what are ways to raise DHT conversion and lower aromatase activity?

[Amgiji]

what are some of the ways you can increase testosterone to DHT conversion?

(everything from diet and exercise to vitamins and lifestyle all the way to aas)

my testosterone to DHT ratio keeps coming back around the 5 alpha 2 reductase deficiency range, even though my chromosomal microarray said I have normal looking xy chromosomes.

same question for lowering aromatase activity.
(other than lowering body fat or taking aromatase inhibitors. I am already doing both)

 

[Amgiji]

Previous poster is correct about avoiding foods rich in isoflavones (soy, flax). however the effect is fairly negligible (according to studies 9%-9.4% reduction in 5a reductase activity).

The other way is to reduce your aromatise activity which you’re already doing.

Also the more testosterone you take, the more will be reduced to DHT. Really seems like your best course of action is to increase your testosterone dose. Then you don’t have to buy anything off the internet as you’re already prescribed it (can you get more?).

the problem is my conversion rate.

testosterone should be 3.5 to 14 times dht the last 6 levels I had it checked they were
19 times 21 times 22 times 21times 12 times 18 times

I'm having trouble turning the testosterone I already have into dht,

that's why I (if possible) wanted to increase 5 alpha reductase activity as that not working well is why I (and my doctor) think I aromatize so heavily.

 

[RiceNKimchi]

delete your lies and other garbage on my thread or I will do my damnedest to get @Millard in here to get you out of here.

"you're being mean! I'm going to tell dad!"

 

[numquam-retro]

the problem is my conversion rate.

testosterone should be 3.5 to 14 times dht the last 6 levels I had it checked they were
19 times 21 times 22 times 21times 12 times 18 times

I'm having trouble turning the testosterone I already have into dht,

that's why I (if possible) wanted to increase 5 alpha reductase activity as that not working well is why I (and my doctor) think I aromatize so heavily.

Hi mate! , your case is very special and you need help from a real expert! The only two guys that come to my mind are Derek from mpmd and Vigorous Steve.

 

[I6JQdr06]

Hi mate! , your case is very special and you need help from a real expert! The only two guys that come to my mind are Derek from mpmd and Vigorous Steve.

These people are not experts, they’re YouTubers.

An expert will hold a medical degree and have many years of experience in male endocrinology.

 

[numquam-retro]

Yes, of course they are youtubers! But I think they have profound knowledge. I think it would be worth giving it a try....
As far as I understood he is already consulting an medical expert, who can't help him.
Please let Amgiji know, if you know someone who could help him! I am sure he would be very thankful.

 

[I6JQdr06]

They don’t have profound knowledge. They just talk confidently about things they don’t fully understand

 

[BigTomJ]

Hi mate! , your case is very special and you need help from a real expert! The only two guys that come to my mind are Derek from mpmd and Vigorous Steve.

MPMD is one of the worst charlatans of the PED influencers.
He routinely shows only a cursory level understanding of the topics he talks about and draws irrational conclusions based of his faulty interpretation of the studies he glosses over.

Hes done so much damage to the enhancement community, especially the younger guys with his rampant misinformation.

 

[BigTomJ]

delete your lies and other garbage on my thread or I will do my damnedest to get @Millard in here to get you out of here.

Hillarious that some new, nobody, heightmaxing, MPMD cuck boy is getting all bent out of shape and trying to cry to dad about being called out for his idiotic ideas.

major incel vibes from this beta.

 

[Amgiji]

Yes, of course they are youtubers! But I think they have profound knowledge. I think it would be worth giving it a try....
As far as I understood he is already consulting an medical expert, who can't help him.
Please let Amgiji know, if you know someone who could help him! I am sure he would be very thankful.

never heard of vigorous Steve. I've seen Derek he's an idiot that thinks dht (the primary androgen in humans) is poison.

 

[Amgiji]

Hillarious that some new, nobody, heightmaxing, MPMD cuck boy is getting all bent out of shape and trying to cry to dad about being called out for his idiotic ideas.

major incel vibes from this beta.

someone going into threads that don't have anything to do with them making shit up because they have zero reading comprehension,

(seriously all my posts are public go find the one that said I wanted to grow 4 inches and be 6'4 ,spoiler you can't because that never happened.
@4Drago needs his schizo meds refilled)

then following you to an unrelated thread and bring all their drama and lies to convince people to not answer you is something not worth being upset about?

were you born this stupid or is this tren brain rot?

