what are ways to raise DHT conversion and lower aromatase activity?

[Amgiji]

what are some of the ways you can increase testosterone to DHT conversion?

(everything from diet and exercise to vitamins and lifestyle all the way to aas)

my testosterone to DHT ratio keeps coming back around the 5 alpha 2 reductase deficiency range, even though my chromosomal microarray said I have normal looking xy chromosomes.

same question for lowering aromatase activity.
(other than lowering body fat or taking aromatase inhibitors. I am already doing both)

 

[dafqu1]

try proviron

 

[Amgiji]

try proviron

thank you for the reply.

how does proviron compare to primo?

 

[dafqu1]

proviron is a pretty safe oral steroid thats more of a fertility booster. its not anabolic just mildly androgenic. primo is anabolic injectable steroid that doesnt aromatise so it lowers estrogen. If you're looking to increase dht it should be masteron your wondering about not primo. Just because something is a dht based steroid doesnt mean it increases dht, primo is barely androgenic, women take primo.

 

[Amgiji]

proviron is a pretty safe oral steroid thats more of a fertility booster. its not anabolic just mildly androgenic. primo is anabolic injectable steroid that doesnt aromatise so it lowers estrogen. If you're looking to increase dht it should be masteron your wondering about not primo. Just because something is a dht based steroid doesnt mean it increases dht, primo is barely androgenic, women take primo.

thank you for the clarification.

when looking up proviron it comes up as Mesterolone not masteron is there a difference?

the goal is not to only raise dht that's part. but ideally to increase
5 alpha reductase enzyme activity so I convert more of the testosterone I already have if possible. so, I'm more balanced out.

do you know of any ways (aas or otherwise) to increase 5 alpha reductase enzyme activity directly?

 

[dafqu1]

there are a lot of androgenic steroids almost all of them increase dht in some way. Its funny u honed in on one of the few that doesnt. 99% sure ur trolling but if ur not u really need to read more before u do anything. proviron is an oral steroid and masteron is an injectable steroid they are different. best natural way to increase 5 ar is avoiding soy and processed foods dont take finasteride or any other acne drugs or psych meds. thats all i know about it

 

[4Drago]

The op isn't being completely honest about what it is he's trying to do. His last post was a bust. So he's being more selective in his words this time around in hopes of getting the perfect protocol to increase dht, eliminate e2, and what hormones to use to increase his hight. He also wants to become more manly.

He's 5' 11.5" trying to grow taller by having willingly shut off his e2 completely. Hoping this keeps his growth plates open. Then he wants to spur 4" of growth by adding dht or hgh. He wants to be a strongman competitor. Wants to be like 6'4" big hairy strongman.

He can't train or get a job due to disability from obesity, and intentionally using too much adex which has ruined his joints. He lives at home with mom. Cant/won't get a job because he's in so much pain he can't even do physical therapy exercises. Us hard working Americans pay him our high taxes in the form of ssi, $900 a month, so he can sit at home and buy aas and gear to try to attain his dream.

He also wants help on where to buy all the gear. As well as an idea on how to fraud ssi so he can spend his money on btc undetected.

Claims he is dyslexic and autistic and abused by teachers everyday in school. I may have missed a few things but that's the gist of it.

 

[4Drago]

We already told him where he can just buy dht and hgh. But he still can't grasp it. He's been told he's going to destroy his body but he doesn't care. He can't train and only has $900 ssi each month so he won't be able to eat correctly. But he still wants the protocol for the magic pill stack of his dreams.

 

[Vanargandar]

Claims he is dyslexic and autistic and abused by teachers everyday in school. I may have missed a few things but that's the gist of it.

But he still wants the protocol for the magic pill stack of his dreams.

Thanks for keeping me from wasting my time.

 

[Amgiji]

there are a lot of androgenic steroids almost all of them increase dht in some way. Its funny u honed in on one of the few that doesnt. 99% sure ur trolling but if ur not u really need to read more before u do anything. proviron is an oral steroid and masteron is an injectable steroid they are different. best natural way to increase 5 ar is avoiding soy and processed foods dont take finasteride or any other acne drugs or psych meds. thats all i know about it

I'm not trolling. I asked about primo because about someone sent me a dm about and was trying to verify information.

understandable. I knew it was a longshot but figured if anyone would know about the androgen pathways they would be here.

thank you for your help

 

[Amgiji]

We already told him where he can just buy dht and hgh. But he still can't grasp it. He's been told he's going to destroy his body but he doesn't care. He can't train and only has $900 ssi each month so he won't be able to eat correctly. But he still wants the protocol for the magic pill stack of his dreams.

no you didn't. you spent 11 posts calling me an idiot and someone else mentioned Qingdao Sigma Chemical and when I looked into them and found out they are in China and asked can they get through US customs no one answered.

 

[Amgiji]

The op isn't being completely honest about what it is he's trying to do. His last post was a bust. So he's being more selective in his words this time around in hopes of getting the perfect protocol to increase dht, eliminate e2, and what hormones to use to increase his hight. He also wants to become more manly.

He's 5' 11.5" trying to grow taller by having willingly shut off his e2 completely. Hoping this keeps his growth plates open. Then he wants to spur 4" of growth by adding dht or hgh. He wants to be a strongman competitor. Wants to be like 6'4" big hairy strongman.

He can't train or get a job due to disability from obesity, and intentionally using too much adex which has ruined his joints. He lives at home with mom. Cant/won't get a job because he's in so much pain he can't even do physical therapy exercises. Us hard working Americans pay him our high taxes in the form of ssi, $900 a month, so he can sit at home and buy aas and gear to try to attain his dream.

