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[danny91t]

That's about where I started my cut last summer - i've since wasted away to the high 220's, but doesn't stop people coming up to me telling me how "big" i got. I don't think I'll ever get back up there at my old age. Prob won't push beyond 235, 240 max. I want to keep the BF 12% or less year round. Suboptimal for size and strength but I'm getting my AARP card soon enough so those days are long gone (at least for me).

Yeah bro we're in a league of our own. I looked at your pic, you get the 20% down and you'll be a straight animal. In that pic you do look lesser than that though.

At my Pinnacle I was 285lb biggest I've ever been, but chunky big, I had abs but fluffy at the surface. Extremely stout would best describe. Over the last decade I've focused on a diet primarily consistent with fish, lean beef, and turkey. My lipids are hereditary so I'm always concerned.

Reta is to thank for the recent BF drop. But it's also not enjoyable. Reta is incredible to me, I don't resent food but I find eating is satisfied after a few bites rather than cleaning the plate historically. Haha

I feel best around 15% and I'm past the age of impressing anyone besides myself. My biggest enemy is me. But where I'm sitting now I'm not overly large, while still extremely athletic.

The lion doesnt concern himself with aeathetics only lifting heavy as shit. I train and compete in strongman at a higher level I dont bodybuild so I dont think much about that. A lil extra weight helps with leverage in this sport

I'll tell you this though, I am currently working on it cutting down to 15% while cruising for funsies and upping the Reta dose. Hope my strength doesnt take a hit

 

[Venom Lab]

It has to be the kids. Anyone who's been around for more than a week understands that it can take several days to get packs out, for a multitude of reasons including those unrelated to there just not being enough hours in the day to get it all out. The last thing we'd want any vendor to do is rush the packaging step. I've seen vendors get sloppy with their packaging and that was the last order I ever placed with them. Packaging security is one of the most important pieces of OPSEC for vendor and customer.

TLDR Leave the man the fuck alone you will get your pack. Any "delays" are very often for your own good, if you can read between the lines.

Praise the Lord, if you wanna come over our side of the world to teach some wiseness it would be really appreciated.

 

[hard_gains]

Yeah bro we're in a league of our own. I looked at your pic, you get the 20% down and you'll be a straight animal. In that pic you do look lesser than that though.

At my Pinnacle I was 285lb biggest I've ever been, but chunky big, I had abs but fluffy at the surface. Extremely stout would best describe. Over the last decade I've focused on a diet primarily consistent with fish, lean beef, and turkey. My lipids are hereditary so I'm always concerned.

Reta is to thank for the recent BF drop. But it's also not enjoyable. Reta is incredible to me, I don't resent food but I find eating is satisfied after a few bites rather than cleaning the plate historically. Haha

I feel best around 15% and I'm past the age of impressing anyone besides myself. My biggest enemy is me. But where I'm sitting now I'm not overly large, while still extremely athletic.


Bro I would love to, but I work in an environment where this is frowned upon, and I have to many identifying features. I hope you understand. I've got no reason to BS anyone, I only do this to look good naked. My wife is slamming and I'm trying to keep her around.

I'll make you a deal though, soon enough I'll be retired and could care less. At that time I'm wanting to create a thread for my cycle with everything included. Pics, food, regimen, PEDs, all of it.

I'll leave you with this... Mom of 3, 39 years old. Keep the comments respectful. Haha
She's my motivating factor always.

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She's a hottie. What do you mean soon enough you'll be retired? How old are you and when you retiring?

 

[RockyP]

Praise the Lord, if you wanna come over our side of the world to teach some wiseness it would be really appreciated.

If I can convince my wife to move to Poland you'll be one of the first to know.

 

[BALLISTIC]

She's a hottie. What do you mean soon enough you'll be retired? How old are you and when you retiring?

I'll be 42, I'm still going to work just not in this arena. I've been doing this type of work since I was 18. Hopefully by the end of this year I'll make my final decision. I never inherited anything or got a free ride. I've built my life from the ground up. I did have guidance in early investing and I'd recommend that to anyone. I know nothing about it, but I turn my money over choose the risk factors, and sit back.

