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[bananafeet]

update, I'm on 350 mg tren enanthate per week (injecting 175 mg Saturday, 175 mg Wednesday, on Saturday I also add 100 mg testosterone cypionate, 10 mg exemestane), been following this for a couple weeks now, also HGH 2 IU per night, tirz 5 mg saturday....

Sleep has kinda leveled out, taking 2 mg eszopiclone + 10 mg melatonin per night, ashwagandha Mon Wed Fri. I get about 6 hours of sleep per night, about 50 mins of REM, which is kind of like what I was getting pre-tren, maybe a little worse, I do still sweat at night which is mad annoying but whatever. Energy levels and tiredness about the same now that it's been like a month+ I've been taking tren at medium-high doses.

Lowered paroxetine dose to 5 mg per day, because my sex drive got wrecked by it, and I might just stop taking it or stay on 5 mg, holy shit this stuff is like a nuke for your sex drive... Trying to force myself to whack it to re-sensitize myself but that's not tren related.

I suggest you read Type2x posts about tren dosing. Reread if you've already done so.

A low does of tren would be 50mg per week by bodybuilder standards. 200mg would be moderate and anything above 300mg would be high. A couple of guys posted about AKI while on cycles with tren just recently.

Wouldn't it make sense to just take more testosterone? You will get the psychological effects and feed efficiency at a low dose of tren.

Tren causes sexual dysfunction and a numb penis. Depending on the dose cabergoline may or may not help.

It is a progestin afterall....

Here is the ranking of antidepressants by sexual dysfunction:


I've combined Mirtazapine with Sertraline. It hasn't cured the sexual dysfunction 100% but it has made it atleast bareable.

This is coming from someone who did two weeks of tren at 400mg but has finally come out of the trance.

 

[Mfras]

I suggest you read Type2x posts about tren dosing. Reread if you've already done so.

A low does of tren would be 50mg per week by bodybuilder standards. 200mg would be moderate and anything above 300mg would be high. A couple of guys posted about AKI while on cycles with tren just recently.

Wouldn't it make sense to just take more testosterone? You will get the psychological effects and feed efficiency at a low dose of tren.

Tren causes sexual dysfunction and a numb penis. Depending on the dose cabergoline may or may not help.

It is a progestin afterall....

Here is the ranking of antidepressants by sexual dysfunction:
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I've combined Mirtazapine with Sertraline. It hasn't cured the sexual dysfunction 100% but it has made it atleast bareable.

This is coming from someone who did two weeks of tren at 400mg but has finally come out of the trance.

I felt literally almost nothing until I titrated up past 300. And currently sitting at 350 or a little higher because I add a drop or two for drawing to pinning barrel transfer. So everybody’s different but also I should be hitting the physical adaptation phase where effects and side effects start showing up.

 

[NecroPhil]

I have never run Tren. I am considering trying it next year and seems that Acetate is a better option to assess the side effects. If I start getting gnarly sides that I cant deal with, the Acetate will clear much faster than Enanthate. Is there a benefit to Enanthate over Acetate? The mg / ml price on Tren E is lower but is that the only benefit? Is there less pip or does anybody anecdotally have better results on Enanthate?

 

[DeodatoFulci]

I started my experiment at 50mg of tren ace a week and just raised the dose to 200mg this week. I can sleep without any issues, and my mood not been altered whatsoever. Will push the dose slightly for these last few weeks, but so far so good. Yesterday’s leg session felt amazing.

 

[TheSeptemberKnight]

I have never run Tren. I am considering trying it next year and seems that Acetate is a better option to assess the side effects. If I start getting gnarly sides that I cant deal with, the Acetate will clear much faster than Enanthate. Is there a benefit to Enanthate over Acetate? The mg / ml price on Tren E is lower but is that the only benefit? Is there less pip or does anybody anecdotally have better results on Enanthate?

IMO I would start with acetate then switch over to enanthate. Skip the tren hex, this ester is wayyyyy longer than enanthate in my personal experience.

 

[Mfras]

I have never run Tren. I am considering trying it next year and seems that Acetate is a better option to assess the side effects. If I start getting gnarly sides that I cant deal with, the Acetate will clear much faster than Enanthate. Is there a benefit to Enanthate over Acetate? The mg / ml price on Tren E is lower but is that the only benefit? Is there less pip or does anybody anecdotally have better results on Enanthate?

I took *everybody’s* advice and went with Ace because if sides get bad I can jump off in days not weeks. The only downside is that I’m pinning every day and even starting at 5mg/day the PIP was rough. The bottle I’m working on is 200mg/ml in mct, and jano tested 6% overdosed. I started watering it down with 100mg/mg mastP and it’s gotten better. Mixing it with my bigger shots MTWF is a little smoother and I also think I’m acclimating to the ester a little but last week one ventro glute shot and a front delt shot were sore for days.

Really it’s not a big deal, but now that I know tolerating 200/week is a snap and so far so good at 350/360ish I grabbed a couple bottles of enanthate so if I decide to play with tren again this summer I can pin 2-3x/week and skip solo tren pin days.

 

[malfeasance]

You do not have to pin acetate every day.

 

[exx]

You do not have to pin acetate every day.

but its a good idea to lol

 

[Mfras]

You do not have to pin acetate every day.

I try to balance practical with ‘possible best’- could I take my TRT Test Cyp once a week and be fine? Yes. But for a smoother ride I prefer 2x/week, and on a high cruise with some other stuff thrown in, especially mast P, I go ahead and pin MWF. Don’t want to major in the minors.

Being my first time trying tren to see how I tolerate it I started small, titrated slowly, and figured daily pins might give the best chance of avoiding sides. It’s working so far but maybe would be just fine EOD or MWF

What schedule do you like for tren ace?