What did you inject today?

[BabaJagga]

I got a feeling SSA's dbol, adrol and sdrol are G free.
I've only tested the adrol and it was G-free.

Shelf life wise, i think it's the same as China AAS oils.
Shortest shelf life will be EO followed by MCT..

good info, thanks mate. super not needed for my physique or goals but still nice to know

personally ive found var is perfect compound for me so far. dry, veiny look, not too steong (@50mg) but definitelly works, no visible sides (bloods will tell more), ideal summer compound, 0 mental effects, bp
is good...

all these "stronger" orals are ussually wet, with hard to manage sides, gyno possibility, bp issues etc.

 

[Psy-chonaut]

I got a feeling SSA's dbol, adrol and sdrol are G free.
I've only tested the adrol and it was G-free.

Shelf life wise, i think it's the same as China AAS oils.
Shortest shelf life will be EO followed by MCT..

SSA / Hyb same thing - I think my vial of A-drol stinks of guac. - loool. I will do a vial smell test when i get home - sometimes the scent goes through even if its not opened...

 

[Photon]

SSA / Hyb same thing - I think my vial of A-drol stinks of guac. - loool. I will do a vial smell test when i get home - sometimes the scent goes through even if its not opened...

Same vial?

Janoshik Analytical

 

[Psy-chonaut]

Same vial?
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Janoshik Analytical

Yeah All of Hyb/SSA items have the same item numbers + out of stock list are identical = same oil Factory

My inj A-drol is also called OXO50

 

[Psy-chonaut]

Same vial?
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Janoshik Analytical

I have it in a plastic casing, the glass vial does'nt stink anymore, its been in my closet for a year - but the plastic casing does...

Pretty sure I've seen some debate, both in the SSA + Hyb thread last year, where in the end, there turned out to be a small amount guac. in the injectable versions we talking about.

 

[Ataemonus]

i thought you didn't, do "dates/sex" etc,, i thought you were in the " cool club" ,, no sex no dates , just TRAINING,,, lol

That's me, but far from "cool club", more like "sad club".

good info, thanks mate. super not needed for my physique or goals but still nice to know

personally ive found var is perfect compound for me so far. dry, veiny look, not too steong (@50mg) but definitelly works, no visible sides (bloods will tell more), ideal summer compound, 0 mental effects, bp
is good...

all these "stronger" orals are ussually wet, with hard to manage sides, gyno possibility, bp issues etc.

Can you please let me know what TNE is ? Google refuses to help.
As for dry orals, definitely Var is awesome, but Sdrol and Adrol are dry as well, or shoud be. I am very sensitive to estrogenic sides, but never had any with Adrol or Sdrol, both are a tad stronger than Var for me.

 

[BabaJagga]

That's me, but far from "cool club", more like "sad club".


Can you please let me know what TNE is ? Google refuses to help.
As for dry orals, definitely Var is awesome, but Sdrol and Adrol are dry as well, or shoud be. I am very sensitive to estrogenic sides, but never had any with Adrol or Sdrol, both are a tad stronger than Var for me.

cool or sad mate, im not sure. cool it is when i see my friends on leach from gfs askin for permissions

sad it is when i see 18-22yo hotties and im gettin older every day. also, loneliness hits me about 1-2 times per week for about 30-45mins at evening.

you tell me.

TNE = test no ester. good stuff.

anadrol can give mystery progesterone gyno right? nose bleeds, super high bp
superdrol is too toxic

idk, im happy with var. sdrol for 2-3 weeks with letargy, no thanks

anadrol maybe one day when i will attempt 180kg squat or something simillar. overall seems too strong and harsh for my current goals/state

 

[Ataemonus]

Regarding sadness feelings, more test always helps, funny enough. At least for me. I used to have serious deep depression periods, but ever since I keep Test higher than ... say 200-250mg per week, no such issues. I still get like 5 minutes of sadness and loneliness every few days, but it goes away fast.

No idea how old you are, but for me, those 18-22 year olds are kids, maybe hot kids, I will not deny, but still kids. And most of the girls in that generation are mor entitled and annoying than they are hot.
I honestly do not have the patience for that.

As for Adrol, I used to think the same and I was scared of it like hell, but for me, no nose bleeds, no gyno, no BP. But I stay at 50mg pre-workout.
Sdrol I used like 15mg tops, no lethargy to speek of, it made me more focused and I would say stronger, but that depends on many factors so ...
Liver is not affected much, in my case, funny enough though, 200mg of ibuprofen makes me more lethargic than any of the above mentioned drugs and dosages. Like instantly, next day I am like a vegetable, functional one, but still.

