Who here is on a statin?

[Bob1990]

I’ll share my bloodwork next week.
I’ve been on rosuva for 1.5 month now.
My lipids were horrible.
Will see what happens

 

[RockyP]

Thanks for sharing.

Now that you mention it, I don't know if they can prescribe pita in my country. But I know they prescribe rosu, which seems superior to simvastatin. I think I'll wait, complain and try to get pita or rosuvastatin prescribed.

Rosuva is satisfactory. Side effect profile isn’t as good as pita but it’s not terrible. It will have robust effect at 5-10 mg

 

[hexagonal]

Niacin produces poor quality HDL so despite the number rising it’s either going to be useless or even harmful, since “bad” HDL is inflammatory. That’s why all the cardiology guidelines dropped it.

Pita raises HDL quantity AND increases quality. (For anyone curious, APO-I is the marker that indicates HDL quality).

Not sure what supps you’re using to lower cholesterol but I’m going to guess you could buy Pita with the money spent on them and get a better outcome.

Is one of them Red Yeast Rice?

It's not just making bad HDL but one of the terminal metabolites from niacin is known to be inflammatory on its own, so it's a double whammy.

A terminal metabolite of niacin promotes vascular inflammation and contributes to cardiovascular disease risk - PubMed

Despite intensive preventive cardiovascular disease (CVD) efforts, substantial residual CVD risk remains even for individuals receiving all guideline-recommended interventions. Niacin is an essential micronutrient fortified in food staples, but its role in CVD is not well understood. In this...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[thegreatestalltime]

I am (again).
I do not see any risk in low/moderate dose statin therapy.

I also think statins should be a staple supplement during cycle/orals.

For one they are tough on your liver and two certain statins will freely attack your muscle as readily as they will your liver.

No magic pills in this world, everything has its cost.

 

[Ghoul]

For one they are tough on your liver and two certain statins will freely attack your muscle as readily as they will your liver.

No magic pills in this world, everything has its cost.

Show the forum some respect by complying with the rules and writing a new user intro.

 

[hexagonal]

For one they are tough on your liver and two certain statins will freely attack your muscle as readily as they will your liver.

No magic pills in this world, everything has its cost.

Saying "there's no such thing as magic pills" and "everything has a cost" is just spouting some platitudes to back up whatever position you've decided you want to take.

Basing your worldview on pithy sayings doesn't make much sense.

As we understand more and more how and why things work, we are able to make better and better drugs. There are quite a few drugs that have effectively no unwanted side effects when taken at therapeutic doses.

 

[Ghoul]

For one they are tough on your liver and two certain statins will freely attack your muscle as readily as they will your liver.

No magic pills in this world, everything has its cost.

You’re treating a minority risk like a majority outcome.

The old ‘no benefit without cost’ worldview is philosophy, not pharmacology. We measure outcomes, not moral balance.