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Wow. Awesome review brother. And I like your commentary about TNE vs the Anadrol. Very helpful.
Absolutely I've noticed your big into pre's also and I've avoided orals for a while now with the exception on Var. But going inject for typical orals has been a blessing. I know that some argue liver contact and such but I believe it's still milder in relativity to swallowing tabs. Personal opinion.

Dude since you're on Adrol typically as well. Do you deal with lethargy following the workout or am I just an outlier for that side effect, because another bonus to the TNE today was none. Full energy all day.
 
Let me make the argument for you.

Received my pack early this morning. Upon opening it, I noticed about half the vials had crashed during transit. No big deal at all, I didn’t even think twice since a hot plate resolves that immediately. I’m mentioning it purely for transparency, because I won’t be the only one who encounters it. You know where I’m located, and I’m attributing this to the frost front we had during transit.

Using a 29g ½" pin, this draws like water once warmed. I ran 150 mg total, split 75 mg per pec, then waited about 1.5 hours before training. For context, prior to this I was using 100 mg of another vendor’s Adrol, so this is a direct comparison. I’ve always favored TNE because it feels cleaner without sounding like a dumbass. It’s a conscious, noticeable difference that I genuinely believe stands out in comparison.

Post injection, there was a very minor virgin muscle response localized to the injection sites. For added context, my pecs are completely virgin to pinning. Even with that, the response was minimal and fully subsided on its own. At this point, I have nothing to report at the injection sites, no lingering soreness, inflammation, or irritation. I chose pecs intentionally, as I still had some residual irritation from prior Adrol use in the usual injection areas.

For additional context and full transparency, I’m also running from your most recent batch of Test Cypionate at what I’ll jokingly call a “moderate cruise” of 600 mg. That’s been smooth, consistent, and exactly what I expect from quality Tcyp no surprises there.

I ran a thorough back session and immediately noticed an increase in strength potential. It wasn’t subtle, it was obvious and repeatable. Pumps were outstanding, and vascularity was markedly increased. I’m naturally vascular with large, dilated veins, but even my wife commented today asking why they were “pulsing like worms.” It was a noticeable surge with the TNE driving to the gym I realized my forearms already felt full just gripping the steering wheel.

I also observed an immediate rise in blood pressure. My baseline is typically around 115–125 / 60–75. I’m 6'2", generally 270–280 lbs, and currently sitting at ~260 lbs lean, around 10% or slightly under, while running Reta for further transparency. I take BP readings religiously in the morning, post-workout, and evening. Post training I usually sit around 130/75. Today it peaked at 147/84. Because of that, I’ll reduce the dose to a flat 100 mg and reevaluate over the next few days. Not alarming, about 8 hours post I was already back at baseline, but it clearly demonstrates a physiological response.

Anecdotally, this confirms the product is doing exactly what it should. SP5DER, thank you for a high quality product and, more importantly, your customer service. I told you I’d give a thorough review, and I didn’t want to leave a lazy one liner.

Best wishes to you in everything. Now jump in that time machine, get this fucking break over with, I’ve got shit to order. Be easy my friend the road in front of you is paved with gold BTC.
Wow. Thank you so much, very thorough. And yeah, same experience over here with it.

You know my emails always open for your order bro. And thank you again.
 
Absolutely I've noticed your big into pre's also and I've avoided orals for a while now with the exception on Var. But going inject for typical orals has been a blessing. I know that some argue liver contact and such but I believe it's still milder in relativity to swallowing tabs. Personal opinion.

Dude since you're on Adrol typically as well. Do you deal with lethargy following the workout or am I just an outlier for that side effect, because another bonus to the TNE today was none. Full energy all day.
I got the lethargy from oral anadrol but I don’t seem to get it from the injectable. I’ve just starting trying TNE and I do think I prefer it but the anadrol is still fun to throw in there.
 
I got the lethargy from oral anadrol but I don’t seem to get it from the injectable. I’ve just starting trying TNE and I do think I prefer it but the anadrol is still fun to throw in there.
Yeah I think as I age I'm responding different. 100mg Adrol use to be nothing, now it hits me with mild sides every time, lethargy being the biggest. I reduced to 50mg and same, so maybe it's time I avoid and stick with TNE. As I have tears typing this. Haha
 
Yeah I think as I age I'm responding different. 100mg Adrol use to be nothing, now it hits me with mild sides every time, lethargy being the biggest. I reduced to 50mg and same, so maybe it's time I avoid and stick with TNE. As I have tears typing this. Haha
I only use the drol 3 days per week, 4 max. Do you use it daily for several weeks?
 
I only use the drol 3 days per week, 4 max. Do you use it daily for several weeks?
It depends on my dosing. I notice with Adrol if I start with it, I don't notice anything until day 3, so usually 5 days a week if I'm at 50mg for no more than 3 weeks, then I take a minimal break from all for at least 60 days. If I'm at 100mg I run it only on hard days and limited to only a few times. I like to throw it in during a cruise for the mental aspect of not being on a plethora of gear.

