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Recomping effects of tren possible at 100-120mg/w?

sionnach said:
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Industry standard. Skin is very thin and vascular. Minimizes transfer to others.
 
RockyP said:
If you’re going to post, please research before you do. There’s a study linked on this very thread. Or just do a google search. Test enanthate is 6-7 days. Tren enanthate is 11 days.
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That paper seems to be about the structure of tren, not the half life. it throws in the half lives but I saw nowhere about how they determined it, at least on the limited version I have, so it might just be something they heard. They had no citation for it or methodology for determining half life so I'm not just taking their word for it. Generally enanthate is a week and hex is longer than that even.
 
readalot said:
Notice anything interesting about that part of the paper?



Notice Steroid Plotter uses these numbers as well and cites this same paper.

What do we know about elimination half life of enanthate and acetate? The ester controls the depot absorption, yes? Under control of flip flop kinetics, yes?
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so is enanthate 6 days or 11 days? there is only one study, i didnt dig into. but that would also mean that test enanthate is 11 days? which i havent heard of since cyp is longer.
 
Liter O' Test said:
so is enanthate 6 days or 11 days? there is only one study, i didnt dig into. but that would also mean that test enanthate is 11 days? which i havent heard of since cyp is longer.
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Shit. Depends where you look. That’s how I came across that study. I saw 5-7 days, 7-10 days and 11 days. I look at several roid websites that discussed the compound, cycles, side effects, etc. They are all guessing.

Me personally, I like the huge peaks and dips Tren A has. ED worked fine. EOD is working fine. But skipped one day on EOD and I felt it. Like I needed my fix. Got a little grumpy. lol.

Now that I know I can handle this dosage I’ll likely switch to E soon. EOD isn’t bad. But 2-3 times a week would be better.
 
Wanted to apologize to @Eddie. re: past comments about Tren dosing at the top ranks. while many pros have recently spoken about using 140-300 mg weekly Tren (palacios, Jewett, Shier, etc), just saw an interview with Kurt havens wherein he said that some (rare) pros he’s consulted with were running 200-250 mg of acetate…DAILY. So, it does seem that the savagery continues…
 
RockyP said:
Wanted to apologize to @Eddie. re: past comments about Tren dosing at the top ranks. while many pros have recently spoken about using 140-300 mg weekly Tren (palacios, Jewett, Shier, etc), just saw an interview with Kurt havens wherein he said that some (rare) pros he’s consulted with were running 200-250 mg of acetate…DAILY. So, it does seem that the savagery continues…
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All cool man. Even if 500 doesn't yield twice the effect of 250 some guys might push it simply because they would do anything to get a higher placement. Also, it doesn't affect all people the same.

Nate Spear for example said he was running 1gr tren E and 1,5gr test E and he was fine. This dosages might turn some guys to psychos while others feel good on it..
 
rokkrul3r said:
yes, tren is strong AF... 75mg will be felt by most people, keeping below 100 is a nice sweet spot for nutrient partitioning, fat burning and hypertrophy with very little side effects.

when you take a substance at 2x the dosage, you'll almost never get 2x the hypertrophy (aesthetic effects, yes, but these fade fast with cessation anyway), but you'll most definitely get 2x the side effects at the very least.

so keep that tren below 100mg and enjoy the ride

i did 9 months of tren at 75mg (along with test and mast also at 75mg and winstrol at 10mg pwo), so, it's much more tolerable than higher dosages.
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My sweetspot was just a tad higher, it was 100mg tren without the ester weight. It's basically all the recomping and sheer anabolism and IN THE GYM drive without much of the negatives. Going down to 50-75 got rid of all mental sides and still helped with recomping and looks, but I enjoyed and utilized the drive so much that I just felt it's lackluster.

Slight nightsweats due to blood sugar, a slightly sharper temper that would easily be expplained by just almost doubling androgens in my cheecks and all the good shit. Basically like an extra 300-400 test but less sides.
 
I still think it’s useful for guys to share their experiences at varying dosages. I don’t know if we’ll ever see genetic markers / tests in our lifetime that can help predict response / side effects. But it’s helpful to get as much anecdotal evidence as possible about who tolerates what and at what dosages. I don’t think it’s as simple as bigger guys tolerate more (I know it’s not) but I don’t think there’s such a thing as bad data. Just faulty interpretation of said data.

Havens did hypothesize that the anabolic effects of Tren topped out at 100-150/day and that anything more than that was likely just providing more CNS drive (which can be helpful at the end of a long prep).
 
RockyP said:
Havens did hypothesize that the anabolic effects of Tren topped out at 100-150/day and that anything more than that was likely just providing more CNS drive (which can be helpful at the end of a long prep).
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lil kurt and all those other retards just type into a.i all day, they arent hypothesizing anything
i spent 10 minutes yesterday typing things about ar saturation and tren into chatgpt and came to the same "hypothesis"
 
RockyP said:
Wanted to apologize to @Eddie. re: past comments about Tren dosing at the top ranks. while many pros have recently spoken about using 140-300 mg weekly Tren (palacios, Jewett, Shier, etc), just saw an interview with Kurt havens wherein he said that some (rare) pros he’s consulted with were running 200-250 mg of acetate…DAILY. So, it does seem that the savagery continues…
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everyone lies about what theyre on
 
blessed said:
everyone lies about what theyre on
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Not really. People who cant achieve their goals, dont know how to diet / train, aren’t honest with themselves about their genetics, etc all think everyone lies about dosages. Thats the sad fact. You must understand that when you say things like this you are announcing to the world that you have no idea what you are doing in this sport, and / or that you have shit genetics and haven’t come to terms with reality. Nobody who is confident in their abilities says things like this.
 
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