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[hijoshiki]

You dont think an 18yr old should have a gun but its perfectly fine to send them off to war? Come the hell on!

As far as your quote above, all FFL holders that sell have the exact same process to go through. Fail the 4473 and NICS and you can be looking at some pretty severe charges. But the shooter didnt fail. Ask yourself why he didnt fail the system and you might understand why even the most strict gun laws would not have stopped this situation from happening. Add to that, the shooter didnt even have to go to a gun shop to carry out his plan. The same result could have accomplished through different means. All legal. Again, you cannot legislate evil.

18 year olds sent to war is stupid. Of course you round up the young and dumb to send to the meat grinder of war. You couldn't get an almost 50 year old like me to fight unless it's protecting my own people and family. I sure as hell wouldn't get involved in these wars in service for our zionist overlords.

Just like anything, you take the young and fill their heads with nonsense because they don't have the time and experience on this earth to know their head from their ass. An 18 year old is just a baby, he's only been playing with is pecker for a few years?

There's nothing magical about being 18 and going off to war. I could just as easily train a 12 year old and send them off to war like has been done in the past. I could probably even train a little 9 year old shit to do the same thing if you find me a few tough kids.

Squeezing a trigger and taking life is the work of morons, any dumbfuck can do this, it doesn't take wisdom or insight and so yes a kid can be trained to kill without a single regret like a mindless fool.

There's a reason religious assholes say "you gotta get them while they're young", because they know an old athiest like me will punch a million holes in their bullshit stories.

So no 18 year olds shouldn't be able to buy weapons, except muzzle loaders and archery for hunting. Let them grow up and learn about the world, I've yet to meet an 18 year old that wasn't reckless and dangerous on some level, they're just not adults and that's all there is to it.

 

[hijoshiki]

Again, you cannot legislate evil.

What is evil?

If we're talking about some sort of demonic spirit that took over this kid it's nonsense.

This kid it seems was your garden variety school shooter. Frustrated by his lack of power to change his future, walls closing in, decided to commit suicide by taking as many people with him as possible.

I suspect the better word would be narcissist, evil suggest a super natural force, where's narcissist is a self important asshole that doesn't take others into account and often has a string of troubled relationships because they treat others like dog shit. We have millions and millions of narcissists in this country, America is full of these people and perhaps we would be better off calling these people evil, because they certainly are, but they sit in all positions of power, they run everything it would seem, they own our government, they are our police, judges, they run our military.

In the grand scheme of things this school shooting could have been prevented with better security, obviously if he couldn't have gotten into the school he wouldn't have been able to do what he did, however this idiot was looking to kill people regardless.

If he had a muzzle loader it would have been much harder to do what he did. I'm not sure why the gun people get so riled up when you talk about large capacity weapons that have the ability to take out more people. Any gun, hand guns included can have magazines with extended capacity.

Go back to muzzle loaders and lets see how many of these killings take place, just a thought.

 

[barbell001]

So then the only people who have firearms will be...the government, and the criminals?

No thanks. I want the single mom to be able to be able to defend herself against rapists.

I also don't trust any government enough to give them a monopoly on force. We've seen how that has turned out in history.

Youre a fuckin idiot! Do you know what NICS is? How about a 4473? The fact you think he used a "sophisticated killing weapon" spells out just how ignorant you are to weapons, let alone laws. GTFO with your simple minded overemotional BS! Heres the facts jack....you cant legislate evil out of any society, period! We protect, with weapons, certain adults, but not our precious future...our children. And fucktards like you and every other pussified bitch thats too afraid to protect, not only yourself but others in our evil societies by arming yourself, calling for weapons bans for law abiding citizens, lobby for lesser charges on criminals and anti death penalty cripple our ability to quickly extinguish the evil among us. Stay the fuck in your lane and out of the USAs business!

You are EXACTLY the type of mentally unstable idiot that should not be allowed to carry a weapon of any kind - Please tell me you do not own a gun?!