 

[Bandern]

Tne + dbol sounds TOO good. I’m afraid I’d become president on that

 

[BabaJagga]

Regarding sadness feelings, more test always helps, funny enough. At least for me. I used to have serious deep depression periods, but ever since I keep Test higher than ... say 200-250mg per week, no such issues. I still get like 5 minutes of sadness and loneliness every few days, but it goes away fast.

No idea how old you are, but for me, those 18-22 year olds are kids, maybe hot kids, I will not deny, but still kids. And most of the girls in that generation are mor entitled and annoying than they are hot.
I honestly do not have the patience for that.

As for Adrol, I used to think the same and I was scared of it like hell, but for me, no nose bleeds, no gyno, no BP. But I stay at 50mg pre-workout.
Sdrol I used like 15mg tops, no lethargy to speek of, it made me more focused and I would say stronger, but that depends on many factors so ...
Liver is not affected much, in my case, funny enough though, 200mg of ibuprofen makes me more lethargic than any of the above mentioned drugs and dosages. Like instantly, next day I am like a vegetable, functional one, but still.

im 28yo mate so for me its around ideal. i wouldnt go for women my age or older, no way. maybe for some fun time but i wouldnt keep them long term.

agree with patience but where im from, it may be bit different mentally for them. but idk anymore, i think everyone is bit weird and psycho in todays world. anyway, esstern eu vs states (probably?).

agree with you on test. i started this journey more for mental benefits than bodybuilding/physical performance and its been life changing. i finally feel like man with steady mental state. okay, it wad hard during cut but i did extreme deficit so its expected.

whats your levels on 250mg?

about bp/nose bleeds/issues with anadrol, thats what guys that run it here told me. idk dosages or duration but they are pretty clueless with drugs. they pop the pills and inject stuff random pretty much.

gonna be honest, its one of the drugs i will try some day but so far i dont have use for it and dont wanna pop the pills on random occasions, without set goal that i wanna achieve.

did you notice any hunger supression with any orals? stomach issues?

 

[Ataemonus]

I am Eastern EU as well, in fact, more Eastern than you, in all likelyhood.

I get what you mean by women your age, I think for 28, the perfect women age would be 22-26, but again, I have no idea how those ladies act and think, as an age group, then again, you only need one good one, or that's how I think.

My levels on 250mg test would be around as you'd expect, 900-1200 ng/dL ish range (31-41nmol/L). Either the China sources are better lately, or my assimilation rate is better, or something, as I get higher blood levels in the past 2 years, 34-43 nmol/L (1100-1250ng/dL).
I even dropped down to 175mg or there about, 0.7ml of Test E 250mg/ml per week, and was also good mentally and physically, around 750-800 blood level.

The kind of people who "heard shit is awesome" and start dosing randomly, without even a decent diet, decent training, and decent knowledge of their body at least, not to mention blood analysis, are those who seem to get side effects rather than anything else. I know a few of those and I try to distance myself from them.
Also most YT "educators" say Anadrol is random with gyno, can cause this and that, but then say, well, my clients run 100-150 Anadrol per day and no side effects, this and that.
So yes, I was scared of the gyno most of all, as I am prone to that, but ... nothing.
But definitely I had a goal, to put on some more mass, which seems to work decently well with Anadrol, or maybe Anadrol just helps, but at least no side effects.
Not even hunger supression, but again, I never ran any large doses of ay of these and my hunger is not the best either, which is one thing that I feel is holding me back from putting on some more size, along with my inability to organize myself to have all meals prepared, so ... my fault.

 

[BabaJagga]

I am Eastern EU as well, in fact, more Eastern than you, in all likelyhood.

I get what you mean by women your age, I think for 28, the perfect women age would be 22-26, but again, I have no idea how those ladies act and think, as an age group, then again, you only need one good one, or that's how I think.

My levels on 250mg test would be around as you'd expect, 900-1200 ng/dL ish range (31-41nmol/L). Either the China sources are better lately, or my assimilation rate is better, or something, as I get higher blood levels in the past 2 years, 34-43 nmol/L (1100-1250ng/dL).
I even dropped down to 175mg or there about, 0.7ml of Test E 250mg/ml per week, and was also good mentally and physically, around 750-800 blood level.

