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[Raiders789]

It is awesome to hear tren having a positive impact for you. Im on week 13 of a blast started with 50mg ed, then 75 and finishing with 100mg ed. Has been an incredible blast, complete recomp and huge strength gains. Im much more focused on whatever task im doing and have been an overall more positive happy person. Trens not for everyone, but it is incredible for those who aren't hit by the side effects or mental changes.

Yea bro 100% im glad you're feeling the same!

Just curious, what else are you running on ur blast? In my (limited)experience, I notice a huge difference in sides when looking at the dose relative to my total AAS intake at the time. Like on trt + microdosing tren I got pretty bad sides, but on a higher test + mast + var blast im using 4x the tren and getting way less sides and feel great. I'd figure it there must be some sort of relative androgen exposure that contributes to sides, and maybe this is why guys that do really high tren only cycles get horrible side effects.

 

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Wow very very helpful

 

[RockyP]

Yea bro 100% im glad you're feeling the same!

Just curious, what else are you running on ur blast? In my (limited)experience, I notice a huge difference in sides when looking at the dose relative to my total AAS intake at the time. Like on trt + microdosing tren I got pretty bad sides, but on a higher test + mast + var blast im using 4x the tren and getting way less sides and feel great. I'd figure it there must be some sort of relative androgen exposure that contributes to sides, and maybe this is why guys that do really high tren only cycles get horrible side effects.

If I had to guess I think the masteron is what’s giving you the good feels. Ive run mast with nandrolones (NPP, tren) without exception. I find that the mast really helps with the tren sides. I haven’t run tren in many years but if I give it a go again it will most def be with test and mast

 

[Raiders789]

If I had to guess I think the masteron is what’s giving you the good feels. Ive run mast with nandrolones (NPP, tren) without exception. I find that the mast really helps with the tren sides. I haven’t run tren in many years but if I give it a go again it will most def be with test and mast

Yeah I've heard that mast in general is great for giving good feels.

This is my first time using it though I only plan on running this cycle for 2 more weeks. After that, I'd like to try mast on its own to see if I get the same effect. Its crazy tho how much its having an impact, like I'm up to 50 tren a/day now and I feel great, hardly any anger - the complete opposite from when i was doing trt + 10/tren per day. I'm def gonna stock up on some mast when I get back to the US.

 

[RockyP]

Yeah I've heard that mast in general is great for giving good feels.

This is my first time using it though I only plan on running this cycle for 2 more weeks. After that, I'd like to try mast on its own to see if I get the same effect. Its crazy tho how much its having an impact, like I'm up to 50 tren a/day now and I feel great, hardly any anger - the complete opposite from when i was doing trt + 10/tren per day. I'm def gonna stock up on some mast when I get back to the US.

lol unfortunately now isn’t the best time to be stocking up on Mast. It’s def around in the prop form and still cheap. It’s a great compound despite the flack it gets for not being so anabolic. I like it, and personally I won’t run tren again without it.

 

[monster8912]

Yep I've been running mast with test and tren. I don't think I want to run another cycle without mast ever again lol.

 

[Raiders789]

lol unfortunately now isn’t the best time to be stocking up on Mast. It’s def around in the prop form and still cheap. It’s a great compound despite the flack it gets for not being so anabolic. I like it, and personally I won’t run tren again without it.

Gonna be taking a risk from china Doing a big order with some primo and mast e. Their primo checked out from a blind jano which gives me confidnece that the mast is also good to go, but gonna have it tested as well.

 

[RockyP]

Gonna be taking a risk from china Doing a big order with some primo and mast e. Their primo checked out from a blind jano which gives me confidnece that the mast is also good to go, but gonna have it tested as well.

Oh yea those Chinese vendors are good to go. They use EO in everything but I’ve run their test and primo 200. All quality and accurately / overdosed.

 

[xrayphoton13]

Yeah I've heard that mast in general is great for giving good feels.

This is my first time using it though I only plan on running this cycle for 2 more weeks. After that, I'd like to try mast on its own to see if I get the same effect. Its crazy tho how much its having an impact, like I'm up to 50 tren a/day now and I feel great, hardly any anger - the complete opposite from when i was doing trt + 10/tren per day. I'm def gonna stock up on some mast when I get back to the US.

My experience was the opposite. Test and tren and I'm calm and feel normal. Throw in mast and I'm angry and annoyed at every little thing. And that's mast with anything, not just tren. I liked it initially other than the anger. Once I realized it was the masteron and not just stress in my life causing it I decided not to use it again

 

[Happy Madison]

Hey guys,
Does anyone experience fatigue or laziness during tren, first 6-8 weeks I was energetic AF even on an aggressive cut. Creeping up to my 14th and final week and for the past few weeks I’ve been feeling a shit ton fatigue and low energy so I was curious if it was the tren. It doesn’t affect my sleep that much but I feel like the way it affects dopamine it might be the issue for me.

