Test + Dbol Cycle Design

Cruise22

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I’ve been on Test P for about 4 months now—started at 30mg a day and just bumped it up to 60mg recently (titrated from 30 > 40 > 50 with most recent labs done at 50 mg two weeks ago). All my bloodwork looks good, except LH and FSH are totally shut down. I’ve been dying to throw in something new but couldn’t decide. I’ve been dropping weight slowly, eating at maintenance most days and dipping below 1-2 times a week. Sitting at around 185lbs, probably 12-15% BF—got a visible four-pack without flexing, plus veins popping in my legs and arms.

Not super into that super dry, hard, vascular look, so I’m thinking about adding DBol just pre-workout, like 5-10mg, to get a fuller, rounder look. My E2 was 20 pg/mL on 50mg Test P daily. Since I don’t aromatize a ton, is bumping to 60mg and tossing in DBol only on training days (pre-workout, 5-10mg, 3-4 days a week) a smart move? Or are there better “wet” compounds for that full, pumped feel? Got Primo on hand if E2 spikes too much—hoping to keep it 25-35 pg/mL on 60mg. I know DBol turns into 17α-methylestradiol instead of straight E2, so no real controlling that, which is why I’d only hit it pre-workout a few days a week.
 
I'm not saying it's made up. But there's no pip in prop.

Agree to disagree. Your anecdotal experience does not align with the dozens of others I've read.

But don't you want stable levels? Then you inject every day. Test is test, no matter the ester, are you able to understand that part? Yes, it's more volume, but still test

I have them with my test E pinning MWF. I'll be switching to test D soon so even more stable.

What are you even on about here? Trying to say that pinning P daily is more stable than E thrice weekly? If it is, it is so negligible that 99% of users would see no perceptible impact. But the injection frequency is halved. That is noticeable.


Even cost, E or C even Sust are cheaper mg/$. And I gave you that one about tissue, that was never something I was trying argue.

That comment wasn't even to you. It's fine you love your P, crack on. But don't delude yourself. It's a weird hill to die on.
 
Agree to disagree. Your anecdotal experience does not align with the dozens of others I've read.


I have them with my test E pinning MWF. I'll be switching to test D soon so even more stable.

What are you even on about here? Trying to say that pinning P daily is more stable than E thrice weekly? If it is, it is so negligible that 99% of users would see no perceptible impact. But the injection frequency is halved. That is noticeable.




That comment wasn't even to you. It's fine you love your P, crack on. But don't delude yourself. It's a weird hill to die on.
I haven't seen anyone complaining of pip from prop.

Im not saying it's more stable, but either way for stable levels you should pin ED no matter the ester. Either way pinning MWF is not as stable as ED or EOD, there's a 2 day gap. Now you feel amazing, I've done the same as you, I feel great aswell. But so do I with prop.

I'll keep repeating myself test is test doesn't matter the ester.

I know it wasn't to me but still I'm allowed to answer it. I'm not dying on any hill. But completely ruling out prop without any evidence is dumb.

I love arguing with you pookies, really nice to have different perspectives. <3
 
I haven't seen anyone complaining of pip from prop.

Im not saying it's more stable, but either way for stable levels you should pin ED no matter the ester. Either way pinning MWF is not as stable as ED or EOD, there's a 2 day gap. Now you feel amazing, I've done the same as you, I feel great aswell. But so do I with prop.

I'll keep repeating myself test is test doesn't matter the ester.

I know it wasn't to me but still I'm allowed to answer it. I'm not dying on any hill. But completely ruling out prop without any evidence is dumb.

I love arguing with you pookies, really nice to have different perspectives. <3

Ill state my position one last time with zero ambiguity. Longer esters are for tissue accrual. The sheer number of real bbers' ester choices in the off season should make this obvious. The serum stability is a non-factor when injection frequency is reasonable (2-3 x week).

Prop is for dialing in during prep or for when you're switching to longer esters which take more time to saturate. That's why sust has prop in it.

I never once completely ruled it out. This discussion can't be continued in good faith due to all strawmen you keep lining up.
 
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