Russia begins invasion of Ukraine

[hometeam]

Israeli intelligence says Ukraine has lost soldiers at a rate of 7 to 1.

This was fabricated in a Russian troll factory:
A piece of disinformation is being promoted in social networks, claiming that the Turkish media outlet, Hurseda Haber, published exclusive information about military casualties as a result of Russia’s aggression against Ukraine ostensibly based on anonymous data from Israeli intelligence. According to the claim which was disseminated across the world and was also featured on a Rustavi 2 TV programme in Georgia apart from appearing in social networks, Russia has lost only 18,480 troops in Ukraine since 24 February 2022 whilst Ukraine’s losses are 157,000. In addition, hostilities in Ukraine claimed the lives of more than 2,000 soldiers and NATO instructors according to the disinformation.

In fact, reports that Mossad published such statistics or that these reports were given to the aforementioned Turkish media outlet are not based on any factual evidence or data.

The information provided by the Turkish media, which was later used by different media outlets or individuals to circulate the same information, is not confirmed by any source.

Of note is that similar information, disseminated by the Russian Market (identified as a citizen-journalist) account on Twitter, garnered mass responses.

The publication surpassed 12 million views in a day and Elon Musk himself, owner of Twitter and a famous businessman, made some comments. Mr Musk initially left a comment in response to the publication that it was a “tragic loss of life,” although he soon after made another comment, calling on Twitter’s relevant service to rectify the numbers in the publication.

Afterwards, Twitter made a comment in the publication, containing all relevant links, to say that the information about the number of deaths in the Ukrainian armed forces was not true as well as the information about killing NATO troops and instructors in Ukraine was also a lie.

Disinformation: “According to the data of Israeli intelligence, Russia killed 157,000 Ukrainian troops and over 1,500 NATO military personnel in Ukraine.” | Factcheck.ge

A piece of disinformation is being promoted in social networks, claiming that the Turkish media outlet, Hurseda Haber, published exclusive information...

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[hometeam]

So, again we've got leaked classified documents someone is in jail for showing estimates of Ukrainian casualties nowhere near what you claim. And we've got the Russian head of Wagner saying Ukraine has 200k-400k troops for the upcoming offensive.

War in Ukraine Wagner says kyiv has assembled more than 200,000 men for counteroffensive News

The head of the Wagner group, Yevgeny Prigozhin, said on Sunday that Ukraine has assembled more than 200,000 troops for its imminent counteroffensive against Russian News

www.dailynewsen.com

More than twice as many Russian troops as Ukrainians have been killed in Putin's war, leaked estimates show

A Pentagon official said the leaked documents circulating on social media "appear to contain sensitive and highly classified material."

www.businessinsider.com

@Hughinn you've been saying for months Ukraine is running out of troops and our boys are next. What kind of a dick spreads false information about their country's ally losing a war?

Are you just that gullible you fell for Russian lies? Or are you a piece of shit? That question will be answered by how you proceed from here now that you know the truth. The gullible person would be happy now that they don't have to be scared or scare others.

 

[Hughinn]

So, again we've got leaked classified documents someone is in jail for

Nothing new here.

Julian assange is in jail for telling the truth about the lies Washington peddled in Iraq, Afghanistan, Yugoslavia and Syria

showing estimates of Ukrainian casualties nowhere near what you claim. And we've got the Russian head of Wagner saying Ukraine has 200k-400k troops for the upcoming offensive.

Fact is, the genuine ukranian soldiers and best fighting men are dead or wounded and ineffective.

Resurrection of a corpse is not a rejuvenation of the ukranian army.

That army has been destroyed

And your propoganda piece is not a classified document. It's a propoganda piece.

I haven't seen the actual documents, neither have you

War in Ukraine Wagner says kyiv has assembled more than 200,000 men for counteroffensive News

The head of the Wagner group, Yevgeny Prigozhin, said on Sunday that Ukraine has assembled more than 200,000 troops for its imminent counteroffensive against Russian News

www.dailynewsen.com

More than twice as many Russian troops as Ukrainians have been killed in Putin's war, leaked estimates show

A Pentagon official said the leaked documents circulating on social media "appear to contain sensitive and highly classified material."

www.businessinsider.com

@Hughinn you've been saying for months Ukraine is running out of troops and our boys are next. What kind of a dick spreads false information about their country's ally losing a war?

