Question about testo prop and BP

[ganciodestro]

Hi guys, two questions. First: I’m currently using Test Prop ED (testosterone propionate every day), but I’ve noticed that it sometimes causes crazy PIP (post-injection pain) in every site except the glutes. I’m using insulin syringes and can’t figure out how to fix it. For now, I’m alternating only between the glutes, left and right. But do you think I can really keep going like this? I’m injecting 50 mg every day. My quads are untouchable, shoulders too, and lats as well — I don’t know what to do…

Second question: could blood pressure increase from using a higher total amount (of testosterone), even if I keep water retention and estrogen under control?

 

[zmurphy]

How long are the insulin needles you're using? I get pip from Prop if its not deep enough. Mix it with another compound or dilute it to a lower concentration, but its part of the game with Prop.

Yes, your BP can and prolly will go up with higher androgen load. 350mg a week isn't nothing.

 

[BabaJagga]

i would bet that you are not injecting deep enough. im fairly lean on side delts and 30G x 1/2" is borderline shallow IM i would say.

for glutes its for sure subq.

 

[ganciodestro]

This is syringe I use.. I buy them like that because i need microdosing my hcg 0,3 ui, is not deep enough?

 

[trtchin]

You need at least a half inch (12.7 mm) to get IM in a lean spot like shoulders. Need longer for glutes IMO.

 

[BabaJagga]

This is syringe I use.. I buy them like that because i need microdosing my hcg 0,3 ui, is not deep enough?

for sure not.
30G x 1/2" needles are borlerline for super lean spots.

3/4" - 1" (20-25mm) for normal, IM shots.
you dont need super thick needles, just longer ones.

 

[ganciodestro]

Thank guy, so these should be ok for Shoulder?

 

[BabaJagga]

Thank guy, so these should be ok for Shoulder?

yes. but you can buy syringes and needles separately. 1ml syringes without deadspace for example and different needle size/lenght for different muscles.
also, you will have sharper needle, fresh one. not like this, after drawing oil with it

 

[Photon]

Thank guy, so these should be ok for Shoulder?

Can you get better brands?
Not those from Amazon.

Not sure what brands are available in your country.
BD, Nipro, Excel or EasyTouch?

 

[ganciodestro]

Can you get better brands?
Not those from Amazon.

Not sure what brands are available in your country.
BD, Nipro, Excel or EasyTouch?

Actually i dont know, i always bought them on amazon, before i bought on pharmacy but not it doesnt sell them anymore..
i cant find them in Amazon ?

 

[ganciodestro]

yes. but you can buy syringes and needles separately. 1ml syringes without deadspace for example and different needle size/lenght for different muscles.
also, you will have sharper needle, fresh one. not like this, after drawing oil with it

Very good, i can also find it on amazon?

 

[ganciodestro]

I could buy these two?

 

[BabaJagga]

I could buy these two?

yes. search also for
27G x 3/4"
25G x 1"

that should cover you for pretty much every muscle you will be injecting.

 

[Photon]

I could buy these two?

I'm not sure what brands are avail in your country.
I'd avoid random no name china brands, the needles suck and will give u pip.
You can try googling or asking around on this board.

 

[120nmol]

32g 13mm - shoulder quads ..
30g 24mm - glutes..

 

[Sampei]

I could buy these two?

Why the fuck are you buying from amazon when you have a thousand website in your country to buy proper brands like BD or Nipro or PIC

 

[Laxman3221]

Hi guys, two questions. First: I’m currently using Test Prop ED (testosterone propionate every day), but I’ve noticed that it sometimes causes crazy PIP (post-injection pain) in every site except the glutes. I’m using insulin syringes and can’t figure out how to fix it. For now, I’m alternating only between the glutes, left and right. But do you think I can really keep going like this? I’m injecting 50 mg every day. My quads are untouchable, shoulders too, and lats as well — I don’t know what to do…

Second question: could blood pressure increase from using a higher total amount (of testosterone), even if I keep water retention and estrogen under control?

I had the PIP in the ass from prop until I switched to 1.25 inch 27g needles. if I get it now it's like a 1 on a 10 scale.

I was using 27G slin needles 1/2 inch. would get 5/10 pip and hard lumps.

Also, some UGLS are better than others.

 

[Eddie.]

This is syringe I use.. I buy them like that because i need microdosing my hcg 0,3 ui, is not deep enough?

How can this be deep enough dude? You ain't hitting any muscle with these whatsoever, even if you're 5% bodyfat. Who told you to shoot with these? They're not good even for subcutaneous injections with oils, these are only for peptides. Get some long needles and pin it deep in the muscle.

 

[BabaJagga]

Who told you to shoot with these?

ive seen some clip of that idiot todd lee sayin thats proper syringe & needle for gear.
if you cant reach muscle with it, you are just too fat.

yea, sure.

 

[Eddie.]

ive seen some clip of that idiot todd lee sayin thats proper syringe & needle for gear.
if you cant reach muscle with it, you are just too fat.

yea, sure.

Next step, rub the oil in your skin and if it doesn't get absorbed you're just too dirty haha

It's a good thing to not use thick needles but for IM it's better when they're long. Those 1 inch 30G someone posted above are great but i haven't seen em anywhere in my country.

I don't mind pushing for 10 seconds more but using 8mm for IM it's just ridiculous. These maybe can't even reach the subc fat properly, there's a chance he's shooting it in the thick layer of skin. I've read that the top part of the skin can be up to 4mm.