 

[RiceNKimchi]

someone going into threads that don't have anything to do with them making shit up because they have zero reading comprehension,

(seriously all my posts are public go find the one that said I wanted to grow 4 inches and be 6'4 ,spoiler you can't because that never happened.
@4Drago needs his schizo meds refilled)

then following you to an unrelated thread and bring all their drama and lies to convince people to not answer you is something not worth being upset about?

were you born this stupid or is this tren brain rot?

Your attitude is about as far as you'll get on these forums. Move on. @BigTomJ has real experience. I don't always agree with him but his information is backed through irl experience and research.

You've been negative to almost everyone and then go on the defensive and note their reading comprehension or knowledge when they do not agree with whatever bird in the wind you're chasing.

 

[Exhortae]

Hi mate! , your case is very special and you need help from a real expert! The only two guys that come to my mind are Derek from mpmd and Vigorous Steve.

Juicehead is not equal to doctor

 

[4Drago]

someone going into threads that don't have anything to do with them making shit up because they have zero reading comprehension,

(seriously all my posts are public go find the one that said I wanted to grow 4 inches and be 6'4 ,spoiler you can't because that never happened.
@4Drago needs his schizo meds refilled)

then following you to an unrelated thread and bring all their drama and lies to convince people to not answer you is something not worth being upset about?

were you born this stupid or is this tren brain rot?

So you want to keep your growth plates open but have zero desire for growing in height? And everyone has reading comprehension issues yet you're the self proclaimed dyslexic?

Unless someone provides you with a source, protocol, or just any specific drug...in reply, you get pissed?

You cry when you don't get the response you want, and everyone is so mean, yet you tell me I need to go on schizophrenia meds. Grow up little big man!

 

[4Drago]

If you want to educate yourself do extensive research on what being obese throughout puberty does to the male body!!

 

[Amgiji]

So you want to keep your growth plates open but have zero desire for growing in height? And everyone has reading comprehension issues yet you're the self proclaimed dyslexic?

Unless someone provides you with a source, protocol, or just any specific drug...in reply, you get pissed?

You cry when you don't get the response you want, and everyone is so mean, yet you tell me I need to go on schizophrenia meds. Grow up little big man!

So you want to keep your growth plates open but have zero desire for growing in height?

again, I didn't say that.
you said that I had a specific height that I wanted to be.

I never did.

you keep lying about what I've said that my problem with you

 

[4Drago]

again, I didn't say that.
you said that I had a specific height that I wanted to be.

I never did.

you keep lying about what I've said that my problem with you

Dude, do you ever read what you post? You're splitting hairs.

I recommended to you, way back, that you get real with your posts and be honest. This obviously is beyond your ability. You're never gonna except what it is you actually must do to help yourself. All you want is drugs and source info.

 

[RiceNKimchi]

again, I didn't say that.
you said that I had a specific height that I wanted to be.

I never did.

you keep lying about what I've said that my problem with you

Why start a new thread. Link the old one so people can see your posts. You said you were statistically shorter than an amount of people in your area when your 5 11 but have scoliosis, 6 4 before, off the top of my head.

What is your goal if not to grow like everyone inferred in your late 20s?

 

[Amgiji]

If you want to educate yourself do extensive research on what being obese throughout puberty does to the male body!!

I have looked into that all ready.

I'm losing as much body fat as I can,

took aromatase inhibiter to counter estradiol.

didn't eat once for 140 hours to rest set leptin and ghrelin resistance.

eating low/no carb to reset insulin resistance.

taking testosterone.

and trying to get dht/ androgen respecters the work better (the literal point of this thread)

I know what that did, unless you have a time machine the point has always been what can I do about it now as I can't live like this

 

[Amgiji]

Why start a new thread. Link the old one so people can see your posts. You said you were statistically shorter than an amount of people in your area when your 5 11 but have scoliosis, 6 4 before, off the top of my head.

What is your goal if not to grow like everyone inferred in your late 20s?

to be less short, to masculinize and have my body work better. I've said something to that effect many times.

and not just from drugs that's why I specified (everything from diet and exercise to vitamins and lifestyle all the way to aas) in the OP

 

[4Drago]

Your first and primary goal should be to be a normal healthy male? This requires a complete understanding of nutrition. Your second goal should be to do EVERYTHING you can to be as physically active as possible. At the same time educating yourself extensively on physical fitness and start a program fitting to your condition. All this while continuing to stay under a docs care if possible.

You shouldn't be taking anything right now that isn't prescribed by a doc...period! Once you've been able to achieve, as close as possible, these first 2 goals then maybe venture off into gear.

But, this isn't the route you want to take because it's HARD and takes TIME! You need to realize if you don't take this approach you're more then likely going to destroy your body even further.