Stretch is not a scammer

Pericles

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Greetings, all.

I wanted to create a thread, so that this post is not buried at the bottom of the Bio thread.

Stretch and I have been text messaging today about me getting my Rips and a few other things. Why would he be doing so, if he simply wanted to scam me?

Also, his father really did die. I am not going public as to how or why I know, but I am pretty certain. There are other things going on w/ him as well. What he is, is very emotionally distraught. He feels hurt, and angry.

Don't misinterpret. He should have handled the situation differently. He should have come onto the board and explained what was going on w/ him. He needed to step back, put himself into the position of the people who invested and understand how it feels to have money hanging out for 6 plus weeks.

Look at his behavior. Some times he would lash out, but he always, always came back and apologized. I also do this^.

I do believe that yes, he may piss on our Rips. Maybe even poop on them too.

But I do not think he is a liar or a scammer. I believe that my Rips will arrive soon. They are pretty well sealed, so a simple washing and disinfecting w/ get rid of the excrement.
 
Greetings, all.

I wanted to create a thread, so that this post is not buried at the bottom of the Bio thread.

Stretch and I have been text messaging today about me getting my Rips and a few other things. Why would he be doing so, if he simply wanted to scam me?

Also, his father really did die. I am not going public as to how or why I know, but I am pretty certain. There are other things going on w/ him as well. What he is, is very emotionally distraught. He feels hurt, and angry.

Don't misinterpret. He should have handled the situation differently. He should have come onto the board and explained what was going on w/ him. He needed to step back, put himself into the position of the people who invested and understand how it feels to have money hanging out for 6 plus weeks.

Look at his behavior. Some times he would lash out, but he always, always came back and apologized. I also do this^.

I do believe that yes, he may piss on our Rips. Maybe even poop on them too.

But I do not think he is a liar or a scammer. I believe that my Rips will arrive soon. They are pretty well sealed, so a simple washing and disinfecting w/ get rid of the excrement.

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You are texting Stretch so you are obviously "friends" with him and are looking out for his best interest, but not everyone else. If he still owes people money or gear and has not refunded them he is a scammer period.
 
Why won't stretch come on the the board to say so for himself??

Well, for starters, stretch has always been fond of Peri and has a great deal of respect for him. I believe I remember Stretch once called Peri a great "Ambassador" for Meso? `I could, of course, be making all of this up.
 
I honestly don't know what the fuck is going on so I have no dog in this fight. But I can say that when people, many people, lose a loved one they tend to lash out at others and some really start to reconsider changing their life (if you have ever been shot or had a near death experience maybe you would understand, death tends to do this), and some become very apathetic and/or angry. I've seen people go into major depression after the loss of a loved one and I have seen some people attempt to commit suicide. I realize the importance of professionalism, but when things like this happen some times people just say fuck it all and don't want to deal with life's complications and the last thing they want to deal with is being flamed by a bunch of people on a forum.

I have known people who have lost a loved one and have changed their lives completely, giving up on criminal activity all together. Death is a real eye opener for some people. And others have a really hard time coping with it.

The issue still stands with group buy though, if the goods aren't delivered or the money isn't refunded than you become a thief and a scammer, despite the circumstances, unless you got robbed or locked up. :eek:

To date I think everyone has received gear from Bio? The issue is still with the rips and well the threat of sending someone a "hot pack" or releasing their personal info online. Though I never really understood what exactly was intended by the threat because it was a very unspecific threat, I guess others understood.
 
