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In your opinion do you things will start getting bad? Asking because if so I probably should stock up on TRT now before it’s too late.

It's already bad for those who were accustomed to cheap Chinese gear.

What does it cost to run Primo now vs 6 months ago?

Domestic suppliers still have enough raws to keep going for a while, so that side isn't as affected. I doubt you'll see many discounts though, and if this drags on, prices will increase as raws dwindle or become more costly to acquire.
 
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It's already bad for those who were accustomed to cheap Chinese gear.

What does it cost to run Primo now vs 6 months ago?

Domestic suppliers still have enough raws to keep going for a while, so that side isn't as affected. I doubt you'll see many discounts though, and if this drags on, prices will increase as raws dwindle or become more costly to acquire.
Prices might go up a little… but availability isn’t goin anywhere… you have mob affiliation to aas… look at eroids being affiliated with Russian mob ties… big money… Chuen Fat Yip… prolly azzociated wth q… look into one of his bust cple years back… nothing is going to change…
 
Prices might go up a little… but availability isn’t goin anywhere… you have mob affiliation to aas… look at eroids being affiliated with Russian mob ties… big money… Chuen Fat Yip… prolly azzociated wth q… look into one of his bust cple years back… nothing is going to change…

"Nothing is going to change" means being able to order a kit of Primo 200 for $200 delivered to your door from China in 2 weeks, with a 99.9% chance of arriving.

Of course things are going to change. They already have, and we aren't likely ever getting back to that.

Nobody says gear will be unavailable at any price. That's a straw man argument.
 
"Nothing is going to change" means being able to order a kit of Primo 200 for $200 delivered to your door from China in 2 weeks, with a 99.9% chance of arriving.

Of course things are going to change. They already have, and we aren't likely ever getting back to that.

Nobody says gear will be unavailable at any price. That's a straw man argument.
I’m not talking bout pricing… we have cheapest us dom pricing ever… yes it can go up… I’m talking availability… primo aint a necessity… its a drug of choice for enhancement.. we were lucky to see those prices… who ever didn’t stock up oh well…
 
Too low. Drugs that work must be priced higher per unit dose than shit supplements that don't. Everyone will appreciate the gear more and maybe use less. Win-win.

Human nature, etc., etc.,
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Oh I'm not saying it's a bad (or good) thing. A mixed bag like all situations.

Just the continuing echoes of "happens every year", "the Olympics", and "it'll all go back to 'normal' in a few weeks" in light of the fundamental changes that are occurring is just grating.

If you rely on self administered TRT, at the least, you'd better be prepared to ride out interruptions with a buffer supply on hand.
 
Oh I'm not saying it's a bad (or good) thing. A mixed bag like all situations.

Just the continuing echoes of "happens every year", "the Olympics", and "it'll all go back to 'normal' in a few weeks" in light of the fundamental changes that are occurring is just grating.

If you rely on self administered TRT, at the least, you'd better be prepared to ride out interruptions with a buffer supply on hand.
lol they shoulda listened to you … at least trt…
 
lol they shoulda listened to you … at least trt…

Stanford represents the top, premium quality end of the market, that's not as "price sensitive" as the QSC crowd.

That insulates his customers from some of the supply shocks going on.

Pretty typical dynamic. The affluent end of the market, more concerned with quality over cost, is always the last to feel any shortages, if they do at all.

Anyone who buy's Stan's gear is definately a more discerning consumer, willing to pay the cost for the value they get in return, and reliable availability is one of the benefits that comes with that.
 
Oh I'm not saying it's a bad (or good) thing. A mixed bag like all situations.

Just the continuing echoes of "happens every year", "the Olympics", and "it'll all go back to 'normal' in a few weeks" in light of the fundamental changes that are occurring is just grating.

If you rely on self administered TRT, at the least, you'd better be prepared to ride out interruptions with a buffer supply on hand.
How much of a buffer do you think is sufficient? I finally got myself feeling like a human again with TRT... I'm never going back! I am currently on 100mg of testosterone cypionate per week. I anticipate my weekly range to be between 100mg and 200mg per week depending on blood work.
 
How much of a buffer do you think is sufficient? I finally got myself feeling like a human again with TRT... I'm never going back! I am currently on 100mg of testosterone cypionate per week. I anticipate my weekly range to be between 100mg and 200mg per week depending on blood work.

I look at it this way. What's the expected shelf life of something I consider vital, and how much do I use?

It's pretty reasonable, based on what we know, to expect at least 5 years from a vial of Test-cyp. (likely quite a bit more).

5 years of TRT at your dose would be just 10 vials.

You have access to high quality, reasonably priced gear right now.

Now I'm not suggesting something could happen that would cause such a long shortage, but that's not a particularly big expense for an extended period of peace of mind regarding something so crucial to your quality of life. Then you can top off your supply as the opportunity presents itself, or go through the hassle of getting a prescription if you must, not necessarily an easy task depending on where you live. It's also likely far more expensive than the cost of those 10 vials.

Frankly, although domestic supply seems secure right now, we never know what kind of internal crackdown could happen. It's happened in the past (hopefully never again).

By maintaining a "buffer", you control your fate, and not leave it up to chance.

I just don't see a downside to this strategy, and an enormous upside if things go in an unexpected direction.
 
I look at it this way. What's the expected shelf life of something I consider vital, and how much do I use?

It's pretty reasonable, based on what we know, to expect at least 5 years from a vial of Test-cyp. (likely quite a bit more).

5 years of TRT at your dose would be just 10 vials.

You have access to high quality, reasonably priced gear right now.

Now I'm not suggesting something could happen that would cause such a long shortage, but that's not a particularly big expense for an extended period of peace of mind regarding something so crucial to your quality of life. Then you can top off your supply as the opportunity presents itself, or go through the hassle of getting a prescription if you must, not an easy task depending on where you live and your T level makes it difficult. It's also likely much far more expensive than the cost of those 10 vials.

Frankly, although domestic supply seems secure right now, we never know what kind of internal crackdown could happen. It's happened in the past (hopefully never again).

By maintaining a "buffer", you control your fate, and not leave it up to chance.

I just don't see a downside to this strategy, and an enormous upside if things go in an unexpected direction.
Understood! Thank you!
 
I would make it 20 vials just in case you do go to 200mg/week.

I agree 100% with keeping your options open by doing that.

At the least, square away the bare minimum, but, "anticipating your potential needs" kind of "stocking up" is even better.

And that should apply not just to AAS, but PCT + ancillaries (India pharma essentially), peptides, and compounds you think you'll want to try but haven't gotten around to yet.

All the things *they* may stop you from accessing, as your wallet allows ofc.
 
I agree 100% with keeping your options open by doing that.

At the least, square away the bare minimum, but, "anticipating your potential needs" kind of "stocking up" is even better.

And that should apply not just to AAS, but PCT + ancillaries (India pharma essentially), peptides, and compounds you think you'll want to try but haven't gotten around to yet.

All the things *they* may stop you from accessing, as your wallet allows ofc.
C'mon now, lets not create a panic buy before I can get my order in. Lol
 

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