Ukraine is a corrupt Eastern European ogliarchy that bribed Joe Biden.

Not an ally of the American people

Are you just that gullible you fell for Russian lies? Or are you a piece of shit? That question will be answered by how you proceed from here now that you know the truth. The gullible person would be happy now that they don't have to be scared or scare others.

Lmfao

You just keep on copying and pasting propoganda bullshit.

All those same 'experts'you quote denying the ukranian losses, are from the same small circle of people that lied about Hunter's laptop being "Russian disinformation". And told us all for twenty years that building "democracy in Afghanistan was a success" and that Iraq had "weapons of mass destruction".

All of it was lies.

Gullible, is an idiot that would blindly believe and support anything those people say.

Bakshi was wrong. Washington is lying, like usual and Ukraine is going to lose.

None of your bullshit changes any of that

 

[hometeam]

Lmfao

You just keep on copying and pasting propoganda bullshit.

All those same 'experts'you quote denying the ukranian losses, are from the same small circle of people that lied about Hunter's laptop being "Russian disinformation". And told us all for twenty years that building "democracy in Afghanistan was a success" and that Iraq had "weapons of mass destruction".

All of it was lies.

Gullible, is an idiot that would blindly believe and support anything those people say.

Bakshi was wrong. Washington is lying, like usual and Ukraine is going to lose.

None of your bullshit changes any of that

I tried to give you the benefit of the doubt that you were just gullible and mistakenly put your trust in extremist news sources with an agenda. But your continuing of this charade means you are deliberately trying to deceive and scare people about America and her allies and the war. That means you are a piece of shit. No other conclusion can be reached.

"Except the (Ukrainians are) running out of soldiers.
Washington cannot get another half million rural American white boys to send off to slaughter."
"And Washington? Well, they're running out of Ukranian bodies. Now the arklatex and Appalachian American people are not going to produce another 100k white country boys to go enforce their demands on an unwilling world anymore."
"Then Washington will have to send American troops to die for their money laundering operation or else try to convince European countries to enter the war."
"Washington is running out of Ukranians, so who's next on thier expandables list ass wipe?"
"He's perfectly willing to spend the lives of working class Ukrainian people to advance the interests of Washington DC/NATO. He's also perfectly willing to expend the lives of the "deplorable" Americans he hates to get what benifits him."
"And there's no way Joe Biden is going to send 50k, 60k, 200k American soldiers off to die in the meat grinder of Ukraine.
Washingtons entire military probably couldn't produce 75k combat prepared infantry soldiers across it's entire armed forces.
It's been chasing around little brown men wearing bed sheets and riding camels for the past thirty years."
- @Hughinn

You are so angry about the last election you've become a piece of shit.

"But I know enough about them, and Joe Biden to tell them all to kiss my fuckin ass. As I'd rather cut their necks than shake their hands.
Because Joe Biden doesn't get to decide where I live, what I believe and where my grandchildren will die. I won't bow before the idols of wokeness and empire"
"Joe Biden and the DNC need a Pearl harbor, and they just might stage one"
"This shit is beyond ridiculous at this point. Joe Biden is a fuckin moron. Anybody still supporting him is a brainless, witless fuckin idiot. "
"Joe Biden is far more likely to be thrown out of office for this mess than Putin, and before it's all over, he just might"
"Who here thinks for one second any of the cowards in our current administration would stay in Washington while it was shelled?
Joe Biden would certainly be in a bunker somewhere eating smashed peas and shitting himself in a diaper."
"the lying corrupt bastard Joe Biden would have to admit his own fault in this situation and he won't do that. "
"Washington wants to control the world. And not in a peaceful way, but like a crooked cop controls a poor neighborhood. "
"Joe Biden is a threat to our lives and liberties"
- @Hughinn

 

[Hughinn]

I tried to give you the benefit of the doubt that you were just gullible and mistakenly put your trust in extremist news sources with an agenda. But your continuing of this charade means you are deliberately trying to deceive and scare people about America and her allies and the war. That means you are a piece of shit. No other conclusion can be reached.

