JackC4
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^^^ no he does not
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^^^then it's just my personal opinion he should go pester somewhere else. There's enough worrying from legitimate customers...we don't need that crap.
Kubrick
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Maybe he is actually right. The dude is weird but he's right at the moment. People put a lot I trust into a stranger and now he's gone. I like that everyone is trying to be positive. The fact is stretch might have fucked some people or he might have some legitimate problems. Either way people have the right to call it like they see it, good or bad.
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I agree w you 100%, but the people that have that right should be the people w something vested in the situation IMO. Maybe I'm looking at it the wrong way. But...I'm not gonna get on a thread & start calling someone a scammer & telling everyone they got screwed, when I don't have any history or rhyme or reason other than just trying to cause problems (2 pennies)
ironwill1951
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you know guys the only thing that matters is that stretch pulled a dissapearing act.
no matter whats going on he can give up a little of his time to post something
no matter whats going on he can give up a little of his time to post something
Stretch
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So if one of my parents just died, I should have been here because you were concerned about your couple of hundred bucks? Fuck you man. Really.
A couple of hundred bucks that you ONLY sent me because HK WOULDN'T ship to you?
A couple of hundred bucks that I didn't even accept FOR PROFIT, I only accepted to try to help and better the community for PEANUTS/kit....
What you're saying is...I should be concerned to update you on the few hundred you may have lost...In the midst of my personal/professional life crumbling? You think you bought yourself a "farm hand" for that couple hundred?! Fuck you. I'm gonna piss on your kits before I send them.
I just finally got word that the GH has all landed domestically. It will be forwarded to me, and then to you.
Please don't order from Biologic. I have no interest in ANYONE sending ANY more money to Biologic or any other source for that matter. This isn't about me fixing some bullshit reputation that I had so I can profit again. This is about me living up to what I said I would do.
Any form of explanation I could give would sound like nothing more than an excuse. So, what was I supposed to do? HK WOULD NOT COMMUNICATE WITH ME. He had $1,000's of my money and no communication for 2 weeks. I was trying to handle the issue, among a whirlwind of personal issues, the best I could.
I should have been better about communicating with you guys.
I defy anyone here who would assert that they would have handled the situation differently/better if they were in my same position. Most of you have no clue about what's really going on in my life.
Biologic crumbling is small potatoes. Fuck it. I'm burnt out.
Before circumstances forced me off the boards.... I was logging in to have 10 guys asking me about their 2 kits
I didn't have answers for you guys. I was just a middleman with no control over the logistical side of things. AND YOU KNEW THIS WHEN YOU SENT YOUR MONEY! I explained to all of you fuckers that I am at the MERCY of HK!! I can't fucking fly to china and make him send kits. I posted emails showing you guys that I am asking him to communicate with me and showing that I was, basically, being ignored by HK...meaning I assumed at the time, that he was stealing $14k from me....but NO ONE seems to realize..."damn, he has a little of my money...but FUCK..he has a TON of Stretch's money"
At any rate, I'm done bitching about things. All in all, I was shown a heap of respect by most members on this board. I really worked hard to be the best at this that I could be, and I wish all of you the best in my absence.
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biologic@securenym.netIs the email where you can reach me to send me your shipping address for your kits. Make "GH" the subject line when sending messages regarding your prepaid Riptropin purchase.
Stretch
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Another thing.
I explained to all of you, at the time that you sent your funds, that I would NOT hold your shipping address.
In the event that something crazy happened (as it did) I didn't want your shipping addresses and your orders, just sitting in my inbox or otherwise vulnerable to being exposed by LE.
So, obviously, at this moment. I need all of your shipping addresses.
You guys have 14 days to get me these addresses. In 14 days I am getting everything illegal as far away from myself as possible. I want a legit life. I want to be able to see 5.0 sitting parked on my street and not need to wonder why he's there.
Any kits that were paid for and not claimed by the purchaser will be given away after the deadline.
I explained to all of you, at the time that you sent your funds, that I would NOT hold your shipping address.