Ive experienced this close to the end of my best cut. But I think i didnt have enough TEST and or Calories in my diet at the time for what I was trying to accomplish. I was not listening to the wiser around at the time. Tren affects people differently

 

[RockyP]

My experience was the opposite. Test and tren and I'm calm and feel normal. Throw in mast and I'm angry and annoyed at every little thing. And that's mast with anything, not just tren. I liked it initially other than the anger. Once I realized it was the masteron and not just stress in my life causing it I decided not to use it again

I’ve heard this from other folks also. Mast def can make people edgy and irritable.

 

[Happy Madison]

My experience was the opposite. Test and tren and I'm calm and feel normal. Throw in mast and I'm angry and annoyed at every little thing. And that's mast with anything, not just tren. I liked it initially other than the anger. Once I realized it was the masteron and not just stress in my life causing it I decided not to use it again

This part is very true and I second the removal of mast for myself as well

 

[Deadpool99]

Ive experienced this close to the end of my best cut. But I think i didnt have enough TEST and or Calories in my diet at the time for what I was trying to accomplish. I was not listening to the wiser around at the time. Tren affects people differently

It turned out to be KSM 66 (Ashwaghanda), the sedating effect plus was really shitty for my mood made me really lazy and the blunting of cortisol when I’m in a caloric deficit using tren and T3, technically my cortisol should be high, so blunting it with KSM also caused some issues.

 

[Mongo966]

Any of yall know where I could get some tren hex? Preferably at 200mg/ml

pharmacom makes it at 100mg/ml

 

[Liter O' Test]

pharmacom makes it at 100mg/ml

what a shit source to reccomend

 

[mikeh1998]

It turned out to be KSM 66 (Ashwaghanda), the sedating effect plus was really shitty for my mood made me really lazy and the blunting of cortisol when I’m in a caloric deficit using tren and T3, technically my cortisol should be high, so blunting it with KSM also caused some issues.

Every time I try Ashwagandha I get caught off guard about how potent the effect is within just 3 days. I am surprised it’s legally sold at every supplement shop. It has the zombifying effect that gymbros claim SSRIs give you.

 

[xrayphoton13]

Every time I try Ashwagandha I get caught off guard about how potent the effect is within just 3 days. I am surprised it’s legally sold at every supplement shop. It has the zombifying effect that gymbros claim SSRIs give you.

What kind do you take? I've only ever used the nutricost ksm66. I take one before bed and sleep great on gear. I've never noticed a zombifying effect but I don't take it during the day either

 

[mikeh1998]

What kind do you take? I've only ever used the nutricost ksm66. I take one before bed and sleep great on gear. I've never noticed a zombifying effect but I don't take it during the day either

I've tried KSM66 and "normal ashwagandha" from a handful of different brands including Himalaya, 88 herbs, Webber Naturals (sold at Costco IRL) and they all had just as potent of a zombifying effect.

The zombifying effect happens to me no matter when I take it during the day and usually takes a couple days to kick in and then sometimes I don't realize I'm basically sleepwalking through life until a week or so when I realize I don't have any clean clothes to wear and am falling behind on at work.

I do have ADHD too which compounds this but this shit is stronger than Vyvanse and Bupropion I swear.

 

[Deadpool99]

I've tried KSM66 and "normal ashwagandha" from a handful of different brands including Himalaya, 88 herbs, Webber Naturals (sold at Costco IRL) and they all had just as potent of a zombifying effect.

The zombifying effect happens to me no matter when I take it during the day and usually takes a couple days to kick in and then sometimes I don't realize I'm basically sleepwalking through life until a week or so when I realize I don't have any clean clothes to wear and am falling behind on at work.

I do have ADHD too which compounds this but this shit is stronger than Vyvanse and Bupropion I swear.

They rly work. My cortisol went from elevated above to under reference. Not exaggerating.

Months of being like a zombie and this was the underlying cause, bruh.

 

[mikeh1998]

They rly work. My cortisol went from elevated above to under reference. Not exaggerating.

Months of being like a zombie and this was the underlying cause, bruh.

That’s a really interesting anecdote thanks.

I’ve had a problem in the past couple of weeks where I always had to pee at 3-4 AM and couldn’t go back to sleep even after controlling water intake and so on.

Took some ashwagandha last night and that solved it, got a full actual 8 hours with good REM. Only change was that I was lazy asf and couldn’t get out of bed. Usually even if my sleep is trash I get out of bed pretty quick.

Probably too low cortisol, if I had to guess.