The godsend for me has been glutathione in conjunction. My markers on labs remain excellent and within perimeters. The exception being lipids, and I've recently accepted Pitavistatin as a necessary evil.
 
It depends on my dosing. I notice with Adrol if I start with it, I don't notice anything until day 3, so usually 5 days a week if I'm at 50mg for no more than 3 weeks, then I take a minimal break from all for at least 60 days. If I'm at 100mg I run it only on hard days and limited to only a few times. I like to throw it in during a cruise for the mental aspect of not being on a plethora of gear.

The godsend for me has been glutathione in conjunction. My markers on labs remain excellent and within perimeters. The exception being lipids, and I've recently accepted Pitavistatin as a necessary evil.
I have stayed away from oral’s for years due to my liver values and very heavy abuse when i was younger. I just got a bunch of Korean glutathione and am going to give it a go on this next blast. I plan on adding some anavar and winstrol oral suspension the last 4 weeks and see what it does to my levels with the glutathione.
 
I have stayed away from oral’s for years due to my liver values and very heavy abuse when i was younger. I just got a bunch of Korean glutathione and am going to give it a go on this next blast. I plan on adding some anavar and winstrol oral suspension the last 4 weeks and see what it does to my levels with the glutathione.
Hands down, in comparison to every ancillary we use for combating this lifestyle... I can't fathom not utilizing Glutathione. Pull your labs my man, then start Glutathione at minimal 200mg a day. The next labs you'll be blown away, it's that drastic for improvement in liver values, kidney function, and importantly in my experience no more acne ever. Not even the little pop ups when you fluctuate hard. The Korean market for it is stupid cheap.

My recent labs with 50mg Adrol and 70mg Var 5 days a week. I did however push up to 1200mg glut daily.

ALT 17 U/L 7 - 45
AST 23 U/L 11 - 34
BILIRUBIN 0.44 mg/dL 0.30 - 1.20
ALBUMIN 3.8 g/dL 3.3 - 4.6


I've got the full spectrum but you get the idea. Now I'm no expert, and somebody more knowledgeable could chime in if glutathione is giving false readings, but I'm impressed.

Best wishes my man.

Edit: 200mg is a pinch and burn, 1200mg is satanic fire at times. Irritation subsides within a few hours, and I've contemplated IM over Subq but haven't tried it yet.
 
Hands down, in comparison to every ancillary we use for combating this lifestyle... I can't fathom not utilizing Glutathione. Pull your labs my man, then start Glutathione at minimal 200mg a day. The next labs you'll be blown away, it's that drastic for improvement in liver values, kidney function, and importantly in my experience no more acne ever. Not even the little pop ups when you fluctuate hard. The Korean market for it is stupid cheap.

My recent labs with 50mg Adrol and 70mg Var 5 days a week. I did however push up to 1200mg glut daily.

ALT 17 U/L 7 - 45
AST 23 U/L 11 - 34
BILIRUBIN 0.44 mg/dL 0.30 - 1.20
ALBUMIN 3.8 g/dL 3.3 - 4.6


I've got the full spectrum but you get the idea. Now I'm no expert, and somebody more knowledgeable could chime in if glutathione is giving false readings, but I'm impressed.

Best wishes my man.

Edit: 200mg is a pinch and burn, 1200mg is satanic fire at times. Irritation subsides within a few hours, and I've contemplated IM over Subq but haven't tried it yet.
Thanks for this Brother! I will be adding 200mg per day at the start of my blast, looking forward to the results!
 
Hands down, in comparison to every ancillary we use for combating this lifestyle... I can't fathom not utilizing Glutathione. Pull your labs my man, then start Glutathione at minimal 200mg a day. The next labs you'll be blown away, it's that drastic for improvement in liver values, kidney function, and importantly in my experience no more acne ever. Not even the little pop ups when you fluctuate hard. The Korean market for it is stupid cheap.

My recent labs with 50mg Adrol and 70mg Var 5 days a week. I did however push up to 1200mg glut daily.

ALT 17 U/L 7 - 45
AST 23 U/L 11 - 34
BILIRUBIN 0.44 mg/dL 0.30 - 1.20
ALBUMIN 3.8 g/dL 3.3 - 4.6


I've got the full spectrum but you get the idea. Now I'm no expert, and somebody more knowledgeable could chime in if glutathione is giving false readings, but I'm impressed.

Best wishes my man.

Edit: 200mg is a pinch and burn, 1200mg is satanic fire at times. Irritation subsides within a few hours, and I've contemplated IM over Subq but haven't tried it yet.
Running the 1500mg Korean kit and 500mg M/W/F and have used on/off Test Base from PQO, TNE, oral Adrol. Gluta is a staple and ran almost year round. That alongside L-carn and GH.
 
I knew you were big, but damn… not commit war crimes against BMI charts big. All good though, no need to flex quite that hard next time.
Dude genetically I'm smallest of the men in my family. Haha

Dad was 6'5, brother 6'4, I have a grandmother at 6'0ish. I've recently been pushing my brother into this lifestyle and he's adapted to the health side so far. But this guy's potential to blow me away is obvious.

Much love killa.
 
