Who here is on a statin?

If anyone is using a statin you use it all the time you don’t cycle off. Once you see the massive benefits in bloods you’d be an idiot to get off.
I get your point, but if on a cruise your LDL is 60 without a statin, why would you keep the statin in? That's my way of thought. Do not use drugs unnecessarily, this is my recommendation, not what I do to be precise.
 
I get your point, but if on a cruise your LDL is 60 without a statin, why would you keep the statin in? That's my way of thought. Do not use drugs unnecessarily, this is my recommendation, not what I do to be precise.
Most have an LDL of 60 only because of the use of a statin. My point being is we pump our bodies with bath tub brew regularly we shouldn’t be afraid of running a statin indefinitely. I get your point I’m just saying I wouldn’t say it applies to statins per se.
 
Most have an LDL of 60 only because of the use of a statin. My point being is we pump our bodies with bath tub brew regularly we shouldn’t be afraid of running a statin indefinitely. I get your point I’m just saying I wouldn’t say it applies to statins per se.
You do have a point there. Hmm and knowing that there's no lower-limit on LDL, running it during a cruise a cruise may actually be better long term. You're right.
 
What studies show ie from large trials (like IMPROVE-IT, FOURIER, and others) consistently show:
  • Every ~39 mg/dL (1 mmol/L) drop in LDL leads to a ~20–25% relative reduction in major CV events
  • The benefit continues even below 70 mg/dL
  • No clear “harm threshold” has been seen down to ~20–30 mg/dL in trials

So the difference between 60 and 40 for example ≈ 10–12% relative reduction in major cardiovascular events.

For me the risk return ratio is in the get ldl as low as possible camp
 
Do you guys continue taking the statin and/ or ezetimibe during a cruise as well, or just while blasting? I currently only take them while blasting
I don't see a reason to take them out if you're not getting sides, however my thought process has always been is your cruise should be your health phase and your health phase should be dropping everything enough that brings your numbers into range. Shouldn't need all the extras to bring them down if on true TRT.

See all these guys with 300+mg cruises but still needing meds to keep them in range, not doing themselves any favors IMO.
 
Funny, my doctor ordered it for my next blood test and I just got a letter from my insurance carrier denying coverage because of its "unproven clinical benefit", lol. I'll have it done nonetheless of course.
Not covering apob is bullshit. Numerous trials have shown it to be more predictive than LDL-C.
 

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