMON COLD.?!? Cause I can guarantee you that if they would have tried to vaccinate the more well known SARS & MERS *Corona Viruses* (30 &45% kill rates on those), the side effects might have indeed proven more transparent one could speculate...
The bottom line is that Corona Virus Spike Proteins are no good for anyone. The million dollar question will be would it have been better or not to contact it naturally? Because truly, introducing a vaccine to the body is a real BRUTE-FORCED SYSTEM CIRCUMVENTION. Because when you apply a vaccine as an IM injection, this is not the normal route in which a body would normally contract these types of contagions. Which basically means you ARE COMPLETELY DEFENSELESS TO IT. So you can imagine there are most definitely going to be different outcomes for vaccine recipients and regardless as to its actual efficacy and shortcomings. This will be determined sooner or later there is simply no escaping that fact.
Really makes you wonder if they tried to old squirt in the nose vax method with partial spikes, as after all corona appears to have an affinity for the olfactory nerve to brain pathway.. Or do all viruses take this brain path from inception??
In terms of the potential damage COVID can cause, there will always remain the question at to whether the vaccine does JACK SHIT. Because truly we were all running around spreading ALPHA COVID in 2019 and while it gave me hell for 6 months, I saw a couple guys it nearly killed in 2019. They literally had to duke it out in the hospital against a disease that no one could identify. At least technically as the info was still held way up high. Did Covid essentially get everyone it wanted regardless of the vaccine. Was the primary suspect population already ate up by the time the vaccine was released. How do you explain "break thru" any other way - really.. So on the one hand you could even speculate that Covid killed who it wanted regardless of vaccination. But then how would you explain a 10year old having a heart attack the day after receiving his vaccination? While it again boils us down to viral loading and what would have been the better method to attempt to mitigate Covid as a society?
Even is the Tom Fukkery of mRNA vax technology was even close to achieving its said goal of virus protection, what will the cost be putting some bastard partial spike from hell in the body, and all the unknown consequence of the method of application. Would we even have achieved OMICRON without going thru all the vaccination protocols and a world of petri dish people? Is Omicron really "lighter on the body" or is it really just less deadly up front for folks that have had at least ALPHA or a VAX...
Time will tell these tales. All this bickering aside we must not forget to remember to press the WHY this all happened. Which is the real goal of all the gas lighting.. Is to make everyone loose focus that this is a manmade issue. And WHY did it happen in the first place. And never mind those US biolabs in Ukraine. Nothing to see there..
It should also be noted that over the years since the early 1900's Spanish Flu outbreak there have been many instances other than the 2009 Mexico City occurrence. Consider there was a Spanish Flu outbreak in the U.S. in 1975 and I know this because I survived that one after getting dragged thru the toy isle in the drug store to get my consolation GI Joe toy kicking and screaming all the in for a week in the hospital.... Shit I don't think they had ANY flu vaccines back then. Funny cause no one else in my house went to the hospital that week. Must have been all the cigarette smoke in the air protecting them..
And what does that say about "Transmissibility".But really in 2010, they didn't ask and didn't need to because it was shortly after the Mexico City incident that the more docile H1N1 just started showing up in major cities around the world. Involuntary vaccination perhaps.? Does that ring a bell (Omicron anyone)... But why the long wait this time?? Too much bickering up at the ET high council these days??
SO CAN SOMEONE AGAIN TELL ME WHY THE COVID VAX WAS SO PRESSING...? THAT THIS VACCINE IS SO GAWD AWEFUL IMPORTANT TO TAKE.? ANYONE? BUELLER?
Did they just want to take an opportunity to take a stabb at the incredible, edible COMMON COLD.?!? Cause I can guarantee you that if they would have tried to vaccinate the more well known SARS & MERS *Corona Viruses* (30 &45% kill rates on those), the side effects might have indeed proven more transparent one could speculate...