Edit: oh and thanks man she knows it humbly. Just got bolt ons added for Christmas so another return on investment. Haha

 

[newguy2]

Sometimes dudes ask for the wildest compounds while rocking a straight mid physique and really think that’s the missing piece. Like yeah bro, Ment and Halo are gonna save you.

Reality check: most people here just need testosterone. Period. Test alone already does 90% of the work if you actually train and eat. Sure, for fun you can sprinkle in EQ, Deca, Mast, even Tren if you’re feeling spicy.

But when people start begging for Ment, Halo, Superdrol and all that nuclear shit, it’s just overthinking. Especially when 99% of the forum are regular gym goers. You look at them and wouldn’t even guess they’re on gear.

Moral of the story: Test is king. Everything else is just extra sauce.

I disagree, I don't think that point is that thru think said compound with push things one that edge, I think folks just like to experiment and want something they can "feel". Hence the huge interest lately in injectable pwo. Let's be honest a good percentage of people in this space have a background in rec drugs/various addictions.

Plus the added curiosity and fomo as these things are so often discussed.

That said it would clearly be a poor business decision for sp5der to make something so rare when he has such a small selection to begin with

 

[RockyP]

I disagree, I don't think that point is that thru think said compound with push things one that edge, I think folks just like to experiment and want something they can "feel". Hence the huge interest lately in injectable pwo. Let's be honest a good percentage of people in this space have a background in rec drugs/various addictions.

Plus the added curiosity and fomo as these things are so often discussed.

That said it would clearly be a poor business decision for sp5der to make something so rare when he has such a small selection to begin with

The injectable PWO's are also popular because the raws are available and not insanely expensive. TNE / Test Suspension has been around a long time - we can debate the differences between the 2. Injectable SD seems to be a bit of a fad. Injectable Winny has always been around but it's god awful to pin. The others I think are part fad / novelty, and part personal preference. If you're using something like Anadrol to Bulk but it kills your appetite in a week, the injectable version is quite advantageous. Of course, one could just add more test / anabolics to the main cycle. I agree 100% that many of us just like something new to tinker around with. I'm guilty as charged on that one. I came to the injectable orals after a long diet looking for a little extra edge to push through big back and legs sessions, and they've done that job very well. But if I were just looking to gain mass, I'd probably just run higher anabolics and occasional TNE as a PWO when I thought I needed it.

One thing is for certain, we are spoiled to have these options.

 

[hard_gains]

I'll be 42, I'm still going to work just not in this arena. I've been doing this type of work since I was 18. Hopefully by the end of this year I'll make my final decision. I never inherited anything or got a free ride. I've built my life from the ground up. I did have guidance in early investing and I'd recommend that to anyone. I know nothing about it, but I turn my money over choose the risk factors, and sit back.

Edit: oh and thanks man she knows it humbly. Just got bolt ons added for Christmas so another return on investment. Haha

Retired at 42? Man that would be the life. I'm 36 and same boat. Didn't had dick growing up. Luckily I've started to figure some shit out especially in investing. Still not were I want to be financially but I'm living pretty well but constantly pretending I'm broke all the time.

 

[sp5der]

I gotta get like u guys and try to retire in like 2-3 years. Could save so much if I didn’t buy my girl a new purse to review for her 8 tick tock followers every week

 

[Elektrobot]

*maybe the best use case for DNP

Who want's t-shirts that say "DNP Season"

 

[ETliens]

Hands down, in comparison to every ancillary we use for combating this lifestyle... I can't fathom not utilizing Glutathione. Pull your labs my man, then start Glutathione at minimal 200mg a day. The next labs you'll be blown away, it's that drastic for improvement in liver values, kidney function, and importantly in my experience no more acne ever. Not even the little pop ups when you fluctuate hard. The Korean market for it is stupid cheap.

My recent labs with 50mg Adrol and 70mg Var 5 days a week. I did however push up to 1200mg glut daily.

ALT 17 U/L 7 - 45
AST 23 U/L 11 - 34
BILIRUBIN 0.44 mg/dL 0.30 - 1.20
ALBUMIN 3.8 g/dL 3.3 - 4.6


I've got the full spectrum but you get the idea. Now I'm no expert, and somebody more knowledgeable could chime in if glutathione is giving false readings, but I'm impressed.

