Wizbang
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what is the GH15 mindset?
MESO-Rx
Anabolic Steroids
What is your opinion on Vigorous Steve?
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AlexDavis43
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Search GH15 and bodybuilding online to find the original articles
Lots of old school BB gear talk - it's a fun read, a little crazy xD
At one point people thought it was written by Nasser but I think that was debunked
regardless if he's paid or not, i think he brings good information and it seems to be an honest attempt at doing so.
I try to be the best at my job as well and I expect to get paid for it. It doesn't mean I don't care about my job.
Not everyone has to jive with someones personality or leadership style, but I don't detect any malice in the information he provides.
I try to be the best at my job as well and I expect to get paid for it. It doesn't mean I don't care about my job.
Not everyone has to jive with someones personality or leadership style, but I don't detect any malice in the information he provides.
Magala
New Member
Honestly. Without vigorous steve and the anabolic round table, kurt and dr dean. The AAS and peptide scene wouldnt be where it is now.
Interms of information i'd say 10/10
Alot of pro's and athletes have benefited from his deep dives and knowledge
Anyone that does any performance enhancing should watch atleast some of his video's
Interms of information i'd say 10/10
Alot of pro's and athletes have benefited from his deep dives and knowledge
Anyone that does any performance enhancing should watch atleast some of his video's
Oh no we would have less crappy peptides and fake natties now claiming they are on bpc instead of 200mg tren a day
Ateam2023
Member
They all just "Parrot" the same shit, really , theres only do many ways to do xyz but? and Vig Steve omfg if i hear him say "UDER" again ffs
AlexDavis43
Member
Brand new member here, I have not started PEDs yet. Just thought I'd throw in my two cents on Steve.
My takeaways from listening to him:
1. I need to get my ass out of bed and do my daily fasted fucking cardio bro.
2. It's important to get my health completely in order first, lipids under control, blood pressure optimal, weight down, then start using drugs.
3. Gotta live the lifestyle, eat right, take the right supplements, not be a fat piece of shit if you want to use gear.
So I think I came across Steve at the right time in my PED journey, before it's even really started. He does seem like an asshole sometimes, but overall I find him funny and do think he cares about the guys listening to him. I think he tries to give good advice. I don't watch his youtube videos, I listen to him on Spotify. I find him a lot more palatable at .8x speed.
My takeaways from listening to him:
1. I need to get my ass out of bed and do my daily fasted fucking cardio bro.
2. It's important to get my health completely in order first, lipids under control, blood pressure optimal, weight down, then start using drugs.
3. Gotta live the lifestyle, eat right, take the right supplements, not be a fat piece of shit if you want to use gear.
So I think I came across Steve at the right time in my PED journey, before it's even really started. He does seem like an asshole sometimes, but overall I find him funny and do think he cares about the guys listening to him. I think he tries to give good advice. I don't watch his youtube videos, I listen to him on Spotify. I find him a lot more palatable at .8x speed.
trtchin
Member
Similar here. I learned tons and tons from him as he was one of the first people I watched and I was a complete beginner. I watched almost all his old videos.
All his new stuff seems to be about peptides which doesn't really interest me so I stopped watching but I did learn a lot.
Spaceman Spiff
Subscriber
Uh no
adrenalytic
Member
I like Steve for the most part. Hate when he talks about "GAC" repeats. IT'S FUCKING CAG REPEATS YOU DUTCH CUNT, C-A-FUCKING-G!
Eddie.
Member
That's just bs. If you're not in a hard cut to utilize specific fat burners which work better when fasted, it's the same thing with doing cardio whatever hour in the day.
This is good advice but not absolutely necessary, you can still start gear and fix lipids, bp and everything else down the road with the right ancillaries. It doesn't matter that much if you manage to get healthy as a natty before start gear since in heavy blasts it's almost impossible to not require ancillaries if you want a not very screwed health outcome.
Depends on the goal. For Steve the right supplements is a list of 100 products that require 400 euro per month, how many do you think they can follow it? Only pros that are sponsored and don't pay any of these.
Also, i'm seeing a lot of fat dudes doing great with gear but they're towards powerlifting and strongman, it's not an absolute to use peds only if you're sub 10% and i think that's a bold statement.
Elektrobot
Member
Abso-fukn-lutely 35 min steady state at 70% max heart rate. The fasted part .... maybe more beneficial if you are using GH. I think the science lines up for it and I get good results doing it like that. I also enjoy it more when I'm fasted.
If I remember from your introduction correctly, you are about 50ish? I think this would be very important, especially so you don't end up polypharmacy, chasing problems created by drugs by using more drugs. If you haven't, get your Lpa and Apob checked. Sign yourself up for a calcium score. See if you can find a pathway to getting some cardiac imaging done. The less bodyfat you have, the less sides you are likely to have. Blood pressure under control is a must. High blood pressure leads to other organ damage, it's not just a cardiac risk.
Don't put racing fuel in a beater and expect high performance.
Elektrobot
Member
This is my personal favorite: Best coach ever
dinfar1337
New Member
i find this guy funny and he probably helps alot of noobs with bloodwork Dr James
just basic info but for a 10 minute video you're better packed on bloodwork and how to use the compound than vig steves 1 hour deep dive into rat studies.
i think on stuff like eq he breaks down most important bloodwork like ferritin iron b12 etc. while having star wars references in there for us nerds
Ignoring that Steve is obviously quite knowledgeable, there is a noticeably growing conflict of interest within the youtube gear/peptides/whatever content creators in general and nobody seems to be willing to address this.
It's not normal that a pretty top tier podcast on youtube can let a guy who actively works at a peptide company do a sales pitch of over an hour on peptides under the guise of education. *cough* Think big *cough*.
It's not normal that a pretty top tier podcast on youtube can let a guy who actively works at a peptide company do a sales pitch of over an hour on peptides under the guise of education. *cough* Think big *cough*.
Liter O' Test
Member
that guy didnt do himself or anyone any favors.