I’m behind but as of next week, I will be, no longer
It has to be the kids. Anyone who's been around for more than a week understands that it can take several days to get packs out, for a multitude of reasons including those unrelated to there just not being enough hours in the day to get it all out. The last thing we'd want any vendor to do is rush the packaging step. I've seen vendors get sloppy with their packaging and that was the last order I ever placed with them. Packaging security is one of the most important pieces of OPSEC for vendor and customer.

TLDR Leave the man the fuck alone you will get your pack. Any "delays" are very often for your own good, if you can read between the lines.
 
Let me make the argument for you.

Received my pack early this morning. Upon opening it, I noticed about half the vials had crashed during transit. No big deal at all, I didn’t even think twice since a hot plate resolves that immediately. I’m mentioning it purely for transparency, because I won’t be the only one who encounters it. You know where I’m located, and I’m attributing this to the frost front we had during transit.

Using a 29g ½" pin, this draws like water once warmed. I ran 150 mg total, split 75 mg per pec, then waited about 1.5 hours before training. For context, prior to this I was using 100 mg of another vendor’s Adrol, so this is a direct comparison. I’ve always favored TNE because it feels cleaner without sounding like a dumbass. It’s a conscious, noticeable difference that I genuinely believe stands out in comparison.

Post injection, there was a very minor virgin muscle response localized to the injection sites. For added context, my pecs are completely virgin to pinning. Even with that, the response was minimal and fully subsided on its own. At this point, I have nothing to report at the injection sites, no lingering soreness, inflammation, or irritation. I chose pecs intentionally, as I still had some residual irritation from prior Adrol use in the usual injection areas.

For additional context and full transparency, I’m also running from your most recent batch of Test Cypionate at what I’ll jokingly call a “moderate cruise” of 600 mg. That’s been smooth, consistent, and exactly what I expect from quality Tcyp no surprises there.

I ran a thorough back session and immediately noticed an increase in strength potential. It wasn’t subtle, it was obvious and repeatable. Pumps were outstanding, and vascularity was markedly increased. I’m naturally vascular with large, dilated veins, but even my wife commented today asking why they were “pulsing like worms.” It was a noticeable surge with the TNE driving to the gym I realized my forearms already felt full just gripping the steering wheel.

I also observed an immediate rise in blood pressure. My baseline is typically around 115–125 / 60–75. I’m 6'2", generally 270–280 lbs, and currently sitting at ~260 lbs lean, around 10% or slightly under, while running Reta for further transparency. I take BP readings religiously in the morning, post-workout, and evening. Post training I usually sit around 130/75. Today it peaked at 147/84. Because of that, I’ll reduce the dose to a flat 100 mg and reevaluate over the next few days. Not alarming, about 8 hours post I was already back at baseline, but it clearly demonstrates a physiological response.

Anecdotally, this confirms the product is doing exactly what it should. SP5DER, thank you for a high quality product and, more importantly, your customer service. I told you I’d give a thorough review, and I didn’t want to leave a lazy one liner.

Best wishes to you in everything. Now jump in that time machine, get this fucking break over with, I’ve got shit to order. Be easy my friend the road in front of you is paved with gold BTC.



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We don’t want to see vials, we want to see 6’2 260 at 10%?!
 
Same weight out here but at 5'10 ~20% bf

Good to see other large lads on these threads
That's about where I started my cut last summer - i've since wasted away to the high 220's, but doesn't stop people coming up to me telling me how "big" i got. I don't think I'll ever get back up there at my old age. Prob won't push beyond 235, 240 max. I want to keep the BF 12% or less year round. Suboptimal for size and strength but I'm getting my AARP card soon enough so those days are long gone (at least for me).
 
Same weight out here but at 5'10 ~20% bf

Good to see other large lads on these threads
Yeah bro we're in a league of our own. I looked at your pic, you get the 20% down and you'll be a straight animal. In that pic you do look lesser than that though.

At my Pinnacle I was 285lb biggest I've ever been, but chunky big, I had abs but fluffy at the surface. Extremely stout would best describe. Over the last decade I've focused on a diet primarily consistent with fish, lean beef, and turkey. My lipids are hereditary so I'm always concerned.

Reta is to thank for the recent BF drop. But it's also not enjoyable. Reta is incredible to me, I don't resent food but I find eating is satisfied after a few bites rather than cleaning the plate historically. Haha

I feel best around 15% and I'm past the age of impressing anyone besides myself. My biggest enemy is me. But where I'm sitting now I'm not overly large, while still extremely athletic.

We don’t want to see vials, we want to see 6’2 260 at 10%?!
Bro I would love to, but I work in an environment where this is frowned upon, and I have to many identifying features. I hope you understand. I've got no reason to BS anyone, I only do this to look good naked. My wife is slamming and I'm trying to keep her around.

I'll make you a deal though, soon enough I'll be retired and could care less. At that time I'm wanting to create a thread for my cycle with everything included. Pics, food, regimen, PEDs, all of it.

I'll leave you with this... Mom of 3, 39 years old. Keep the comments respectful. Haha
She's my motivating factor always.

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