Your quote 'We protect, with weapons, certain adults, but not our precious future...our children.' No you don't - You kill each other by pulling the trigger first and asking questions later.

Is an AR 15 not a sophisticated killing weapon? Nah probably not to you, its a perfectly normal toy that every man should be allowed to carry to 'protect his house' LMFAO

 

[barbell001]

You dont think an 18yr old should have a gun but its perfectly fine to send them off to war? Come the hell on!

As far as your quote above, all FFL holders that sell have the exact same process to go through. Fail the 4473 and NICS and you can be looking at some pretty severe charges. But the shooter didnt fail. Ask yourself why he didnt fail the system and you might understand why even the most strict gun laws would not have stopped this situation from happening. Add to that, the shooter didnt even have to go to a gun shop to carry out his plan. The same result could have accomplished through different means. All legal. Again, you cannot legislate evil.

Yeah yeh the gun didn't kill someone or the fact it can fire X amount of rounds per second aimed through a telescopic sight at distance - it was the nasty person right? Not the guns fault, everyone should own an AR 15 its perfectly normal .....

 

[may2021]

I think you're all missing the point. Texans are mentally ill, animals.

The dumb fucks would rather cause a car accident inuring both themselves and you, just to get to a stop light, 50 feet ahead.

Texans are a low IQ, mentally ill plague.

 

[pahick]

You couldn't get an almost 50 year old like me to fight unless it's protecting my own people and family.

By then its too late. Reactive gets you killed. Every. Damn. Time. Youre not prepared. Dont have the balls for it. Never did, never will.

There's a reason religious assholes say "you gotta get them while they're young", because they know an old athiest like me will punch a million holes in their bullshit stories.

There is no shortage of people trying to manipulate our young, narcissistic atheists included.

So no 18 year olds shouldn't be able to buy weapons, except muzzle loaders and archery for hunting. Let them grow up and learn about the world, I've yet to meet an 18 year old that wasn't reckless and dangerous on some level, they're just not adults and that's all there is to it.

Ive met many fine gentlemen 18 yrs old, and some younger, that could and would school you on the facts of life that you find repulsive, such as war.

Go back to muzzle loaders and lets see how many of these killings take place, just a thought.

Take away internet and all tech, back to ink and paper, and see how quickly this world implodes and eventually settles to a time where men had courage honesty and respect for all the live.

The dumbing down of society has taken a great toll. Blaming an inanimate object on killing. You asked the question "what is evil". History spells that out pretty clearly, and changing the tool evil used has never mattered one bit. Blood has been spilled with lesser tools, the outcome the same. The only fact that matters and needs questioned is why is evil seemingly increasing. An atheist will never be able to answer that question fully. Ever.

 

[pahick]

Your quote 'We protect, with weapons, certain adults, but not our precious future...our children.' No you don't -

Yes, we do. If you ever took a step into many of our institutions across America you would know this. We protect our most highly esteemed, our sick, and our poor...but not our children. Unless they happen to be or related to one of our most highly esteemed, sick or poor.

Is an AR 15 not a sophisticated killing weapon? Nah probably not to you, its a perfectly normal toy that every man should be allowed to carry to 'protect his house' LMFAO

Definitely not a sophisticated killing weapon. Thats why we use a variant for war. Its ease of use and maintenance. We have much more sophisticated weapons designed for multiple uses, including killing. And yes, I believe every man woman and child should have access to such weaponry and taught its manner of use and the outcome of such instances.

Yeah yeh the gun didn't kill someone or the fact it can fire X amount of rounds per second aimed through a telescopic sight at distance - it was the nasty person right? Not the guns fault, everyone should own an AR 15 its perfectly normal .....

The gun didnt kill anyone any more than a syringe, a needle or a medication has injected itself into ones body. Inanimate objects until a force, such as a human, puts them into action.

 

[Hightower]

When I was growing up in the 70's and 80's there was no school shootings that I knew of. Perhaps there were a few cases nationally, but they were probably targeted individuals, gang activity or revenge, or just someone scared that wanted a gun at school.