"Except the (Ukrainians are) running out of soldiers.
Washington cannot get another half million rural American white boys to send off to slaughter."
"And Washington? Well, they're running out of Ukranian bodies. Now the arklatex and Appalachian American people are not going to produce another 100k white country boys to go enforce their demands on an unwilling world anymore."
"Then Washington will have to send American troops to die for their money laundering operation or else try to convince European countries to enter the war."
"Washington is running out of Ukranians, so who's next on thier expandables list ass wipe?"
"He's perfectly willing to spend the lives of working class Ukrainian people to advance the interests of Washington DC/NATO. He's also perfectly willing to expend the lives of the "deplorable" Americans he hates to get what benifits him."
"And there's no way Joe Biden is going to send 50k, 60k, 200k American soldiers off to die in the meat grinder of Ukraine.
Washingtons entire military probably couldn't produce 75k combat prepared infantry soldiers across it's entire armed forces.
It's been chasing around little brown men wearing bed sheets and riding camels for the past thirty years."
- @Hughinn

You are so angry about the last election you've become a piece of shit.

"But I know enough about them, and Joe Biden to tell them all to kiss my fuckin ass. As I'd rather cut their necks than shake their hands.
Because Joe Biden doesn't get to decide where I live, what I believe and where my grandchildren will die. I won't bow before the idols of wokeness and empire"
"Joe Biden and the DNC need a Pearl harbor, and they just might stage one"
"This shit is beyond ridiculous at this point. Joe Biden is a fuckin moron. Anybody still supporting him is a brainless, witless fuckin idiot. "
"Joe Biden is far more likely to be thrown out of office for this mess than Putin, and before it's all over, he just might"
"Who here thinks for one second any of the cowards in our current administration would stay in Washington while it was shelled?
Joe Biden would certainly be in a bunker somewhere eating smashed peas and shitting himself in a diaper."
"the lying corrupt bastard Joe Biden would have to admit his own fault in this situation and he won't do that. "
"Washington wants to control the world. And not in a peaceful way, but like a crooked cop controls a poor neighborhood. "
"Joe Biden is a threat to our lives and liberties"
- @Hughinn

In other words, you've been talking bullshit and posting propoganda that's totally horseshit.

You've been caught, and now you're mad lmfao.

Looks like Bakshi was full of shit after all


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[Hughinn]

Everything you've said is bullshit.
All of it.

Lmfao

 

[hometeam]

Everything you've said is bullshit.
All of it.

Lmfao

There is no source for this 7 to 1 kill ratio lie. It was made up and posted on Twitter with no source to back it up.

Disinformation: “According to the data of Israeli intelligence, Russia killed 157,000 Ukrainian troops and over 1,500 NATO military personnel in Ukraine.” | Factcheck.ge

A piece of disinformation is being promoted in social networks, claiming that the Turkish media outlet, Hurseda Haber, published exclusive information...

factcheck.ge

What kind of dick spreads Russian lies and propaganda about their country's allies losing a war?

 

[hometeam]

View: https://twitter.com/Judgenap/status/1646212088732303360?t=YuBJx88-w62ArMNOu8ZRkA&s=19

This guy in the third video is a convicted felon who spent 2 years in prison for pedophile sex crimes.

 

[Hughinn]

There is no source for this 7 to 1 kill ratio lie. It was made up and posted on Twitter with no source to back it up.

Again, your spewing bullshit.

The source is supposed to be the leaked documents.

I haven't personally seen them, and neither have you.

Disinformation: “According to the data of Israeli intelligence, Russia killed 157,000 Ukrainian troops and over 1,500 NATO military personnel in Ukraine.” | Factcheck.ge

A piece of disinformation is being promoted in social networks, claiming that the Turkish media outlet, Hurseda Haber, published exclusive information...

factcheck.ge

The guy in your third video is a convicted felon who spent 2 years in prison for pedophile sex crimes.

I don't know him. But it doesn't mean he's not telling the truth.

What kind of dick spreads Russian lies and propaganda about their country's allies losing a war?

A dick that wants the truth.

No bullshit lies and propaganda. Which is literally all you've got

I'm not inclined to believe much of anything from the Washington press pool. They've lied more often than not.

Any idiot like you that takes whatever they say as the truth is gullible

 

[hometeam]

The source is supposed to be the leaked documents.

According to Reuters:
"One U.S. document posted on Russian Telegram channels had the casualty figures crudely altered to reduce Russian casualties and increase Ukrainian casualties. Reuters has seen two versions of the same document with one clearly altered."

