Subcutaneous advice

[Aiden7]

Hello i have a question about IM and SUBQ.

If you are doing 1 IM injection a week of Test E 250, what would be the similar if you wanted the same result but by injecting in subcutaneous ?
You could do 2 injection of half a ml a week would give you 250/week but would you get the same result ?

Are effect increase when IM ? are the risk increase in subq ?

Thank you

 

[slyfox115]

Ive seen some switch to subq and have it leave a big knot under the skin for a week or so. This didn’t happen to me though.

From what’ve I’ve seen some report with bloodwork there is less estrogen aroma rises when going subq vs IM. I have no data to back this up but just relaying some I’ve seen some report.

Not that studies showing subq are going to be the way to go down the road but these drugs were designed to go IM right off the bat. Drug companies who have staff much smarter than any of us decided this was the best route to go so I’m sticking with IM.

Less scar tissue down the road does seem prettt tempting though....

 

[Aiden7]

Hey mate thank you for your times !

Did you saw this documentary ? he is making him doing it subQ and he is the guys who managed the whole olympic russian team. He is a master but im trying to understand why he is making them doing this like this. 40mg EOW of test p in the documentary.

 

[slyfox115]

Hey mate thank you for your times !

Did you saw this documentary ? he is making him doing it subQ and he is the guys who managed the whole olympic russian team. He is a master but im trying to understand why he is making them doing this like this. 40mg EOW of test p in the documentary.

What documentary? Honestly being everyone reacts so differently I’d say try it, see how you feel, and confirm with bloodwork (assuming you have bloods from when you went with IM).

 

[ToastEater]

I go to an ageing specialist. Incredibly well versed former ER doc. She’s appropriately cynical of drug companies, universities, the entire health system, and lobbyists, and their motives. She’s not brainwashed by anyone. Anyway, she prescribed my TRT by sub-q. I will say this: I was stupid and stabbed my abdomen with a 1.5” 22ga pin at a 45 degree angle, all the way in. Only 0.3cc. That was a month ago. I can still feel the long lump. It’s settling but it’s been 4 weeks. Use a higher gauge 1” needle, shoot it slow, pause when done, and pull out slow. Don’t shoot any more than a cc. Most recommend less than that for subq. Just squeeze the fat, pin, plunge while releasing the fat, hold, pull.

 

[Aiden7]

Thank you Toasteater for your advice ! how much are you injecting by week ? and wich test please ?

Documentary is call " ICARE "

 

[ToastEater]

U got it bro

Delatestryl - 200mg x 10ml Test E

120mg/wk

Wednesday / Saturday 0.3cc each time

Right now I use a 1” 21ga pin and it’s fine

I’ll probably try something smaller soon but from what I’m reading the pin size doesn’t play a role in PIP, scarring, or the lump.

I’ll get smaller pins because I want to be forced to go slower when I circulate IM into the routine. Plus I’m competing this fall and I can’t have lumps going into the show.

 

[Aiden7]

Did you saw a difference with 120mg only into your body ? physically i mean.

 

[ToastEater]

I think your question relates to performance enhancement. If so, then yes. But I’ve had multiple head injuries. Even though my body was producing natural test my receptors didn’t know what to do with it. So I got prescribed TRT. It’s modest. But it’s noticeable. I feel younger. I’m 44. But do NOT go TRT if you EVER wanna have kids.

 

[Aiden7]

I mean i just want to do this for 12 weeks and getting more mass since its my first cycle and i will not stop eating correctly and training hard i will keep some mass and that my objective i want just a little more

 

[ToastEater]

I see. Again, I’m not the most experienced member but I can help with basics. What’s your age and stats?

 

[Aiden7]

Im 33 years old 1,85 80kg i just want to get a lil bit more that all that my vision i'm not here to be competiting but to achieve something that products will give me

 

[ToastEater]

If this is your first cycle you’ll probably see modest gains from that dosage with minimal sides. Keep it under 10 weeks so your return to natty is smooth. Wise to have some AI on hand and you’ll still need to run full PCT. Please don’t do a first cycle without these simple precautions. If you’re set on a shorter cycle then Test P is better because it ramps up and down faster. Test E has a longer half life so it ramps up to full potency by about week 3 and tapers down at a similar pace. Timing your PCT will be a bit simpler with Test P. But you could always get both, and front load with Test P for a few weeks while the Test E picks up.