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Excuse the stupid inquiry, but in terms of the raws purity. Is the remaining percentage (which is not the APi we’re after) thought to be simply inert / degraded TNE? Or are there things that we should be testing for that these powders are being cut with?
 
Excuse the stupid inquiry, but in terms of the raws purity. Is the remaining percentage (which is not the APi we’re after) thought to be simply inert / degraded TNE? Or are there things that we should be testing for that these powders are being cut with?
Curious also @Photon when you get time bro, shed some wisdom on us please.
 
Excuse the stupid inquiry, but in terms of the raws purity. Is the remaining percentage (which is not the APi we’re after) thought to be simply inert / degraded TNE? Or are there things that we should be testing for that these powders are being cut with?
I think it would require a GCMS to identify whether it’s degraded API or something else. And even then, it’s a “best guess”, but would provide additional insights for sure.
 
Excuse the stupid inquiry, but in terms of the raws purity. Is the remaining percentage (which is not the APi we’re after) thought to be simply inert / degraded TNE? Or are there things that we should be testing for that these powders are being cut with?
I think it would require a GCMS to identify whether it’s degraded API or something else. And even then, it’s a “best guess”, but would provide additional insights for sure.

We don't know.
Theres roughly 4 independent tests of it coming back at 87% but the final results seem to tell a different story.

Despite extensive testing on low purity raws in general, GCMS etc, it hasn't really shown anything. I don't believe GCMS is the way to go for raws. We have raws that look like melted curry come back good via GCMS lol.

There's a few odd lab results lately, OEPs adrol, NEOs dbol and now the TNE, all of which have one thing in common in that they crash easily. I'm wondering if it's simply a case of having to send in a new batch for testing.
 
Glad to hear it’s normal.

I used 6% ba and 60% bb which should be enough solvent to hold it at 120mg/ml but it did end up crashing.

I think there might be something wrong with that test tbh. Crashing at 6/60 with 87mg/ml is..odd to say..

I was looking in this thread and it seems a few others crashed too.

Does anyone want to help send their vial in to test?
(maybe even to AB..)
 
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I think there might be something wrong with that test tbh. Crashing at 6/60 with 87mg/ml is..odd to say..

I was looking in this thread and it seems a few others crashed too.

Does anyone want to help send their vial in to test?
(maybe even to AB..)
Yes, I honestly don’t know how they would be crashing for me and others and be 87 with 6/60. They crashing for friends of mine too. I don’t live in freezing temperatures, but it feels like I do
 
@Ateam2023 asked on my testing thread “how did that happen to the TNE” I honestly don’t know. I did not intentionally make it 13% lower on a raw that is basically free how cheap it is. I over dosed it 20%. To more than account for purity. Based off what I seen with other tests around. So really if anything based off my raw test, this should have came back almost 20mg/mL higher.

Again, like I said. If it’s an issue mail me. And I’m sorry for the miss. Batch 2 will be better.
 
Yes, I honestly don’t know how they would be crashing for me and others and be 87 with 6/60. They crashing for friends of mine too. I don’t live in freezing temperatures, but it feels like I do
mine crash at room temp in 3 diff locations, each over 70 degrees -_-

one location it crashed was in 10 slin pins and i think im just gonna have to call those. cant think of a way to get them back safely

had no idea tne was so sensitive
 
@Ateam2023 asked on my testing thread “how did that happen to the TNE” I honestly don’t know. I did not intentionally make it 13% lower on a raw that is basically free how cheap it is. I over dosed it 20%. To more than account for purity. Based off what I seen with other tests around. So really if anything based off my raw test, this should have came back almost 20mg/mL higher.

Again, like I said. If it’s an issue mail me. And I’m sorry for the miss. Batch 2 will be better.

There's something off with the sample sent for testing imo.
 
@Ateam2023 asked on my testing thread “how did that happen to the TNE” I honestly don’t know. I did not intentionally make it 13% lower on a raw that is basically free how cheap it is. I over dosed it 20%. To more than account for purity. Based off what I seen with other tests around. So really if anything based off my raw test, this should have came back almost 20mg/mL higher.

Again, like I said. If it’s an issue mail me. And I’m sorry for the miss. Batch 2 will be better.
I have no issues, I haven't ordered from you I was just curious if you knew why that happened and by the looks of it there's a lot of other people that are having problems also , maybe it's time to try a different lab to test raws etc? Seems like the " gold standard" for testing has been having more than one mishap.
 
I have no issues, I haven't ordered from you I was just curious if you knew why that happened and by the looks of it there's a lot of other people that are having problems also , maybe it's time to try a different lab to test raws etc? Seems like the " gold standard" for testing has been having more than one mishap.
Wasn’t meaning to imply you having an issue. Was speaking to anyone who ordered

But I was addressing your concern as it might be a common one. On the more visible area.
 
@Ateam2023 asked on my testing thread “how did that happen to the TNE” I honestly don’t know. I did not intentionally make it 13% lower on a raw that is basically free how cheap it is. I over dosed it 20%. To more than account for purity. Based off what I seen with other tests around. So really if anything based off my raw test, this should have came back almost 20mg/mL higher.

Again, like I said. If it’s an issue mail me. And I’m sorry for the miss. Batch 2 will be better.
Imagine if Michelangelo tried to paint the sistine chapel with chinese raws

.........just sayin

It's not like this is some weird shitty underdosed mystery oil and everyone is wondering what else is wrong with it-

The other aspects of your production are high quality. And you tried to test the ingredient to be accurate.

As a craftsperson, its frustrating. But really in the end, it's a high quality product that is still dosed higher than other vendors have out there right now.

Hate to see a man who does good work beat himself up when it's not warranted
 
500mg Test
300mg EQ
25mg Tren week 1-4
50mg Tren week 5-8

First run with Tren and decided to see what low dose can offer. I’d rather slowly titrate up to a tolerable dose instead of jumping head first.
 

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I used .50 ml of the tne in my glute today a hour before deadlift day and it was great. I had a great vibe and energy for the workout.

Someone earlier in the thread said they recommend 2 hours or so before and I second that. It kicked in during my second working set and ran a little bit over my workout energy wise. Shifting that window earlier might work better.

I also have some test cyp from Spyder and it's pipless and smooth. No complaints from me.

I live in a cold place but my tne had no crashing or pip issues. I also warm up all of my shots before with a mug warmer.

I know ghoul mentioned that once something crashes it's more likely to crash unless heated up higher again. Idk though. Just trying to be helpful.

Thanks for the transparency around testing. Slightly under dosed still works for my baby tne doses.
 

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