Ukraine war, already with up to 354,000 casualties, likely to last past 2023 - U.S. documents

As many as 354,000 Russian and Ukrainian soldiers have been killed or injured in the Ukraine war which is grinding towards a protracted conflict that may last well beyond 2023, according to a trove of purported U.S. intelligence documents posted online.

www.reuters.com

The altered version "lists 16,000-17,500 Russian casualties and up to 71,000 Ukrainian casualties. "

U.S. reviewing whether Ukraine war documents were leaked

The Defense Department and the Justice Department are reviewing a handful of documents that were released on several social media sites and appear to detail U.S. and NATO aid to Ukraine, but may have been altered or used as part of a misinformation campaign.

www.cnbc.com

Now, the propagandist with an agenda would say the altered one is the true one. But there's no way Russia has only taken 16k casualties. We have pictures of 10,000 pieces of Russian equipment destroyed that had several people inside them:

Attack On Europe: Documenting Russian Equipment Losses During The Russian Invasion Of Ukraine

www.oryxspioenkop.com

And General Milley has said both Russia and Ukraine have taken over 100,000:

Top US general says Ukraine war has become an 'absolute catastrophe' for Russia, estimating it's suffered 'significantly well over' 100,000 casualties

"This is a very, very bloody war, and there's significant casualties on both sides," Milley said, while urging Putin to end the fighting.

www.businessinsider.com

 

[Hughinn]

According to Reuters:
"One U.S. document posted on Russian Telegram channels had the casualty figures crudely altered to reduce Russian casualties and increase Ukrainian casualties. Reuters has seen two versions of the same document with one clearly altered."

Ukraine war, already with up to 354,000 casualties, likely to last past 2023 - U.S. documents

As many as 354,000 Russian and Ukrainian soldiers have been killed or injured in the Ukraine war which is grinding towards a protracted conflict that may last well beyond 2023, according to a trove of purported U.S. intelligence documents posted online.

www.reuters.com

The altered version "lists 16,000-17,500 Russian casualties and up to 71,000 Ukrainian casualties. "

U.S. reviewing whether Ukraine war documents were leaked

The Defense Department and the Justice Department are reviewing a handful of documents that were released on several social media sites and appear to detail U.S. and NATO aid to Ukraine, but may have been altered or used as part of a misinformation campaign.

www.cnbc.com

Now, the propagandist with an agenda would say the altered one is the true one. But there's no way Russia has only taken 16k casualties. We have pictures of 10,000 pieces of Russian equipment destroyed that had several people inside them:

Attack On Europe: Documenting Russian Equipment Losses During The Russian Invasion Of Ukraine

www.oryxspioenkop.com

And General Milley has said both Russia and Ukraine have taken over 100,000:

Top US general says Ukraine war has become an 'absolute catastrophe' for Russia, estimating it's suffered 'significantly well over' 100,000 casualties

"This is a very, very bloody war, and there's significant casualties on both sides," Milley said, while urging Putin to end the fighting.

www.businessinsider.com

In other words, everyone is lying.

And it's just fukkin hilarious that you quote that Washington DC establishment idiot general milley as proof of anything.

He's a known liar and spreader of bullshit. The guy told us the Afghan government could fight the Taliban ffs. How stupid can you get?

In other news, the fleecing of Ukraine is being set up as ship sinks



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[Hughinn]

It's sad, this is playing out exactly like I told you it would.

Russia will take the parts of Ukraine it wants with support from the local population.

Washington will sell off the rest, take the money and run.

The ukranian people will be working in the fields and cleaning the streets they used to own for wage earning servitude from now on.

I tried to tell you.

But you're an ignorant POS with stars in his eyes dancing to the pied pipers in Washington

 

[hometeam]

In other words, everyone is lying.

Not everything reported outside of your extremist group is lies. What one of the documents says is what I've told you all along:
One February 23, 2023 assessment, titled, “Battle for the Donbas Region Likely Heading for a Stalemate Throughout 2023”, said Russia is unlikely to be able to take that part of east Ukraine.
“Russia’s grinding campaign of attrition in the Donbas region is likely heading toward a stalemate, thwarting Moscow’s goal to capture the entire region in 2023,” read the assessment

Ukraine war likely to stretch past 2023: Purported US documents

Unverified US intelligence documents say fighting in Donbas region headed for 'stalemate', war casualties much higher.

www.aljazeera.com

For about a year now you, the judge so extreme he was fired from Fox News, the pedophile, and the libertarian colonel have been wrong over and over again about Russia crushing Ukraine and the war about to be over unless US troops step in. And next year you will be saying the same damn thing.