Schools I suspect were much more violent physically back in my day then they are now as even I got into fist fights regularly to protect myself. My graduating class had about 1200 students and I can tell you it was like being in a prison, bloody viscous fights, even attempted murder where I remember a kid sticking a pen into a kids temple. We're talking mob fights where kids where tossed over vehicles, punched out cold, I do remember a few kids bringing handguns to school to protect themselves and getting caught and they disappeared and I don't know what happened to them.

Same with my dad that was an army brat and moved around all the time while growing up and had to get in fist fights back in the 50's/60's because kids would screw with the new kid.

So the problem of violence has always existed in schools and it imo was far far worse back a few decades ago then it is today where kids are charged with crimes if they fight, if they even speak in violent terms, it goes down on their record where's I never had a record when I got into a fight protecting myself, even when I picked up a kid up over my head and threw him over a concession stand for sucker punching me in the mouth, while I was talking to my friends.

I suspect even if you have strict gun control you still haven't fixed the fundamental problem and you haven't secured the school environment enough to prevent violence. That said 90% of all school shootings are carried out by students that attend those schools, so they're insiders that know the vulnerabilities.

I'm all for not selling guns to 18 year olds at all. I don't even know if a 21 year old is really all that impressive if you ask me as far as maturity. Perhaps 25 years old would be the better age when a kid has more of a chance to grow up and become and adult that values others lives. I don't think we should limit the sale of firearms to mature adults however.

It appears this shooter didn't actually have the money for his gun purchase, but instead put it on a credit card. That shouldn't be allowed. 18 year old kid buys weapons that can kill lots of people on a credit card, that should throw up lots of red flags and the gun dealer should have told them no sale.

Gun shop owner used to be hard asses, if they didn't feel good about you they would refuse the sale. You ask for a handgun and they'd ask all sorts of questions and they'd refuse you on the spot. They weren't playing games. It seems today's gun shops don't give a shit. If I owned a gun shop and some snot nose 18 year old kid wants to buy high capacity weapons on a credit card I'd tell him to hit the road.

Now I read it carefully, about the history of the generation of us, our parents, I completely agree. And again, I agree that it is necessary to raise the age when you can buy weapons. I think yes, it is necessary to raise at least 25, maybe even 28-30 years.

 

[Hightower]

I think you're all missing the point. Texans are mentally ill, animals.

The dumb fucks would rather cause a car accident inuring both themselves and you, just to get to a stop light, 50 feet ahead.

Texans are a low IQ, mentally ill plague.

I'm not sure that this is true, that it is correct, and that you equated all Texas residents with idiots. How are you ready to argue your position besides emotions?

 

[Shadow Project]

Murricans really thinks more weapons is the solution to their weapons problem, meanwhile in Europe nobody has firearms and we never have shootings.

 

[pahick]

Murricans really thinks more weapons is the solution to their weapons problem, meanwhile in Europe nobody has firearms and we never have shootings.

Wouldnt say never. But then they would pale in comparison to the stabbings and muslims blowing shit up.

 

[hijoshiki]

Murricans really thinks more weapons is the solution to their weapons problem, meanwhile in Europe nobody has firearms and we never have shootings.

The thing is your societies aren't based on rabid individualism. You have a social safety net that doesn't exist in this country.

Also you tend to be more homogenized in race and ethnicity. Give me a country with say 98% ethnic Western Europeans and I'll show you a well run orderly society of people that live by anglo-saxon principles.

The problem is America is a country where individualism is championed to benefit the rich greatly while the poor are ignored until they commit a crime and end up in our mass incarceration system.

Guns are sold as the solution to this problem, you can keep your individuality, you don't have to fix problems when it comes to the poor and if the poor get any ideas about robbing or harming, you can shoot them dead.

It's a mindless system we have here in the states and for that reason guns aren't going anywhere because we don't like poor people or those with mental problems, we kill them or put them behind bars.