In the event that something crazy happened (as it did) I didn't want your shipping addresses and your orders, just sitting in my inbox or otherwise vulnerable to being exposed by LE.
So, obviously, at this moment. I need all of your shipping addresses.
You guys have 14 days to get me these addresses. In 14 days I am getting everything illegal as far away from myself as possible. I want a legit life. I want to be able to see 5.0 sitting parked on my street and not need to wonder why he's there.
Any kits that were paid for and not claimed by the purchaser will be given away after the deadline.
searay
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Fuck him stretch and big mouth bitches just like him! What a joke! I told him from the beginning youd make it right! Old bitter bitch should be his name.
The amount of money involved is irrelevant. You know full well people were justified with their concerns.
Let me be very clear here so there is no doubt. YOUR CUSTOMERS ARE GUILTY OF NOTHING. They cannot be held responsible for anything that has transpired over the past two weeks.
What's really sad in all this is the majority of your customers were too scared to even question you and Bio publicly because they thought it would be held against them and they'd never get their orders.
That is the price of doing business. You signed up for this, you weren't forced into it. When people trust you with their money, you have a duty and an obligation to keep them informed. You OWE them that much respect. Unless you are PHYSICALLY unable to communicate, there is NO valid excuse for going MIA.
Classy.
Considering the person supposedly in charge of Bio is a threatening, psychopathic prick, I don't think anybody in their right mind will be doing business with them.
So what.., you thought stopping your communication (like HK) was a better option?
No matter what is going on in your personal life, there is no reason you couldn't have taken a couple of minutes to write a few lines on Meso, just to let your customers know you hadn't run off with their money.
When sources go MIA, the first thing everyone thinks is scam - you know it and I know it - yet you decided to go into hiding anyway. Obviously, that decision was a gross miscalculation.
No. You should HAVE communicated. PERIOD!
People that run businesses just don't vanish and let their business crumble every time they have personal difficulties. It just doesn't happen. They accept that life throws curve-balls, and then they deal with it like mature, responsible adults.
Biologic crumbling is small potatoes. Fuck it. I'm burnt out.
Before circumstances forced me off the boards.... I was logging in to have 10 guys asking me about their 2 kits
I posted emails showing you guys that I am asking him to communicate with me and showing that I was, basically, being ignored by HK...meaning I assumed at the time, that he was stealing $14k from me....but NO ONE seems to realize..."damn, he has a little of my money...but FUCK..he has a TON of Stretch's money"
And yet you ended up doing the same thing.
Regards
CBS
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drockspang1
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Searay: We don't know each other, and you seem alright by the majority of your posts. Just an observation here... It's time to get off Stretch's dick, bro. He & Bio are done here on Meso. If by nothing more then his own admission
Stretch: I can't figure out for the life of me wtf happened to you in the past 2 weeks bro. Life happens ALL the time brother. My closet brother to me(3.5 yrs apart in age), someone I grew up with, looked up to, was one of my closet friends, committed suicide 2 years ago. I was back at work the day after the funeral. Life moves on bro. If you truly want out of the game... nobody can argue with that. But let people know what's going on man. I had a lot of respect for you Stretch. Fuck the ugl bullshit. I always knew you were making money & that's what that was mostly about. But on a personal level. You seemed like you had a pretty good head on your shoulders. You always seemed honest & up front. To leave it like this is terrible. You've done, imo, irreparable damage here bro. For what? Because you're "burnt out"? Get the fuck outta here with that! Grow the fuck up man. You have peoples money, and when a guy asks you about it... you tell him you're going to "piss on his kits before you mail them"? Real classy dude.
And I'll be totally up front here, and disclose to the Meso community: I reached out to Stretch a couple weeks ago about POSSIBLY helping him by becoming a "shipper" for him. I too bought in to the hype. Glad that didn't pan out.
Anyway, there's an old saying: "Sometimes you can't see the forest through the trees". You're living that right now my friend. You may someday want to get back into this business, but you've burnt that bridge, imo. Any good bro, will kindly remind you of your recent transgressions if you should ever pop your head back up on the grid. If you never come back... well I guess you wont have to worry about it?