He also wants help on where to buy all the gear. As well as an idea on how to fraud ssi so he can spend his money on btc undetected.

Claims he is dyslexic and autistic and abused by teachers everyday in school. I may have missed a few things but that's the gist of it.

all I wanted to know was if there is a way of increasing my dht conversion (fixing the underlying problem) without having to just add dht that was it. that's all.

I have more than one problem and GOD forbid after it's clear I hit a dead end that I try to fix a different one.

now get your lying (you still can't even get what you are accusing me of saying right) drama stirring ass off of my threads or I will mass report you till you get banned for stalking me.

 

[Amgiji]

there are a lot of androgenic steroids almost all of them increase dht in some way. Its funny u honed in on one of the few that doesnt. 99% sure ur trolling but if ur not u really need to read more before u do anything. proviron is an oral steroid and masteron is an injectable steroid they are different. best natural way to increase 5 ar is avoiding soy and processed foods dont take finasteride or any other acne drugs or psych meds. thats all i know about it

and when I typed in provion this pops up

Mesterolone

Chemical compound
Mesterolone, sold under the brand name Proviron among others, is an androgen and anabolic steroid medication which is used mainly in the treatment of low testosterone levels.

so google is lying to me or we are talking about 2 different things.

either way thank you for your help

 

[I6JQdr06]

I'm not trolling. I asked about primo because about someone sent me a dm about and was trying to verify information.

understandable. I knew it was a longshot but figured if anyone would know about the androgen pathways they would be here.

thank you for your help

Be very careful what you take away from here. You’ll find a lot of bullshit repeated on these forums.

Here’s an example: proviron, Masteron, etc. None of them will increase your DHT. They’ll all mimic DHT to an extent (the two mentioned here being closest in action to their parent compound).

The only way to get more DHT (in your case) is to take more testosterone although from reading your needs in your last thread, proviron isn’t a bad idea.

 

[Amgiji]

Be very careful what you take away from here. You’ll find a lot of bullshit repeated on these forums.

Here’s an example: proviron, Masteron, etc. None of them will increase your DHT. They’ll all mimic DHT to an extent (the two mentioned here being closest in action to their parent compound).

The only way to get more DHT (in your case) is to take more testosterone although from reading your needs in your last thread, proviron isn’t a bad idea.

thank you for the advice I will try to be careful.

is there really no know way to increase activity/up regulate the 4 alpha reductase pathway?

 

[I6JQdr06]

and when I typed in provion this pops up

Mesterolone

Chemical compound
Mesterolone, sold under the brand name Proviron among others, is an androgen and anabolic steroid medication which is used mainly in the treatment of low testosterone levels.

so google is lying to me or we are talking about 2 different things.

either way thank you for your help

Proviron = mesterolone

Masteron = drostanolone.
Primobolan (IMO not useful for you) = methenolone

All different compounds. The first two are modified DHT compounds. Proviron is a modified 1-testosterone and has little in common with DHT.

 

[I6JQdr06]

thank you for the advice I will try to be careful.

is there really no know way to increase activity/up regulate the 4 alpha reductase pathway?

Previous poster is correct about avoiding foods rich in isoflavones (soy, flax). however the effect is fairly negligible (according to studies 9%-9.4% reduction in 5a reductase activity).

The other way is to reduce your aromatise activity which you’re already doing.

Also the more testosterone you take, the more will be reduced to DHT. Really seems like your best course of action is to increase your testosterone dose. Then you don’t have to buy anything off the internet as you’re already prescribed it (can you get more?).

 

[4Drago]

If people want the real truth all they have to do is read your first post...ain't difficult. Stalking in a group forum...that's funny.

 

[4Drago]

To decrease aromatase you take an aromatase inhibitor. But you're already doing that in unhealthy mega doses and have crashed your e2 intentionally. You did this hoping to keep your growth plates open so you can grow to 6'4".

To increase dht you take testosterone or go straight to dht. You've already been given this advice. If your body doesn't convert test to dht effectly at the 10% rate then your other option is dht itself.

 

[Amgiji]

To decrease aromatase you take an aromatase inhibitor. But you're already doing that in unhealthy mega doses and have crashed your e2 intentionally. You did this hoping to keep your growth plates open so you can grow to 6'4".

To increase dht you take testosterone or go straight to dht. You've already been given this advice. If your body doesn't convert test to dht effectly at the 10% rate then your other option is dht itself.

thank you for answering my question at the end. "if it was possible to increase 5 alpha reductase activity."

but to clarify and I have said several times "

I said my doctor figured out something went wrong with my puberty and I went on an aromatase inhibitor to keep my growth plates open.

but, I needed to take so much because even 5 mg of topical testosterone cream made my estradiol go from the normal range of 25 pg/ml to 60 pg/ml.

so I needed to use an "unhealthy mega dose" to even be at decent TRT level of testosterone anyway.

that why I'm trying to figure out if you can increase 5 alpha reductase activity so I aromatize less and can take less.

and I have said this several times

I have been in physical therapy for years
they took scans of my spine and said I was 6'4" but due to neuromuscular scoliosis
(my nerves are crap and my brain can't figure out how to use my back muscles)
so my spine is permanently curved and I can't stand up straight,

and that I had ehlers danlos
(poorly put together collagen)

think how you are shorter at the end of the day from the collagen disks in your spine being compressed, but worse and at all times.

so I was shorter than I was supposed to be.

I have never said I wanted to grow 4 inches.

I have never said a specific amount I wanted to grow.

I have never said I wanted to be 6'4".

I have never said a specific height I wanted to be.

you made that up.

you can't read.

while you did answer my question in the second half of your post,

delete your lies and other garbage on my thread or I will do my damnedest to get @Millard in here to get you out of here.