 

[Chuck Spears]

So a she-male kid shoots up an elementary school while the cops cower outside, the sheriff and mayor tell lies about what happened, the news media covers for them until they cant hide the truth any more and the solution to this is gun control for the rest of us?

 

[hijoshiki]

Wouldnt say never. But then they would pale in comparison to the stabbings and muslims blowing shit up.

Eventually that diversity will bite them and they'll end up with higher crime rates.

The safe utopia of Western Europe will be wiped out when their replacements shift their demographics.

Take Greece for example, they don't allow or they try to prevent at all costs Mosques being built, they are out in the open hostile towards the religion of peace that is at odds with the Greeks Orthodox beliefs and culture. Why should the Greeks let themselves be over ran. You gotta good thing going for your people, why be stupid and let others come in and destroy it.

 

[hijoshiki]

So a she-male kid shoots up an elementary school while the cops cower outside, the sheriff and mayor tell lies about what happened, the news media covers for them until they cant hide the truth any more and the solution to this is gun control for the rest of us?

That's not the solution.

Gun control isn't the issue at all. I'm a mature man, almost 50, I'm too old to get hot under the collar and do something reckless because at my age I just don't give a shit about much.

This is why Indian chiefs were old, they've seen it all, they know what problems will happen, you don't want a young punk leading your tribe.

An 18 year old hasn't seen shit, he hasn't had time to experience the ups and downs of life, the tragedies, the drudgery of life, the repetition. He is just a child.

So 18, 19, 20 don't get to buy weapons anymore. It's that simple. They haven't proven themselves as adults. And that's not their fault, they haven't had enough time to work through a long list of problems that life throws your way until about 35, that's when a man becomes an adult, that's when the light bulb goes off, he's divorced, he has spent years working, his life sucks and it finally dawns on him that this is all there is, he accepts the futility and moves forward with his life realizing everyone else suffers this same fate except the lucky few.

 

[Chuck Spears]

I'm too old to get hot under the collar and do something reckless because at my age

I'm almost 50 too and I dont get hot under the collar and do something reckless because I'm not a violent impulsive retard, not because of my age.

So 18, 19, 20 don't get to buy weapons anymore.

And then a 21 yo shoots up a school we raise the age of gun ownership to 22? You are literally on the slippery slope to total gun bans, which is the ultimate goal here.

 

[may2021]

I'm not sure that this is true, that it is correct, and that you equated all Texas residents with idiots. How are you ready to argue your position besides emotions?

Not a native but having lived there, I can certainly say this is the case. Is it everywhere in Texas? Probably not everywhere. But if you care to look at emotionless indicators, try checking National IQ scores by state.

 

[Chuck Spears]

Not a native but having lived there, I can certainly say this is the case. Is it everywhere in Texas? Probably not everywhere. But if you care to look at emotionless indicators, try checking National IQ scores by state.

Then take a look at IQ scores by demographic and then take a look at Texas and everyone involved in the school shooting and response.

 

[may2021]

Then take a look at IQ scores by demographic and then take a look at Texas and everyone involved in the school shooting and response.

The fact is Texas is 30th in IQ. From a mental illness perspective, demographically speaking, immigrants take hold of the stupid Texan mentality from day one. And in my experience, the immigrants I did meet there, were far smarter than the white natives - and I'm white.

 

[Chuck Spears]

The fact is Texas is 30th in IQ. From a mental illness perspective, demographically speaking, immigrants take hold of the stupid Texan mentality from day one. And in my experience, the immigrants I did meet there, were far smarter than the white natives - and I'm white.

So millions of illegal aliens, most of whom dont speak English, are all highly intelligent but the minute they get to America start acting like retarded White Texans?
FYI the high school drop out rate in Mexico is 50%

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S073805931300103X

Also 30th out of 50 is only slightly below AVERAGE.
I wonder what could be bringing the overall IQ in TX below average? Hmmmmm? What a mystery.

Average IQ by Country 2025

Interesting data on the average IQ by country, offering insights into the average intelligence levels of populations through various tests and sources.

worldpopulationreview.com