Best of luck
Pericles
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Woe, Woe. Woa: Did you say one of your parents died?
If so, that is terrible, and justifies a break. When my mother died (dad died when I was 10) I had to kennel my dogs and fly out to CA. I had to make funeral arrangements, write an obituary and take care of a ton of things.
I had no access to a computer, even if I had the time to use it.
And lets be clear, I am not kissing up to Stretch. I have always been forthright and spoken my mind w/ him.
Yes, his business partner needs some interpersonal skills. Yes this whole affair could have been managed better. Yes I needed to get my IFBB pro on Rips, Yes I was becoming concerned about my order, but overall I kept my faith because Stretch has never let me down.
It bears repeating that shit happens in this game that results in delays.
The bottom line for me is that my product is on the way.
If so, that is terrible, and justifies a break. When my mother died (dad died when I was 10) I had to kennel my dogs and fly out to CA. I had to make funeral arrangements, write an obituary and take care of a ton of things.
I had no access to a computer, even if I had the time to use it.
And lets be clear, I am not kissing up to Stretch. I have always been forthright and spoken my mind w/ him.
Yes, his business partner needs some interpersonal skills. Yes this whole affair could have been managed better. Yes I needed to get my IFBB pro on Rips, Yes I was becoming concerned about my order, but overall I kept my faith because Stretch has never let me down.
It bears repeating that shit happens in this game that results in delays.
The bottom line for me is that my product is on the way.
Bucky
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CBS, I agree with you in most of what you said. Personal life and business should be 2 separate entities. However, very few people know what happened to him personally (myself included) and it seems shit hit the fan with him all at once. Different people handle things differently. I can understand that if someone is going through so much mental anguish that they would like to avoid some of the stressors in their life. Keeping us updated would have been nice, but the fact of the matter is he didn't have the shit and didn't know WTF was up with it. Plenty of people come out of the woodwork to kick the man when he is down and stir shit up to get his customers worried. The only people who should be posting in this thread are the ones involved in the transaction and their feedback on the situation.
I predict this will not end well. If it does then great but I have seen these posts hundreds of times and the vast majority always end the same.
johnnyBALLZ
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Not going to end well? Could you expand on that because from what I've read it's already over except for 15 kits of GH that have to be delivered..
I get what you're saying for the most part CBS but the guy was gone for 11 freaking days.. Anyone could have still gotten in touch with bio through the website, although after what you posted yesterday I wouldn't be thrilled about having to go that route..
I'm not saying Stretch deserves a pass but fuck, it just seems some people are really running with this shit..
searay
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Searay: We don't know each other, and you seem alright by the majority of your posts. Just an observation here... It's time to get off Stretch's dick, bro. He & Bio are done here on Meso. If by nothing more then his own admission
Stretch: I can't figure out for the life of me wtf happened to you in the past 2 weeks bro. Life happens ALL the time brother. My closet brother to me(3.5 yrs apart in age), someone I grew up with, looked up to, was one of my closet friends, committed suicide 2 years ago. I was back at work the day after the funeral. Life moves on bro. If you truly want out of the game... nobody can argue with that. But let people know what's going on man. I had a lot of respect for you Stretch. Fuck the ugl bullshit. I always knew you were making money & that's what that was mostly about. But on a personal level. You seemed like you had a pretty good head on your shoulders. You always seemed honest & up front. To leave it like this is terrible. You've done, imo, irreparable damage here bro. For what? Because you're "burnt out"? Get the fuck outta here with that! Grow the fuck up man. You have peoples money, and when a guy asks you about it... you tell him you're going to "piss on his kits before you mail them"? Real classy dude.
And I'll be totally up front here, and disclose to the Meso community: I reached out to Stretch a couple weeks ago about POSSIBLY helping him by becoming a "shipper" for him. I too bought in to the hype. Glad that didn't pan out.
Anyway, there's an old saying: "Sometimes you can't see the forest through the trees". You're living that right now my friend. You may someday want to get back into this business, but you've burnt that bridge, imo. Any good bro, will kindly remind you of your recent transgressions if you should ever pop your head back up on the grid. If you never come back... well I guess you wont have to worry about it?