The kind of people who "heard shit is awesome" and start dosing randomly, without even a decent diet, decent training, and decent knowledge of their body at least, not to mention blood analysis, are those who seem to get side effects rather than anything else. I know a few of those and I try to distance myself from them.
Also most YT "educators" say Anadrol is random with gyno, can cause this and that, but then say, well, my clients run 100-150 Anadrol per day and no side effects, this and that.
So yes, I was scared of the gyno most of all, as I am prone to that, but ... nothing.
But definitely I had a goal, to put on some more mass, which seems to work decently well with Anadrol, or maybe Anadrol just helps, but at least no side effects.
Not even hunger supression, but again, I never ran any large doses of ay of these and my hunger is not the best either, which is one thing that I feel is holding me back from putting on some more size, along with my inability to organize myself to have all meals prepared, so ... my fault.

so its true that response/reaction/metabolism of testosterone do/can change overtime.
ive searched about this topic cause i had piss poor response (300mg =1350ng/dl) but when i tested myself again on same dose, i had 2400ng/dl. i could have elevated levels from 550mg still, im not sure.
will see, from tomorrow im goin down to 250mg per week, from 300 and will retest in future.

agree with you again, these local gzys are wild. almost everyone doses by ml'a instead of mg's, ofc 0 bloodwork, 0 knowleage or research behind compounds they are using, 0 understaning of basics like esters, estrogen managament, nobody measures bp or anything. injecting often on random, tren ace 2 times per week, sustanon every 10-14 days... its wild
diet, i wont even coment on that.

i realised that its not worth listening to anything irl at some point. i dont need to hear advices or rather opinions... its weird cause in this modern age, everyone has phone 24/7 with them and thats unlimited source of information that could be found with some time and effort.

about women, i would date and keep 18-19 without much issues. i also think it would be kind of win for that girl also cause im kind of emotionally stable with stable and cleaned life etc.
my problem is that i live in small city woth 20k population. most of young people move to bigger cities so whats left in here is either taken or not worth goin for. i mean, its bad...
i know lot of guys that found and eventually married girls 10+ years younger when they were 30-35 with 0 issues. but its like looking for needle in haystack. weird time...

 

[IndividualMan]

so its true that response/reaction/metabolism of testosterone do/can change overtime.
ive searched about this topic cause i had piss poor response (300mg =1350ng/dl) but when i tested myself again on same dose, i had 2400ng/dl. i could have elevated levels from 550mg still, im not sure.
will see, from tomorrow im goin down to 250mg per week, from 300 and will retest in future.

agree with you again, these local gzys are wild. almost everyone doses by ml'a instead of mg's, ofc 0 bloodwork, 0 knowleage or research behind compounds they are using, 0 understaning of basics like esters, estrogen managament, nobody measures bp or anything. injecting often on random, tren ace 2 times per week, sustanon every 10-14 days... its wild
diet, i wont even coment on that.

i realised that its not worth listening to anything irl at some point. i dont need to hear advices or rather opinions... its weird cause in this modern age, everyone has phone 24/7 with them and thats unlimited source of information that could be found with some time and effort.

about women, i would date and keep 18-19 without much issues. i also think it would be kind of win for that girl also cause im kind of emotionally stable with stable and cleaned life etc.
my problem is that i live in small city woth 20k population. most of young people move to bigger cities so whats left in here is either taken or not worth goin for. i mean, its bad...
i know lot of guys that found and eventually married girls 10+ years younger when they were 30-35 with 0 issues. but its like looking for needle in haystack. weird time...

why not move to a bigger city as well? plenty of opportunity there, especially for making money. Also great for meeting a wide variety of people (however, the drawback is you will meet a wide variety of people)

 

[BabaJagga]

why not move to a bigger city as well? plenty of opportunity there, especially for making money. Also great for meeting a wide variety of people (however, the drawback is you will meet a wide variety of people)

i have my bussiness here and house ive bought for 100k€ less than market price and its raising each year. thats 2 main reasons. it would be financial suicide.

but maybe maybe, when/if i make enough money, one day i will sell everything here and move to some other part of the world. thailand comes to mind for example, i could live like a king for looooong time with money i would bring there... or somewhere warm, outside of eu and western world... will see

 

[Ataemonus]

The rule of the thumb with Test is blood levels in ng/dL is 5 x dose in mg, I think. But then how other compounds that are still in the blood affect that reading, I do not know. For instance, how does Primo or EQ do metabolize and affect test readings ?