Best wishes my man.

Edit: 200mg is a pinch and burn, 1200mg is satanic fire at times. Irritation subsides within a few hours, and I've contemplated IM over Subq but haven't tried it yet.

That’s awesome to hear. After it was recommended by my coach I ordered five kits from Korea. Using 1200mg weekly. So far, no burn with 300mg each.

 

[BALLISTIC]

I gotta get like u guys and try to retire in like 2-3 years. Could save so much if I didn’t buy my girl a new purse to review for her 8 tick tock followers every week

Dude the Mrs got new gummy bear tits, after I was trying to surprise her with a new upgraded ring. Haha

I didn't see that coming. Still not complaining.

I don't know your life and not asking. Respect. But I'm sure you work on top of this. The end game is staying in only as long as you need. Every penny you can spare put it away. Invest. Pennies count. The biggest trick for me was not buying frivolous things. It sounds stupid but for instance, this is how micro I go.... My Amazon subscriptions run for 3 months, then I go through and cancel them, they offer me a significant discount for the next 3 months. After that I wait 3 months and repeat this. Fuck Bezos.

Although I don't want to see you go anywhere for at least the next 10 years.

 

[BALLISTIC]

Retired at 42? Man that would be the life. I'm 36 and same boat. Didn't had dick growing up. Luckily I've started to figure some shit out especially in investing. Still not were I want to be financially but I'm living pretty well but constantly pretending I'm broke all the time.

You know the pain man, honestly kids changed my life. They're the greatest thing to happen to me. I'm not going to get to enjoy most the things I'm saving for. But I hope they're given a huge headstart. I don't want them to have to repeat my cycle from the ground up.

 

[AllbrandNew]

Edit: 200mg is a pinch and burn, 1200mg is satanic fire at times. Irritation subsides within a few hours, and I've contemplated IM over Subq but haven't tried it yet.

Is that on the Korean gluta? I started running it preemptively when I was trying orals and some PWO injectables. First time I recon'd it at 300mg/ml and it was 80% ok with only some temp mild discomfort. Next vials were 200mg/ml and just a subq lump for an hour or so, no other reaction at all. All subq. I know everyone is different but I had the burn with a different source at 200mg/ml but nada with the Korean stuff, FWIW.

Sitting on the Sp5der TNE until I'm back at it, but excited to run it for sure.

 

[Athleticfreak]

Yeah bro we're in a league of our own. I looked at your pic, you get the 20% down and you'll be a straight animal. In that pic you do look lesser than that though.

At my Pinnacle I was 285lb biggest I've ever been, but chunky big, I had abs but fluffy at the surface. Extremely stout would best describe. Over the last decade I've focused on a diet primarily consistent with fish, lean beef, and turkey. My lipids are hereditary so I'm always concerned.

Reta is to thank for the recent BF drop. But it's also not enjoyable. Reta is incredible to me, I don't resent food but I find eating is satisfied after a few bites rather than cleaning the plate historically. Haha

I feel best around 15% and I'm past the age of impressing anyone besides myself. My biggest enemy is me. But where I'm sitting now I'm not overly large, while still extremely athletic.


Bro I would love to, but I work in an environment where this is frowned upon, and I have to many identifying features. I hope you understand. I've got no reason to BS anyone, I only do this to look good naked. My wife is slamming and I'm trying to keep her around.

I'll make you a deal though, soon enough I'll be retired and could care less. At that time I'm wanting to create a thread for my cycle with everything included. Pics, food, regimen, PEDs, all of it.

I'll leave you with this... Mom of 3, 39 years old. Keep the comments respectful. Haha
She's my motivating factor always.

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All good brother. Keep up the hard work and yes. you have a hot misses !!

 

[sp5der]

Dude the Mrs got new gummy bear tits, after I was trying to surprise her with a new upgraded ring. Haha

I didn't see that coming. Still not complaining.

I don't know your life and not asking. Respect. But I'm sure you work on top of this. The end game is staying in only as long as you need. Every penny you can spare put it away. Invest. Pennies count. The biggest trick for me was not buying frivolous things. It sounds stupid but for instance, this is how micro I go.... My Amazon subscriptions run for 3 months, then I go through and cancel them, they offer me a significant discount for the next 3 months. After that I wait 3 months and repeat this. Fuck Bezos.