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I personally agree with PC.
I honestly believe everyone will get their stuff, even if it takes a while. Like we all said, this game is nothing that we can demand short turnaround, especially considering all that's involved. Delayed time, frustration, a short dissappearance, should not be a reason to crucify Stretch, as long as he makes good on everything. Order from most of these other guys everyone consideres GTG like EK, Naps, etc, and you'll not hear from them for days/weeks as well. I definitely understand alot of the reason why the vets here are crushing him and Bio, and that's fine. Who's to say who's right or wrong, but as long as everyone gets their shit, then I say it wasn't such a huge butt-fucking.
I will say tho, I agree that the attitudes of Stretch and Bio lately, have definitely been out of character and pissed off alot of folks. This is just me talking, but, "I don't give a shit about politeness, ass-kissing, giving people over the top customer service, sweet talking, promises, ets; it's all about delivery. Actions speak louder than words!" I seriously doubt hes gonna actually shit and piss on anybodys stuff. Hes prolly just frustrated.
Shit, how many people have BB, Jim, etc, pissed off and been an asshole too, and everyone still considers those guys cool. They are most definitely good, but just because they rubbed many people wrong, doesn't mean we should all ban them from the community and hate them. Everybody gets in bad situations and gets pissed when shit gets challenging.
ALL THAT SAID, IF HE DOES NOT PULL THRU, THEN IM MOST DEF WRONG! But If I had to bet on it, I think he will.
I know I will hear many flames now, but that's just my opinion of my experiences, conversations, and deductions from my experiences with them.
Much respect and love this forum.
 
I personally agree with PC.
I honestly believe everyone will get their stuff, even if it takes a while. Like we all said, this game is nothing that we can demand short turnaround, especially considering all that's involved. Delayed time, frustration, a short dissappearance, should not be a reason to crucify Stretch, as long as he makes good on everything.

No? How about this:

So if one of my parents just died, I should have been here because you were concerned about your couple of hundred bucks? Fuck you man. Really.

A couple of hundred bucks that you ONLY sent me because HK WOULDN'T ship to you?

A couple of hundred bucks that I didn't even accept FOR PROFIT, I only accepted to try to help and better the community for PEANUTS/kit....

What you're saying is...I should be concerned to update you on the few hundred you may have lost...In the midst of my personal/professional life crumbling? You think you bought yourself a "farm hand" for that couple hundred?! Fuck you. I'm gonna piss on your kits before I send them.

Still no? How about this:

Some will say I owe a bunch of you guys my left testicle, because I "profited from the community"......well, I respectfully disagree.

I will do everything I can to live up to every promise or assurance I extended to you guys while I was working as a source. But some kind of mystical, fairy-tale, responsiblity that I have to you??...ummm no. I'm a drug dealer. You are a drug purchaser. Period.

How about lying about the reason for the delay of the group buy by saying it went to the wrong receiver when there were two seperate receivers. He could have filled his orders from the other receiver's stock.

If that doesn't convince you, perhaps this email from Bio's website will. It is in response to a question asking why Stretch scammed Meso members. Bio essential confirmed a scam had taken place:

biologic01@countermail.com
Today at 8:07 PM
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Im so upset about that. I was the closest to Stretch and now he even disappeared on me. He made some very bad decisions on how he dealt with that issue. I even bought in but I lost 10kish. I know he did not do it intentionally. That HOmer Kahn guy never pulled through and he was embarrassed and did not want to face it. I always offered my home to him, a job and everything... Dont know why he would not stay in touch with me... ???

Or this:

Originally Posted by biologicpharma
THere are things that you dont know. I do understand all of your frustrations. Im saying this beacause I am sure you were in on the HK buy. If not you are just another Dr. Jim stirring up shit. If you are let me know because we are going to have a little homecoming for Jim when Stretch gets back. I just dont know why Stretch is not read to voice on the board? The only thing I can think of is he feels bad because HK dicked him around for 3 weeks and is dreading all the questions on the boards. I have never even been on here and until recently and I see posts like yours. I really dont mind though. I think its cool because I know my world and I love it. But I do have a nice little surprise for you and Jim because of your posts. Give me a week. I made some contacts. Its going to be fun.
Keep talking shit and posting because if you stop it wont have the same effect..


Originally Posted by biologicpharma
I just copied and pasted your post and sent to Stretch. We knew you could'nt keep quiet for too long. A long time ago a suggested a little special something for you on the boards, but he said you guys were cool. I let it go. I know you must think you are invincible huh? We have a nice little surprise for you. Keep talking and posting because it will make it even better... I want you to build it up. I wanted to do this long time ago but Stretch said you guys are totally cool and that he respected you. I think you will appreciate this one..

I can't believe there is anyone dumb enough to still give this clown the benefit of the doubt.



Ridiculous!
 
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Stretch is no SCAMMER, LMAO!!

Hmm and there really are some of the DUMBEST SUCKERS world wide on this forum!