The bottom line is that Corona Virus Spike Proteins are no good for anyone. The million dollar question will be would it have been better or not to contact it naturally? Because truly, introducing a vaccine to the body is a real BRUTE-FORCED SYSTEM CIRCUMVENTION. Because when you apply a vaccine as an IM injection, this is not the normal route in which a body would normally contract these types of contagions. Which basically means you ARE COMPLETELY DEFENSELESS TO IT. So you can imagine there are most definitely going to be different outcomes for vaccine recipients and regardless as to its actual efficacy and shortcomings. This will be determined sooner or later there is simply no escaping that fact.
Really makes you wonder if they tried to old squirt in the nose vax method with partial spikes, as after all corona appears to have an affinity for the olfactory nerve to brain pathway.. Or do all viruses take this brain path from inception??
In terms of the potential damage COVID can cause, there will always remain the question at to whether the vaccine does JACK SHIT. Because truly we were all running around spreading ALPHA COVID in 2019 and while it gave me hell for 6 months, I saw a couple guys it nearly killed in 2019. They literally had to duke it out in the hospital against a disease that no one could identify. At least technically as the info was still held way up high. Did Covid essentially get everyone it wanted regardless of the vaccine. Was the primary suspect population already ate up by the time the vaccine was released. How do you explain "break thru" any other way - really.. So on the one hand you could even speculate that Covid killed who it wanted regardless of vaccination. But then how would you explain a 10year old having a heart attack the day after receiving his vaccination? While it again boils us down to viral loading and what would have been the better method to attempt to mitigate Covid as a society?
Even is the Tom Fukkery of mRNA vax technology was even close to achieving its said goal of virus protection, what will the cost be putting some bastard partial spike from hell in the body, and all the unknown consequence of the method of application. Would we even have achieved OMICRON without going thru all the vaccination protocols and a world of petri dish people? Is Omicron really "lighter on the body" or is it really just less deadly up front for folks that have had at least ALPHA or a VAX...
Time will tell these tales. All this bickering aside we must not forget to remember to press the WHY this all happened. Which is the real goal of all the gas lighting.. Is to make everyone loose focus that this is a manmade issue. And WHY did it happen in the first place. And never mind those US biolabs in Ukraine. Nothing to see there..
I will agree it was an interesting torque this situation created and was a first in terms of early vaccine acceptance in the medical field. This was because of the MSM fed 24/7 FIRE SHOW, and in combination of fear of loosing ones job. Shit it might even have had to do with some folks actually caring about helping people in the field they chose. And lets not forget the ones that WANTED to get vaccinated for the sake and lure of avoiding Covid Infection. Overall I would say more like HOPEFULNESS. So let's HOPE that the vax is not harming. I certainly do.
But you are not a man of HOPE are you now..?!?. Data, results, statistics. Right.? So I imagine you will be a good information source as things develop.. I bet you know the number of days it took the powers that be to publicly acknowledge that the Vax does not prevent the virus, but only potentially mitigates severity.
I also will not omit the point that our current medical standards have dropped considerably and with consideration of all the 9 month schooled and completely inexperienced "Nurses" running around these days. And I am not talking about a result of Covid - This has been going on for some time. Standards are on a decreasing trend IME...
"A recent Johns Hopkins study claims more than 250,000 people in the U.S. die every year from medical errors. Other reports claim the numbers to be as high as 440,000. Medical errors are the third-leading cause of death after heart disease and cancer."
While this is all happening via a number of ways other than Nurse Ratchet mis-dosing you, I'd say that's more than a few well known diseases combined.
Rido
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I am a healthcare worker and friends in all states have taken the vaccine and are pro vaccine. Both in Red and blue states.
And no. I am not liberal etc/only hang out with liberals. I follow off of studies.
MisterSuperGod
New Member
Hey, Jim. Long time, no see. Question for you.
This sealing of safety date for 90 years or whatever it was that Pfizer wanted to do, is this the first time such a request has been made from a drug manufacturer?
i'm genuinely curious if it has ever been requested prior to this. If so, for what and by whom?