You don't want the truth, you want to mislead and deceive others. What kind of dick does that?

 

[Hughinn]

Not everything reported outside of your extremist group is lies. What one of the documents says is what I've told you all along:
One February 23, 2023 assessment, titled, “Battle for the Donbas Region Likely Heading for a Stalemate Throughout 2023”, said Russia is unlikely to be able to take that part of east Ukraine.
“Russia’s grinding campaign of attrition in the Donbas region is likely heading toward a stalemate, thwarting Moscow’s goal to capture the entire region in 2023,” read the assessment

Ukraine war likely to stretch past 2023: Purported US documents

Unverified US intelligence documents say fighting in Donbas region headed for 'stalemate', war casualties much higher.

www.aljazeera.com

For about a year now you, the judge so extreme he was fired from Fox News, the pedophile, and the libertarian colonel have been wrong over and over again about Russia crushing Ukraine and the war about to be over unless US troops step in. And next year you will be saying the same damn thing.

You don't want the truth, you want to mislead and deceive others. What kind of dick does that?

You're bullshit propoganda doesn't change anything.


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[Hughinn]

Not everything reported outside of your extremist group is lies. What one of the documents says is what I've told you all along:
One February 23, 2023 assessment, titled, “Battle for the Donbas Region Likely Heading for a Stalemate Throughout 2023”, said Russia is unlikely to be able to take that part of east Ukraine.
“Russia’s grinding campaign of attrition in the Donbas region is likely heading toward a stalemate, thwarting Moscow’s goal to capture the entire region in 2023,” read the assessment

Ukraine war likely to stretch past 2023: Purported US documents

Unverified US intelligence documents say fighting in Donbas region headed for 'stalemate', war casualties much higher.

www.aljazeera.com

For about a year now you, the judge so extreme he was fired from Fox News, the pedophile, and the libertarian colonel have been wrong over and over again about Russia crushing Ukraine and the war about to be over unless US troops step in. And next year you will be saying the same damn thing.

You don't want the truth, you want to mislead and deceive others. What kind of dick does that?

And you're the cunt trying to mislead everyone here.

You came here from the start parroting bullshit propoganda and CNN MSNBC talking points and copying and pasting propoganda in massive amounts.

None of it is true. It's all lies.

Ukraine is not winning. Ukraine can't win. The war should have been prevented by our own leadership instead of provoking it to benifit themselves.

And yet again, they've been caught lying about everything from their own involvement from the beginning all the way down to the real situation on the ground.

You're not a born American. I am. I've seen this before, many times.

@falseprophet09 is a veteran of the US military and has seen it himself from the inside. He, I and many others have tried repeatedly to tell you not to believe the bullshit you were slinging. But you wouldn't listen.

It's one thing to be wrong. Nobody's always right. But to the type of piece of shit you are and cheer on something like this war, while parroting lies and bullshit propoganda of the people responsible for it in the first place.... well that just despicable

 

[Hughinn]

Look idiot @hometeam

I'm not interested in exchanging massive amounts of copy and pasted propoganda pretending to be facts.

@GuerillaPete I don't believe is interested either.

So please just stop with that bullshit.

These leaked intelligence documents have obviously been removed from circulation and are now censored and unavailable in their original form for any of us. We haven't seen them.

So cut the bullshit you spew about "well so and so of the Washington think tank says)...and then a slew of horseshit copy and pasted. Enough of that already.

What we do know these documents did, is show that the Washington establishment has been lying about the situation in Ukraine and their involvement in it from the beginning.

We can't know whether or not the ratio of death is 7 to 1 flavoring Russia, or even 2 to 1 flavoring Ukraine is true. But we can be sure.... we've been lied to.

Washington has known all along that Ukraine is losing and cannot win, and they've simply lied about it. That's not hard for a born American to believe, because we've seen this before. Many times. It's actually not a surprise at all.