(But in fairness one should always consider the SOURCE and MOTIVES of such commentary, right PC. Shit why don't you just suck his wing wang perhaps that "indebtedness will double" LOL)

Yep posts like that can awaken the dead.
:)
 
No? How about this:



Still no? How about this:



How about lying about the reason for the delay of the group buy by saying it went to the wrong receiver when there were two seperate receivers. He could have filled his orders from the other receiver's stock.

If that doesn't convince you, perhaps this email from Bio's website will. It is in response to a question asking why Stretch scammed Meso members. Bio essential confirmed a scam had taken place:



Or this:






I can't believe there is anyone dumb enough to still give this clown the benefit of the doubt.

George Carlin Stupid People - YouTube

Ridiculous!

We will see. The important thing is that CBS and I are still BFFs' yes?

If not I will be emotionally distraught. :D
 
^^^
Dr Jim glad to see you back.
I would honestly stayed away I put my thoughts about the the whole situation on bios thread and they guy sent me a pm... Idk doesn't seem like a guy I want to work with
 
Stretch is no SCAMMER, LMAO!!

Hmm and there really are some of the DUMBEST SUCKERS world wide on this forum!

(But in fairness one should always consider the SOURCE and MOTIVES of such commentary, right PC. Shit why don't you just suck his wing wang perhaps that "indebtedness will double" LOL)

Yep posts like that can awaken the dead.
:)

Hey Doc....nice to see you. Quite the fucking mess, isn't it?
 
Well, for starters, stretch has always been fond of Peri and has a great deal of respect for him. I believe I remember Stretch once called Peri a great "Ambassador" for Meso? `I could, of course, be making all of this up.

He only said that because I was going to beat Jim and CBS up. I can't remember, was I banned for 2 weeks or a month?
 
01-07-2014 | 04:53 PM
biologicpharma
I dont need a side show so I post here for you. YOu can copy and paste if you like.. The common theme here is people like you who give their opinions are never based on our service first hand. In other words only non-customers talk shit. There are no threats. There simply two types of people. You know the ones that dont post? Those are the ones that are still customers. 10% of our business comes from MESO. and 2% of that 10% does not order. All customers that got poor service were offered free products on their next order. WHy you dont know is cause you were not one. I am totally satisfied with how we recovered. Under dosing? Righhhht. IM going to under dose when it is so cheap to produce. Under dosing is not 2200 on a blood test that varies within 1,000ng/l depending on other factors in the body. You test the bottle for accuracy. We are happy.. What threats? Its a promotion and it has worked very well. In not saying you cannot voice. You seem to do well at it.."

I got that sent to me... He said I could post it so why not.
 
01-07-2014 | 04:53 PM
biologicpharma
I dont need a side show so I post here for you. YOu can copy and paste if you like.. The common theme here is people like you who give their opinions are never based on our service first hand. In other words only non-customers talk shit. There are no threats. There simply two types of people. You know the ones that dont post? Those are the ones that are still customers. 10% of our business comes from MESO. and 2% of that 10% does not order. All customers that got poor service were offered free products on their next order. WHy you dont know is cause you were not one. I am totally satisfied with how we recovered. Under dosing? Righhhht. IM going to under dose when it is so cheap to produce. Under dosing is not 2200 on a blood test that varies within 1,000ng/l depending on other factors in the body. You test the bottle for accuracy. We are happy.. What threats? Its a promotion and it has worked very well. In not saying you cannot voice. You seem to do well at it.."

I got that sent to me... He said I could post it so why not.

10% of their business comes from Meso, he says. Considering 100% came from Meso prior to Stretch scamming and issuing threats, that's a 90% drop. Although I'd be surprised if it's that high. I know some people are dense enough to continue doing business with Bio but I doubt it's 10%. Maybe 1-2% but no more.
 
Originally Posted by biologicpharma
I do have a nice little surprise for you and Jim because of your posts. Give me a week. I made some contacts. Its going to be fun.

Keep talking shit and posting because if you stop it wont have the same effect..

Regardless if stretch is a scammer or not he is absolutely responsible for this statement and this crime in my opinion is way more impactful to a persons life than scamming. There will be consequences......
 

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