Best of luck
Drockspang no dick rider here. What would even be the use? I am loyal I consider him my friend. I have taken flack for that. Was called a jim jones follower. Lol! Ill admit my emotions got me a little on my post. But hey a friend is hurt and imo has done nothing to anyone here. He is not herc he has gone no where. He was hurt . only a few know of his personal losses over last 2 months.i dont know how he carried it on as long as he did. Much less the business end.
Never received 1 free thing from him in fact I tipped him for the help. Im still his friend reguardless if he's in this business. Lol! As I said before if someone's my friend then im all in. If a get a call from a friend im coming my only question is how many you want me to bring with me. If we were friends regardless of whether I was getting gear from you or you from me that would not change a thing. If Loyalty is a crime then im guilty!
If it seems like people are running with it, it's because of how seriously this type of thing is taken. Sources just don't destroy hard earned reputations - it just doesn't happen. When Heavy said he's seen this hundreds of times, he's not embellishing. Anybody that's played the game long enough will instantly recognize the sequence of events we've just watched as an scam unfolding, because they've seen it happen "hundreds of times."
And at the risk of sounding like a broken record, I guarantee you Stretch is not surprised at the reaction - whether he admits it or not.
But you know what makes all this even worse for me? When Stretch does show up, rather than be contrite and apologize for running out on his customers, he threatens to piss in the guy's GH before he sends it to him because he had the audacity to complain. That is the epitome of childish. Unbelievable!
drockspang1
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^^^ Searay: I can respect that bro. I appreciate your honesty. If it was from the heart, and you consider Stretch a friend, then you're a solid bro. I apologize for implying anything different.
I couldn't disagree with that comment more strongly. Many of us at Meso feel an obligation to to protect the community from the multitude of shady sources and scammers that seek to prey on them, particularly the noobs. I've made my feelings clear about that and Meso's sources many times before.
Maybe I'm in the minority but I DO NOT believe anyone is above reproach when it comes to the ugl world. No one gets a pass from me when things start to look bad. Ever. I've seen the most standup guys you could ever meet, go bad - guys you would never expect to run off with people's money. There is no one and no thing that could surprise me in the ugl world anymore.
What you call "stiring shit up," I call looking out for the members best interests. When I and others receive PMs from Bio customers who are afraid of repercussions for voicing their concerns publically (and for good reason - see what happened to Ironwill51), I, for one, am thankful there are others who will step up and say what needs to be said. It's unfortunate that you don't.
Regards
CBS
Bucky
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Do you honestly think Dr Jim, Dbolman, and others (not digging through these threads to argue here) are looking out for the member's best interests? It is obvious Dbolman has an agenda. He is sour for some reason or just a troll. Dr Jim has beef with Stretch because stretch was butting heads with GETM. He will take jabs at stretch any chance he can get.
Will I get my growth? Only time will tell. I am not going to start crying on the thread because it didn't show up in the time frame it was supposed to. At this point, the growth has supposedly landed. I would not have ordered it had I known it was going to take this long, but a delay is better than getting burned outright.
As for stepping up and saying what needs to be said, I haven't had any negative experience with any of the 3 sources I dealt with on here (getm, astro, and bio). I gave my honest feedback and my bloodwork results from Astro. If I had gotten fucked I would have posted what happened. I have no experience and limited knowledge of brewing and powder identification, so I will let the guys that do know harass the latest UGL to pop up on here.
Will I get my growth? Only time will tell. I am not going to start crying on the thread because it didn't show up in the time frame it was supposed to. At this point, the growth has supposedly landed. I would not have ordered it had I known it was going to take this long, but a delay is better than getting burned outright.
As for stepping up and saying what needs to be said, I haven't had any negative experience with any of the 3 sources I dealt with on here (getm, astro, and bio). I gave my honest feedback and my bloodwork results from Astro. If I had gotten fucked I would have posted what happened. I have no experience and limited knowledge of brewing and powder identification, so I will let the guys that do know harass the latest UGL to pop up on here.
So how did this end? Everyone happy?
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