We also know there's massive amounts of money missing in this "Ukraine aid". To the tune of at least hundreds of millions of dollars, possibly trillions. All taken from the American taxpayers. Again, not surprised if you're a born American. It's actually not even shocking its so typical. It's happened before. Many times

Lastly, we know the mainstream media has been lying intentionally. Right along with our government. Lloyd Austin said just last week ukranian military was doing well and could be winning soon. And he knew he was lying when he said it. He most certainly read these leaked documents displaying the dire situation in Ukraine weeks ago and lied to the American people anyway

These are the people you parrot. These are the people you quote as proof of the horseshit you say. Which is absolutely ridiculous to any American citizen paying even the slightest attention the past thirty years.

This ends, exactly like I told you almost a year ago. And it sucks like hell to be right, I take no pleasure or solace in it, but rather I grimace and grieve.

Because I know how Washington operates. They're not terribly smart people, nor are they very perceptive.

They're extremely dishonest, conniving, cruel, greedy and completely power drunk on their own Kool aid.

American people, just like most of the world, just want to avoid them and protect themselves from them.

That's the reality

 

[hometeam]

This ends, exactly like I told you almost a year ago. And it sucks like hell to be right, I take no pleasure or solace in it, but rather I grimace and grieve.

Sucks like hell to be right? You've been using scare tactics saying Ukraine is running out of soldiers and our boys are next. You have clearly not been right.

The leaked documents don't say "Washington has known all along that Ukraine is losing and cannot win." Nobody knows how this war ends. A war like this takes years to play out. Hughstrodamus doesn't have a crystal ball in his head. It depends on who gives up first: Russia, Ukraine, or Western aid. If it ends in the Russians giving up and going home you will be saying the Russians are winning up until the day it happens, denying it for days while it happens, then making it out to be some travesty.

Now, the Ukrainians are a bit upset their whole offensive battle plans have been leaked:

Ukraine alters counter-offensive plans after document leak - CNN

Ukraine has been forced to amend some of its military plans ahead of a much-vaunted counter-offensive due to a leak of classified U.S. documents, CNN reported on Monday citing a source close to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy.

www.reuters.com

but we do know at this point Russia's offensive has culminated and failed to meet it's objectives and Ukraine will likely start an offensive soon to regain territory.

Meanwhile, you're still not giving up on your charade about this war being lost, even though you know better. What kind of dick intentionally misleads and deceives people about his country and their ally and the war they are fighting?

 

[Hughinn]

Sucks like hell to be right? You've been using scare tactics saying Ukraine is running out of soldiers and our boys are next. You have clearly not been right.

I've been right all along.

Because I understand Washington politics and motivations. You do not.

Ukraine, unfortunately, has lost an entire generation of young men and some women in a war that was totally preventable by powers they cannot control.
Honestly, my heart goes out to them.

Unlike you. I don't see it as a good thing this entire generation of ukranian men is dying to suit the ambitious plans of elitist bastards that care nothing for them.

Because, unlike you, I see these ukranian people as my brothers, and not the vipers in Washington.

I also feel for the Russian people dying here.
I don't hate the Russian people like you do. Because I understand that they're just trying to get security of a future for themselves and their children. Just like the ukranian people. And they're being manipulated by greedy fucked up people who don't care about them.

And idiots like you who don't know any better.

The leaked documents don't say "Washington has known all along that Ukraine is losing and cannot win."

That's exactly what the documents prove.

Washington knew for a fact that Ukraine was losing badly and simply kept on lying.

Nobody knows how this war ends. A war like this takes years to play out. Hughstrodamus doesn't have a crystal ball in his head. It depends on who gives up first: Russia, Ukraine, or Western aid. If it ends in the Russians giving up and going home you will be saying the Russians are winning up until the day it happens, denying it for days while it happens, then making it out to be some travesty.

You're getting incoherent now

Now, the Ukrainians are a bit upset their whole offensive battle plans have been leaked:

Ukraine alters counter-offensive plans after document leak - CNN

Ukraine has been forced to amend some of its military plans ahead of a much-vaunted counter-offensive due to a leak of classified U.S. documents, CNN reported on Monday citing a source close to Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy.

www.reuters.com

but we do know at this point Russia's offensive has culminated and failed to meet it's objectives and Ukraine will likely start an offensive soon to regain territory.

Meanwhile, you're still not giving up on your charade about this war being lost, even though you know better. What kind of dick intentionally misleads and deceives people about his country and their ally and the war they are fighting?

Again, you stupid bastard.
The Ukranian regime is not an ally of the American people.

