Super slow lifting, your thoughts?

I have to be totally honest here and say that when I followed Arnold's encyclopedia of bodybuilding I got JACK SHIT compared to gains made from reading material from Mentzer, Arthur Jones, and Ellington Darden, all who believed in slow reps and ZERO MOMENTUM.

Mentzer may have been an ass and a little off the rocker, but he was right about a lot too. Look at Dorian Yates, he trained that way and he was a fucking beast!! The only thing I modify myself is intermittent periods of faster reps and lighter weights solely for recovery from HIT and to avoid injury (Dorian admits now that he would have backed off himself at times back then) so it'll be like 6 weeks of HIT and super slow reps, then a few weeks of volume
/Nubret style training and the rinse and repeat
I agree with the Mentzer HD training. Back in the natty days that was my ticket man. Just like you said i literally went from the massive Arnold Encyclopedia and all its failures and right in to HD training and blew everything out of the water. I was shocked at the difference night and day it did to my physique. Remember were still talking natty. No drugs. Ive been told by certified trainers and online gurus Mentzer training doesnt work that VOLUME is the only way to go. And i dont got much to say to them except their wrong.

It wasnt that Mentzer preached slow reps just no momentum, complete and utter failure and a minimalist approach to working sets. Every workout revolved around a superset to utter failure and one more exercise for that bodypart to utter failure. Sessions were short. Maybe 30 minutes and done. Extremely demanding due to the RPE near the top and a warriors mentality to reach true failure. It was hard to do that every workout because being tired often masked true failure. Or the unwillingness to cross over the pain threshold for that session. Very difficult
 
One of my favorite mike mentzer quotes

He stood only 5'8' yet packed 215 pounds of rock-solid muscle on his frame. His triceps, in particular, when viewed from behind, reminded one of two large watermelons hanging out of a T-shirt. Reports varied as to the actual size of his arms. When Mike Mentzer was asked how big they were at one of his seminars, he responded with characteristic wryness, 'Very big.'

I once asked Mike what his arms had taped at their largest, and his answer startled me: 'About 18 1/2 inches.' I was incredulous. 'But they look well over 20 inches!' I exclaimed. 'Pumped, they probably are, John,' he replied, 'but measured cold'which is how you should measure your arms'they never stretched the tape beyond 18 1/2.'

Upon hearing that, I quickly realized how much deceit was being practiced in the bodybuilding world, where champions whose arms were obviously far less substantial than Mike's would loudly proclaim measurements of 21 inches or, in some instances that stretched credibility to the breaking point, 22 inches.
 
One of my favorite mike mentzer quotes

He stood only 5'8' yet packed 215 pounds of rock-solid muscle on his frame. His triceps, in particular, when viewed from behind, reminded one of two large watermelons hanging out of a T-shirt. Reports varied as to the actual size of his arms. When Mike Mentzer was asked how big they were at one of his seminars, he responded with characteristic wryness, 'Very big.'

I once asked Mike what his arms had taped at their largest, and his answer startled me: 'About 18 1/2 inches.' I was incredulous. 'But they look well over 20 inches!' I exclaimed. 'Pumped, they probably are, John,' he replied, 'but measured cold'which is how you should measure your arms'they never stretched the tape beyond 18 1/2.'

Upon hearing that, I quickly realized how much deceit was being practiced in the bodybuilding world, where champions whose arms were obviously far less substantial than Mike's would loudly proclaim measurements of 21 inches or, in some instances that stretched credibility to the breaking point, 22 inches.
Yes, I agree here. A quality 18 1/2" arm is a good arm. It's been rumored Arnold's were 22", but I've heard 19 3/8" was the actual measure
 
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