Whether healthcare workers are cautious or not does not have to do with their political affiliation and hair color so much as their age and family experience. A lot of times in the past folks chose careers because their parents did that, and less as a means of making money for a job. This usually makes a difference. The biggest difference is the AGE of the peer group I suspect But again some younger folks (back when nuclear families existed) operate on parental professional advisement. So what I would speculate is that you are simply not aware of these PAST REASONs as they may pre-date you or your peers experientially. SO I would suggest that cautious professionals have either seen the past folly, or have second hand information. Apparently some shit went down before. But PEOPLE tend to have short memories as a general body. Hell it was not only a decade or less ago that the information about certain years of smallpox vaccine (I think it was) being based on some type of cancer got publicized. It was actually documented to some degree that anyone who received those vaccines got cancer genes which are also suspected to pass down to their offspring.
I can say I have already lived long enough to see curriculum in public schools change completely like a different past did not even happen. We now see statues and monuments removed. Books are not only burning but now being digitized in which case NOTHING REMAINS REAL at that point. We now see LIES TOLD as gospel. WHAT the establishment chooses to program people with is apparently pretty dynamic
... So regardless of ANY of the factors I have mentioned, I would just suggest you are not privy to another experience group. But you can trust me when I tell you - YOU SHOULD BE LEARY. And guess what, while I don't have a study in front of me, a reference point to grab on to, I DO have a MEMORY. And I recall the experiences, tales, my shock and amazement, and my research at the time well enough that I will not question my sanity. Because NO - It does not sound sane to question whether your government would allow bad things to happen to you. And they wouldn't as a whole. But at the same time they do. It's not a far trip to stumble upon finding yourself as no different than a lab rat in a cage. Now go and check the civil legal protections the medical field is afforded by state and federal statute and the built in self protection mechanism the field enjoys unto itself. And then you will know why it is that "STATISTICz" SEEM TO SATISFY...Some powers are so intent on having people forget the past, that they go to lengths to create bullshit like "Mandella Effect" not necc. with the intention you will buy it. But more like the intention of driving you crazy if they draw you in enough to begin to question your own mind and those lying eyes of yours.
Why don't you consult the head of the FDA division (or CDC/whatever I dont recall precisely) who was in charge of developing the HPV vaccine not too long ago that came out publicly after said vaccine's completion and implementation and stated the risk outweighs the benefit and she was just disappeared away with the tides. So really you can not. And if you could track her down you will find her silenced at this point obviously.
And when you have the CREATOR of the PCR test publicly stating that its uselessly inaccurate for the purpose of diagnosing Covid at the capacity they were attempting, AND SIMPLY IGNORED... Well that's alarming.
And when you have Pfizer attempting to completely circumvent the Freedom of Information Act refusing to release white paper data via means ranging from convoluting an Either Hundred THOUSAND PAGE document, to flat out refusing and/or stalling on court ordered decisions. That's alarming too.
I would simply suggest that similar events of sets of adverse events associated with new vaccine rollouts over the years have always occurred. Its a lot less potent to look back at statistics WHEN IT WAS NOT YOU. Look at any drug study and you will see a certain number of folks that even died. But for some reason that just doesn't seem to strike concern in people. Hell, there's weight loss drugs out there today that people are injecting that tell you in the prescribing information that these give a certain number of folks THYROID CANCER. Do the docs tell them that? Nodda.. So I would pose to even wonder what lessened effects does that drug do to a thyroid, etc... Would it surprise you to be a fly on the wall at a Pfizer board meeting and see them all sitting there calling a 0.3% serious event or even death as an adverse reactionary experience "A WIN".. While I just create that out of thin air, you get the point.
Yes vaccines have made huge differences in the history of disease. I just feel fortunate to have the freedom we have to receive still objective information, even be it tagged "Conspiracy", and have the opportunity to REVIEW and CONSIDER said information. And to have the freedom of CHOICE as to my personal decisions for me and mine. Then again, THAT IS WHY COUNTLESS PEOPLE DIED AND WHAT THE FOUNDERS OF OF THE U.S. FOUGHT SO HARD FOR. Let's just be sure and NOT FORGET THAT - is all I am saying...
Hightower
Member
A lot if, I agree. There are more and more opinions that the covid vaccine was not needed, this is just business. The other side defends the vaccine.