With women, you seem to think they are rational and think like we do, but they do not, in my experience. They are super emotioonal and thrive on chaos and drama, most of them.
Sure, in a logical world, any woman of any age would be better off with somebody like you describe, but in reality, they are attracted to what they are attracted to, and that is ... I have no idea.
Things are not much better where I live, and it's like 2 million population officially, but more like 3-4 mil actual.
99% of the women I know are either corporate drones, weird liberal pink haired opinionated whatever, princesses, entitled, low end Kardashian wannabe, OnlyFans "star", fat, feminist who thinks all men are bad and she is perfect, ah, they think they are waaaaay smarter than they are (I consider myself dumb, so it's not even ego on my end). Don't have to pick only one of the above, you can mix, lol. Oh, and not to forget, unattractive.
What's left is like you say, needle in a haystack, but the good part is you only need one needle, lol.
Just a personal opinion, observation, but I noticed people, women included, are much more down to earth and polite and nice overall in smaller cities compared to bigger cities, it's like moving ot living in a big city infaltes one's ego.

 

[BabaJagga]

The rule of the thumb with Test is blood levels in ng/dL is 5 x dose in mg, I think. But then how other compounds that are still in the blood affect that reading, I do not know. For instance, how does Primo or EQ do metabolize and affect test readings ?

With women, you seem to think they are rational and think like we do, but they do not, in my experience. They are super emotioonal and thrive on chaos and drama, most of them.
Sure, in a logical world, any woman of any age would be better off with somebody like you describe, but in reality, they are attracted to what they are attracted to, and that is ... I have no idea.
Things are not much better where I live, and it's like 2 million population officially, but more like 3-4 mil actual.
99% of the women I know are either corporate drones, weird liberal pink haired opinionated whatever, princesses, entitled, low end Kardashian wannabe, OnlyFans "star", fat, feminist who thinks all men are bad and she is perfect, ah, they think they are waaaaay smarter than they are (I consider myself dumb, so it's not even ego on my end). Don't have to pick only one of the above, you can mix, lol. Oh, and not to forget, unattractive.
What's left is like you say, needle in a haystack, but the good part is you only need one needle, lol.
Just a personal opinion, observation, but I noticed people, women included, are much more down to earth and polite and nice overall in smaller cities compared to bigger cities, it's like moving ot living in a big city infaltes one's ego.

well, you are right. im too boring, rationally thinkin and have 0 tolerance for bullshit.
it is what it is.

i have very good time alone so im not gonna let some woman ruin that so im picky also.

will see how it will end... its weird time, suuuper weird... all this modern internet age ruined it pretty much, at least thats my opinion. at the end of the day, im man and i will try to make the most of any situation.

 

[Ataemonus]

Agreed, basic family values and old values are now being demolished. I am not a fan of this either, but there is nothing I can do about it.

 

[IndividualMan]

i have my bussiness here and house ive bought for 100k€ less than market price and its raising each year. thats 2 main reasons. it would be financial suicide.

but maybe maybe, when/if i make enough money, one day i will sell everything here and move to some other part of the world. thailand comes to mind for example, i could live like a king for looooong time with money i would bring there... or somewhere warm, outside of eu and western world... will see

ah i see, you are already locked in for a few years.

if you get a heap of money anytime soon, portugal if really fucking nice. great houses in the countryside, nice relaxed people. Good alcohol.
Outside of EU Thailand really is the way to go. its just too cheap to live, eat and Lift well there.

 

[BabaJagga]

Agreed, basic family values and old values are now being demolished. I am not a fan of this either, but there is nothing I can do about it.

but i gotta say, lot of people are still goin towards family life.

ah i see, you are already locked in for a few years.

if you get a heap of money anytime soon, portugal if really fucking nice. great houses in the countryside, nice relaxed people. Good alcohol.
Outside of EU Thailand really is the way to go. its just too cheap to live, eat and Lift well there.

ive been looking at portugal but i would have to work there in thailand, i doubt it.
idk man, its so far away... rn im focused on makin money, i just need to reinvest some cash cause sitting on cash money is not exactly wise rn. lookin into stocks/index funds/ways to keep value and grow them a bit. but yea, locked in for while, too much at stake...

also, i dont drink at all. but could legaly smoke thc in both countries so im good

 

[IndividualMan]

but i gotta say, lot of people are still goin towards family life.



ive been looking at portugal but i would have to work there in thailand, i doubt it.
idk man, its so far away... rn im focused on makin money, i just need to reinvest some cash cause sitting on cash money is not exactly wise rn. lookin into stocks/index funds/ways to keep value and grow them a bit. but yea, locked in for while, too much at stake...

also, i dont drink at all. but could legaly smoke thc in both countries so im good

for investing, you should always remember: holy shit its all over sell everything right now its so over holy shit I am financially ruined.

Portugal is so fucking nice, especially if you got a remote job or something like that. but doing nothing all day in Thailand also sounds nice