It's a corrupt Eastern European ogliarchy that bribed Joe Biden. Not an ally of mine.

And the ukranian people are not synonymous with the ukranian government.

You stupid bastard.... telegram is literally full of ukranian soldiers who just want to end this to get back to Kyiv and hang zelensky before Russia does. Because they've been played and betrayed. And they know it.

You're the lying gullible piece of shit parroting propoganda and cheerleader the destruction and death of hundreds of thousands of men each of which is easily worth ten of you.

You're a piece of shit. A coward, a cunt, capon and a bitch. Riding the coattails of men worth far more than you. And you know it.

Every one of those men bleeding out on those frozen plains fighting each other in abject misery and suffering is a man worth ten of you. Easily.

This will end, exactly the way I told you.

And your phaggot assed empire will end exactly the way I told you.

You will end, on your back crying like a bitch begging for more time to prove to somebody you're a man. But you're not.

We will all get what's coming to us bitch.

I am, a sinner that does not expect forgiveness. I will certainly pay for whatever is due.

But I'm not a coward like you.

So there's at least that

 

[hometeam]

I'm not interested in exchanging massive amounts of copy and pasted propoganda pretending to be facts.

So, I post this analysis from the Brookings Institute, a nonprofit bi-partisan think tank who backs up their analysis with facts, and I quote relevant parts:

Why is unification so unpopular in Taiwan? It’s the PRC political system, not just culture | Brookings

The authors analyze and discuss the results of a survey they conducted on Taiwanese identity and Chinese identity in Taiwan, and observe how identity impacts sentiments toward unification.

www.brookings.edu

The Institute has been named "Think Tank of the Year" and "Top Think Tank in the World" every year since 2008. And you call it copy/paste propaganda by the inner circle of Washington elitists?

The authors of this particular study are Shelley Rigger, Lev Nachman, Chit Wai John Mok, and Nathan Kar Ming Chan who have studied this stuff their whole adult lives, have PhDs, and are professors at Brown University in Rhode Island, Loyola in Chicago, and Chengchi University in Taiwan. If they're lying their reputation is hurt.

Then you get a bunch of info from libertarian podcasters with no credentials in what they're talking about whatsoever, none. You post a video clip with a convicted pedophile sex offender. You tell us to read a book by Scott Horton, a libertarian radio show host who as best I can tell has no degree in anything. He runs the Libertarian Institute, which is an anti-America activism group. Just because these are the supposed truth tellers? Because it aligns with your anti-Washington worldview? Because if it's coming from the minority opposing view outside of the mainstream consensus it has to be true?

It's no wonder you don't know what you're talking about, and if it proves you wrong it's just lies.

 

[Zebedee]

Meanwhile, you're still not giving up on your charade to mislead and deceive. What kind of dick does that?

He’s clearly mentally ill - not a Russian troll etc - & he believes what he’s posting is “the truth” & it’s extremely important that he spreads it. He’s also an extremely aggressive & obnoxious cunt - one of the most obnoxious cunts I’ve come across in over 20 years on forums.

@hometeam Honestly mate, just leave him to it.

I get why you feel the need to counter his arguments & for the most part I think you’ve done a grand job. But he’s essentially just preaching to the converted - ie our resident neo-Nazi @falseprophet09 - who believes every Jew is part of a plot to enslave the “white race” & end “freedom” blah fucking blah. Bubba is no more converting others to his beliefs than the BBC guy whose been posting all the full-on tinfoil conspiracy stuff on Meso for years. The difference between them is that the BBC guy isn’t highly aggressive & confrontational & prone to inviting those who disagree with him to meet for a punch-up, like Bubba the Dixie DYEL is.

My point here is you’re not really achieving anything here. You’re an intelligent guy that (unlike Bubba the Dixie DYEL) has much to offer the forum on core subjects, ie training, nutrition, gear, harm reduction, yet all your time on Meso is being taken up arguing with this unstable, delusional fanatic that going off his post history here & elsewhere, has nothing better to do with his life.

If you stop responding to him, this thread will go the same way as the BBC guy’s threads - everyone ignores them.

As it is, your responding to him just encourages Bubba, reinforces his delusional world view & breathes more motivation into him.

Do everyone a favour mate - fuck Bubba off, ignore him & his delusions & come back to posting on Meso proper - IE start posting about core topics again.