Although I don't want to see you go anywhere for at least the next 10 years.

Yeah I spend half like I got 50 years left and half like I got 50 days left

But yeah I’d never be around 10 years. Would need multiple rebrands

Just not worth it tbh. This is kinda cool especially only doing it for a few months and seeing people I’ve respected seeing me and saying I’m doing something right. But more than that, it’s not really. There’s other things in this world that make so much more.

 

[BALLISTIC]

Is that on the Korean gluta? I started running it preemptively when I was trying orals and some PWO injectables. First time I recon'd it at 300mg/ml and it was 80% ok with only some temp mild discomfort. Next vials were 200mg/ml and just a subq lump for an hour or so, no other reaction at all. All subq. I know everyone is different but I had the burn with a different source at 200mg/ml but nada with the Korean stuff, FWIW.

Sitting on the Sp5der TNE until I'm back at it, but excited to run it for sure.

Yes, but I don't dilute much, I was recently taking 1200mg daily. For it to be overly comfortable it would be 6ml at 200mg/ml which isn't uncomfortable. For 1200mg I was diluting with 1.5ml bac so it's hot. This was subq to the inner thigh. But pip doesn't bother me with any compound unless it hinders my ability to move. Because it's water based once the burn subsides I'm solid.

Yeah I spend half like I got 50 years left and half like I got 50 days left

But yeah I’d never be around 10 years. Would need multiple rebrands

Just not worth it tbh. This is kinda cool especially only doing it for a few months and seeing people I’ve respected seeing me and saying I’m doing something right. But more than that, it’s not really. There’s other things in this world that make so much more.

Yeah I agree, if you're gone tomorrow what was it all for? I like purchasing things for others, family....in old age I'm understanding far more of what my elders tried to impression at a younger age.

Well I wish you the best eventually no matter what you do. Your a stand up guy in my book. If you stick around at least a year or two I'll continue contributing to your bigger plans.

Thanks again Sp5der for your time and conversations.

 

[AlexDavis43]

Yes, but I don't dilute much, I was recently taking 1200mg daily. For it to be overly comfortable it would be 6ml at 200mg/ml which isn't uncomfortable. For 1200mg I was diluting with 1.5ml bac so it's hot. This was subq to the inner thigh. But pip doesn't bother me with any compound unless it hinders my ability to move. Because it's water based once the burn subsides I'm solid.


Yeah I agree, if you're gone tomorrow what was it all for? I like purchasing things for others, family....in old age I'm understanding far more of what my elders tried to impression at a younger age.

Well I wish you the best eventually no matter what you do. Your a stand up guy in my book. If you stick around at least a year or two I'll continue contributing to your bigger plans.

Thanks again Sp5der for your time and conversations.

get a room

 

[BALLISTIC]

get a room

There's room for 3

 

[crispybacon!]

Hands down, in comparison to every ancillary we use for combating this lifestyle... I can't fathom not utilizing Glutathione. Pull your labs my man, then start Glutathione at minimal 200mg a day. The next labs you'll be blown away, it's that drastic for improvement in liver values, kidney function, and importantly in my experience no more acne ever. Not even the little pop ups when you fluctuate hard. The Korean market for it is stupid cheap.

My recent labs with 50mg Adrol and 70mg Var 5 days a week. I did however push up to 1200mg glut daily.

ALT 17 U/L 7 - 45
AST 23 U/L 11 - 34
BILIRUBIN 0.44 mg/dL 0.30 - 1.20
ALBUMIN 3.8 g/dL 3.3 - 4.6


I've got the full spectrum but you get the idea. Now I'm no expert, and somebody more knowledgeable could chime in if glutathione is giving false readings, but I'm impressed.

Best wishes my man.

Edit: 200mg is a pinch and burn, 1200mg is satanic fire at times. Irritation subsides within a few hours, and I've contemplated IM over Subq but haven't tried it yet.

I add .5ml 2% lidocaine when reconstituting my Korean gluta and that takes some of the sting away. Still get a lump though.