Red Meat, lots of it

[MaxPayne]

I want to know everone's opinion on red meat v.s. whey protein. Lately I've been buying ahuge pack of ground sirloin, cooking it up, mixing in classico spaghetti sauce, and eating that over the course of a week.

Strength + gains have been awesome.

How healthy is this?

Thoughts?

 

[steroid500]

a lot of red meat can give u gout, and plug u up

dont worry bout cholesterol, 90% of the cholesterol in ur blood is made by ur liver, dietary cholesterol plays an insignificant role in raising blood cholesterol unless your prone to high cholesterol, shit look at me, all i eat is red meat, and my cholesterol (both good and bad) is so low my doctor wanted to put me on meds to RAISE it, can u beleive that?

but for the strength and size gains it gives over whey i think its definatly worth the risks

 

[greyowl]

a lot of red meat can give u gout, and plug u up

dont worry bout cholesterol, 90% of the cholesterol in ur blood is made by ur liver, dietary cholesterol plays an insignificant role in raising blood cholesterol unless your prone to high cholesterol, shit look at me, all i eat is red meat, and my cholesterol (both good and bad) is so low my doctor wanted to put me on meds to RAISE it, can u beleive that?

but for the strength and size gains it gives over whey i think its definatly worth the risks

Unless I'm mistaken, a high intake of any protein will exacerbate gout, regardless of whether it's animal or plant-derived. I stand to be corrected on this point though.

My concern about intaking large amounts of mass-produced red meat are the residual amounts of anti-biotics and hormones and other crap that are fed to these animals. If this is a concern for you, go organic.

Also, you might consider making sure your meat is the leanest available, to limit your intake of saturated fat.

Have you consindered making your own ground beef? You buy a hunk of chuck or brisket, something that has some fat on it but not a lot. Then half-freeze it and then chop it up in a food processor. It's dead-easy and I bet you'd be able to save a shitload of money and have fresher, better-tasting meat. Also, with this method you're eating meat from only one individual animal, whereas a package of ground beef you buy in supermarkets is a combination of meat from many different individuals, which increases the risk that you will be poinsoned by e-coli or other contaminants.

 

[steroid500]

My concern about intaking large amounts of mass-produced red meat are the residual amounts of anti-biotics and hormones and other crap that are fed to these animals. If this is a concern for you, go organic.

good call, good call

except if u eat organic, u wont b getting any residual finaplix they give the cow b4 slaughter

 

[Ruper]

My concern about intaking large amounts of mass-produced red meat are the residual amounts of anti-biotics and hormones and other crap that are fed to these animals. If this is a concern for you, go organic.

It would be my concern with eating large amounts of almost anything - including orgainic. This is one of many reasons I like variety.

But what is a 'large amount'? I certainly eat some red meat almost daily, but it's not my main source of protein. Neither are shakes. Personally I'd prefer red meat over whey during the day except for possibly PWO (or adding to oats or yogurt).

Some people would consider 8oz/day to be a lot of red meat, for others 2-3lb/day might be 'a large amount'.

 

[MeatTrain]

Now I am thinking about my lack of red meat--- and how I need to locate another natural grocer that has a butcher shop!!

The meat and pasta pump is tough to beat... I do that pre and whey post-- followed by more pasta/ or couscous.


It's a great plan.

 

[hackskii]

I eat alot of red meat and I actually feel good eating it. I also love the taste. I am a carnavore anyway, bread, pasta make me bloated and fat so I leave those out of my diet with the exception of cheat days where pizza is involved then all bets are off.

Personally the only issue I have with Red Meat is the toxins store in the fat and even though I never trim the fat off, it tasts sooo good.

Had a friend that ate probably 3 big cans of tuna a day and after 20 years he has mercury poisining.

So, I guess moderation is key.

 

[MANWHORE]

yes moderation is key ... food companies don't care about the consumer and they put all kind of shit in their food just to protect it from spoilage .. Bad news for us .. BEER you can't go wrong with BEER lol

 

[dennis]

I use both for my intake..meat and whey..sometimes the whey is quicker/faster to whip up.One advantage i have over you guy's is I work and live on large ranch..i can eat all the venison my heart desires.We butcher about 12 head per year and grind most of it up..it is so lean that we actually have to add just a very small % of beef tallow so it won't stick to the pan while cooking it up.I know..you might be a redneck if you kill your own food..dg

 

[pcgizzmo]

Unless I'm mistaken, a high intake of any protein will exacerbate gout, regardless of whether it's animal or plant-derived. I stand to be corrected on this point though.

My concern about intaking large amounts of mass-produced red meat are the residual amounts of anti-biotics and hormones and other crap that are fed to these animals. If this is a concern for you, go organic.

Also, you might consider making sure your meat is the leanest available, to limit your intake of saturated fat.

Have you consindered making your own ground beef? You buy a hunk of chuck or brisket, something that has some fat on it but not a lot. Then half-freeze it and then chop it up in a food processor. It's dead-easy and I bet you'd be able to save a shitload of money and have fresher, better-tasting meat. Also, with this method you're eating meat from only one individual animal, whereas a package of ground beef you buy in supermarkets is a combination of meat from many different individuals, which increases the risk that you will be poinsoned by e-coli or other contaminants.

I get gout. I have not taken any meds to control it but just Ibuprofen when it flares. I have done lots or research. It seems that insulin can play a role in gout flares. I don't have the study but a Dr. put people w/gout on a low carb/high protein diet to keep insulin levels low. The people's uric acid excretion improved because the insulin was low. When they spiked insulin the gout came back. Kidneys work better w/low insulin so high protein should not insight a gout flare up as long as insulin is kept to a minimum. It works for me. I can keep my gout under control if I only eat carbs before and after a workout and eat low gi carbs the rest of the time w/protein. Don't screw up though because gout hurts like a son of a bitch. I do get off once or twice a month and eat pizza and sweets and as long as I go back after that one cheat day my gout stays under control. If I go off 2-3 days it comes back.

Paul

Paul